Oren Cass, Founder and Chief Economist of American Compass and editor of The New Conservatives: Restoring America's Commitment to Family, Community, and Industry, returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Oren discuss the evolution of the conservative movement since the 2016 election, the fifth anniversary of American Compass, and the organization's new volume covering the new right's perspective on trade, immigration, labor, family, industry policy, technology, and more...

Jeff Hauser, Founder and Executive Director of the Revolving Door Project & Paul E. Williams, Founder and Executive Director of the Center for Public Enterprise, join The Realignment's first-ever debate episode. In this conversation, Marshall moderates a conversation/debate between Jeff and Paul on the pros and cons of the abundance agenda. The discussion explores whether building more housing, energy, and infrastructure is compatible with critiques of corporate power and the status quo, the origins of abundance, the differences between left, right, and centrist abundance, tensions between the national and local abundance discourse, and points of agreement.

Nancy Scola, Contributing Writer at Politico Magazine, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Nancy discuss the varied factors that determine which new ideas win out in Washington, the role of the mainstream and alternative media ecosystems in shaping politics and policy, the case study of former Federal Trade Commission Chair Lina Khan and the revival of the antitrust movement, and which ideas are on the rise in Washington six months into the second Trump administration.

Back from paternity leave, Saagar Enjeti returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Saagar discuss the aftermath of U.S.-Israeli airstrikes on Iran's nuclear program, how the operation compares to previous interventions, why the non-interventionist MAGA faction lost to interventionists, why alternative media's policy influence relative to its popularity was overstated, and the future of nuclear non-proliferation.

Last week, Marshall interviewed Abundance co-author Derek Thompson and Representative Jake Auchincloss at WelcomeFest 2025. Marshall, Derek, and Jake's panel focused on the abundance agenda's place in debates about the future of the Democratic Party, the center-left's lack of a defining vision in contrast to the populist left and right's clarity, their reaction to polls indicating populism polls stronger than abundance, the importance of "telling stories" vs. articulating plans for the country, and the need to expand the abundance agenda debate beyond housing to the role of technology and progress in America.

Steve Teles, Niskanen Center Senior Fellow and Johns Hopkins University professor, returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Steve discuss Ezra Klein's shout-out to The Realignment in the New York Times, Marshall's experiences debating the abundance agenda on Breaking Points and interviewing The Atlantic's Derek Thompson and Rep. Jake Auchincloss at Welcome Fest, whether factional fights vs. friendly conciliation is the best way to advance abundance arguments, and more...

Steve Teles, Johns Hopkins University Professor and Niskanen Center Senior Fellow, returns to The Realignment. Steve and Marshall discuss new polling that that indicates voters, especially Democrats, prepare populist economic messaging to the "bottlenecks"-focused abundance agenda, why abundance and populism are complimentary, not oppositional, the dangers of over-focusing on polls (whether you're pro or anti abundance), and how the abundance agenda could address higher education challenges.

Historians Gary Gerstle and Noam Maggor, organizers of the Beyond Neoliberalism conference, join The Realignment. Marshall, Noam, and Gary discuss the origins and aims of their conference, why conversations about post-neoliberalism aren't just about wonky, academic jargon, the rise and fall of the New Deal and Neoliberal political orders, why 1990s neoliberal thinking no longer helps us think through today's challenges, the false starts and stops of the post-2016 realignment era, and what a post-neoliberal political order could look like.

Ian Fletcher, co-author of Industrial Policy for the United States: Winning the Competition for Good Jobs and High-Value Industries, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Ian discuss what industrial policy actually means and why it includes trade policy, the rise and fall of free trade orthodoxy, what went right and wrong with Trump and Biden's industrial policy strategies, why "Liberation Day" isn't enough to reindustrialize America, and which industries and technologies the U.S. should focus its attention on.

Steve Teles, Niskanen Center Senior Fellow and Johns Hopkins University professor, returns to The Realignment. Marshall and Steve discuss the abundance agenda's future prospects, takeaways from the book tour, the left populist response to abundance, the differences between Steve's "captured economy" thesis and left concerns that abundance is too disinterested in corporate power and big money, and the prospects for right-wing, "dark abundance," during and after the Trump administration.

