In this episode of Pivot Playbook, Kelly Riley welcomes industrial designer and serial career pivoter Brett Hooper. From teaching at Carleton University to designing autonomous vehicles, tanks, and luxury products, Brett shares how he navigated major career shifts without fear or a plan. Learn how he turned creative passion into a multi-decade career, why he believes personality outshines raw talent, and how embracing uncertainty led to the most fulfilling work of his life. Brett’s story is packed with actionable insights, laughs, and inspiration for anyone thinking about making a bold move. Plus, hear his thoughts on staying creative and why he believes happiness happens in the doing. Tune in and get ready to rethink what success really means!
Main Topics + Timestamps:
(00:30) Meet Brett Hooper: Barber Shop Memories and Lifelong Client
(01:13) Becoming an Industrial Designer: From Animation Dreams to Design Reality
(04:01) Career Timeline: Freelance Graphics to Gourmet Food to Academia
(08:21) The First Big Quit: No Plan, No Backup, No Regrets
(12:20) What Drives Brett: Boredom, Creativity, and Gut Instinct
(16:00) Handling Uncertainty and Fear During Pivots
(24:51) Personality vs. Talent: Why Charm Matters More Than You Think
(26:54) Wild Projects: Tanks, Autonomous Vehicles, and More
(43:37) Advice for Pivoting: Why Courage is Just Action Under Fear
(49:38) Future Plans: Teaching, Side Hustles, and Continuing to Surprise Himself
About Brett Hooper:
Brett Hooper is a seasoned industrial designer with 26+ years of experience across industries including automotive, defense, and consumer products. A former professor at Carleton University, he has designed everything from tanks and delivery vehicles to luxury speakers. His work has helped shape iconic brands and groundbreaking innovations.
Learn more at Studio63.ca
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Check out his website: https://bretthooper.com/
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Episode Overview
In this episode, I sit down with Patrice Bobo-Miles, a former mortgage loan originator who spent 26 successful years in a high-pressure career—only to realize she was burning out.
Patrice shares how family tragedies forced her to reevaluate her life, walk away from a lucrative job, and ultimately discover a new path as a life coach. Now, she’s found the peace and purpose she didn’t even realize she was missing. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or curious about making a big change, Patrice’s story is sure to inspire you to make your own breakthrough.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode
1. Life-Changing Loss & the Wake-Up Call
• How Patrice navigated the sudden illnesses and passing of both parents in under a year
• Why her grief pushed her to pause and reexamine everything
2. High-Pressure Career Realities
• The hidden toll of being “always on” in the mortgage industry
• How burnout can creep in—even if you’re successful and passionate at first
3. The Moment of Truth
• Patrice’s conversation with her husband about leaving a thriving career
• Overcoming fears of lost income and redefining success on her own terms
4. Building a New Life & Business
• Finding confidence and fighting off imposter syndrome in a new profession
• How her personal coaching and therapy support system helped her unlock clarity
• The exciting projects she’s launched since pivoting—like her women’s summit and an affirmations journal
5. Advice for Pivots & Reinvention
• Why setting boundaries, betting on yourself, and asking for help are non-negotiables
• Seeing “mistakes” as a chance to grow stronger and more aligned with who you truly are
Notable Quotes
• “I really felt like that circus act where you have 12 plates spinning—you sprint to keep them from crashing.”
(Patrice on her hectic life in the mortgage industry)
• “There was a moment when I asked myself, ‘Why not me? Why can’t I do this?’”
(Patrice on finally taking the leap into life coaching)
• “If you’re not willing to bet on yourself, why would anyone else?”
(Patrice on the importance of self-belief and personal investment)
Connect with Patrice Bobo-Miles
• Website: MilesAheadLifeCoaching.com
• Facebook: @PatriceBoboMiles
• Social-Audio Apps: Clubhouse & Chatter (search for her rooms/clubs under “EmpowHer'd”)
• Podcast: Funny Sexy Wise (available wherever you listen to podcasts)
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• Follow Me (Kelly) on Instagram: @coachkellyriley
• Share Your Pivot Story: Have you faced a major career or life pivot? Email me at podcast@kellyriley.ca to let me know how you’re overcoming burnout and finding new purpose.
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Thanks for listening!
Tune in next time for more authentic conversations about career pivots, personal growth, and finding the spark beyond burnout. Remember, it’s never too late to redefine success on your own terms.
What happens when you leave behind the safe path and follow your dreams?
Kelly Riley sits down with Sophie Fortier, a wedding photographer and creative entrepreneur, to discuss her daring pivot from a restrictive corporate career to a life of freedom and artistry. Sophie details her methodical preparation, the courage it took to leave her job earlier than planned, and the lessons she’s learned about rest, balance, and trusting the process. Now thriving as a destination wedding photographer and avid traveler, Sophie shares insights into navigating fear, building confidence, and creating a life aligned with your passions.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone contemplating a major life change or seeking inspiration to pursue their dreams.
Main Topics & Timestamps
About Sophie Fortier
Sophie Fortier is an internationally recognized wedding and branding photographer based in Canada. Known for her artistic eye and vibrant storytelling, Sophie travels the world capturing life’s most cherished moments. When she’s not behind the lens, Sophie shares her travel adventures through her Instagram account, @ChasingGildedSkies, and is a passionate advocate for living boldly and creatively.
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In this engaging conversation, Amanda Yoa, known as Philly's hype woman, shares her inspiring journey of personal growth and transformation. From battling depression and anxiety to embracing her authentic self, Amanda discusses the pivotal moments that led her to become a successful brand strategist and podcaster. She emphasizes the importance of community, authenticity, and self-investment in achieving personal and professional goals. Amanda's story serves as a powerful reminder that embracing change, even when it's scary, can lead to a fulfilling and impactful life.
In this conversation, Kelly Riley interviews Michelle Glockling, who shares her inspiring journey of pivoting from a decade-long career in healthcare to starting her own bookkeeping business. Michelle discusses the challenges she faced during this transition, the importance of networking, and how she found freedom and fulfillment in her new role. She emphasizes the significance of building trust with clients, the value of community support, and the lessons learned along the way. Michelle encourages others to embrace change, pursue their passions, and not be afraid to make mistakes as they navigate their own paths.
Ever wonder what it takes to make a significant change in life? Join us as we explore the journeys of those who’ve stepped out of their comfort zones to follow their passions.