Mark K. Updegrove, President and CEO of the LBJ Foundation, former Director of the LBJ Library and Museum, and author of Make Your Mark: Lessons in Character from Seven Presidents, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Mark discuss the relationship between character, leadership, and greatness in the American presidency, the case for not approaching politicians cynically, the personal stories behind Barack Obama, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, and other late 20th century presidents, any why even flawed leaders leave behind admirable traits worth learning from.

John Cassidy, New Yorker Staff Writer and author of Capitalism and Its Critics: A History from the Industrial Revolution to AI, joins The Realignment. Marshall and John discuss the rise of anti-capitalist sentiment on the left and right, from President Trump's economic nationalism to the democratic socialism of Senator Bernie Sanders, the missed opportunities of the globalization era, the failures of trade policy, the coming AI disruption, and tensions between tech and democracy.

Elizabeth Wilkins, President and CEO of the Roosevelt Institute and alumn of the White House and Lina Khan's Federal Trade Commission, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Elizabeth discuss why the left has reacted critically to the abundance agenda, her agreement with Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson's emphasis on enhancing state capacity, and how to restore faith in government. They explore the tension between technocratic fixes and populist demands, the need for effective political storytelling, and why "small," tangible wins like banning junk fees and non-competes matter as much as big legislative wins.

John B. King, former Secretary of Education and author of Teacher By Teacher: The People Who Change Our Lives, joins The Realignment. Marshall and John discuss President Trump's plan to abolish the Department of Education, balancing the role of states and the federal government's role in K-12 schooling, why the education debates of the 2000s and 2010s (charters, reform, NCLB) stalled, the case for and against accountability, and the post-COVID education cultural wars.

Chris Hughes, Co-Founder of Facebook, Chairman of the Economic Security Project, and author of Marketcrafters: The 100-Year Struggle to Shape the American Economy, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Chris discuss the false dichotomy of the "market" vs. "government" when it comes to developing America's economy and critical industries, the need for government to "marketcraft" the economy to achieve the country's social and political goals, the history of marketcrafting from the New Deal and World War II to the auto industry in the 1980s and semiconductors + clean energy in the 2020s,

Rush Doshi, C.V. Starr senior fellow for Asia studies and director of the China Strategy Initiative at the Council on Foreign Relations joins for the first episode of the Endless Frontiers podcast. Rush and Endless Frontiers Executive Producer Marshall Kosloff discuss the decade-long goals of Endless Frontiers, America's advantages and disadvantages relative to China in the mid-2020s, the degree to which the national competitiveness conversation can be reduced to our position relative to China, and the need for reindustrialization, defense reform, resilience, and national cohesion in the face of current and emerging challenges.

Krish O'Mara Vignarajah, President and CEO of Global Refuge, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Krish discuss Global Refuge's work with American refugee resettlement, the roots of the global backlash against immigration and refugee resettlement, the case for immigration, how pro-immigration groups should respond to the 2024 election, the role of scarcity in immigration scarcity, and why the post-war consensus around immigration and refugee resettlement broke down.

Rotimi Adeoye, columnist and MSNBC contributor, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Rotimi discuss the takeaways from Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson's Abundance book tour as the abundance agenda picks up steam, the impact of Bernie Sanders and AOC's anti-oligarchy tour, the strengths and weaknesses of the very online attempts to build a Democratic Party equivalent of the GOP's 2010s Tea Party movement, and the difficulties of navigating immigration politics during an era of anti-establishment backlash.

Richard D. Kahlenberg, author of Class Matters: The Fight to Get Beyond Race Preferences, Reduce Inequality, and Build Real Diversity at America’s Colleges and Director of the American Identity Project at the Progressive Policy Institute, returns to The Realignment. Richard and Marshall discuss the future of higher education after the Supreme Court ended race-based affirmative action, why America's "river of power" runs through the Ivy League, tensions between class-based affirmative action and differing visions of "merit," higher education's response to the Trump administration's attacks, and the role of public, non-elite institutions in promoting economic opportunity.

Mallory McMorrow, Michigan State Senator and author of Hate Won't Win: Find Your Power and Leave This Place Better Than You Found It, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Mallory discuss Michigan's role in American politics in 2024 and beyond, the Abundance Agenda and the centrality of the affordability crisis and government failure for voters, her viral 2022 speech, the end of traditional and 2010s digital media's ability to gatekeep, the differing experiences of Millennials and Gen Z, the rising gender gap between young men and women, and how Democrats should respond to culture war issues.