In this powerful episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with one of Canada’s top agents, Michael McDougall. They unpack what truly sets elite Realtors apart — and it’s not what you might think. From navigating tough markets to mastering your mindset, Michael shares raw insights, real-world stories, and the psychology behind consistent high performance. Whether you’re new to real estate or a seasoned pro, this conversation is packed with the kind of perspective that moves the needle.

What You’ll Learn:

• How to thrive when others pull back
• Why mindset outweighs market mechanics
• The habits and thinking that fuel long-term success
• Michael’s honest take on leadership, legacy, and showing up daily

Tune in and get ready to shift how you think — and how you succeed.

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In this heartfelt episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with East Coast powerhouse Mike Espiritu—Realtor, coach, and conduit of transformation—to unpack how empathy, storytelling, and language can redefine the client experience. From growing up with housing insecurity to becoming a top-producing agent and certified trainer under Phil M. Jones, Mike shares how he uses emotional intelligence, powerful questions, and authentic connections to not just sell homes—but to deeply impact lives.

Whether you’re a seasoned agent feeling the industry shift or someone striving to lead with heart, this conversation will remind you what truly matters in real estate—and in life.

🧲 “Make it their idea.” The most powerful sales move isn’t persuasion—it’s helping people discover their own clarity.
🧠 Empathy isn’t optional. In a world of automation, what wins is connection.
📦 Listing packages don’t win clients—your listening does.
🏡 Real estate isn’t about properties—it’s about permanence and peace of mind.
🗣️ The right words build trust, and trust converts.
🧩 Every story matters. Your past isn’t a weakness—it’s your superpower.
💬 “What happened?”  “What’s wrong?” The questions you ask can transform relationships.
📚 From cereal-box mazes to fridge magnets, Mike’s journey reminds us why we started.

Sound Bites:
🎙️ “Empathy can’t be faked.”
🎙️ “Don’t flex your stats—flex your care.”
🎙️ “You can’t automate trust.”

Connect with  Mike Espiritu
1-506-232-7653
mikeespiritu@kw.com

https://theconduitculture.com

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In this episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we sit down with sales legend Phil M. Jones to explore how the right words, asked the right way, can completely change your real estate conversations. From guiding hesitant buyers through tough decisions to helping agents build trust and clarity, Phil drops powerful, real-world scripts and mindset shifts. Whether you’re a Realtor, leader, or someone who just wants to communicate better—this one’s packed with gold.

1. 🧠 Clarity sells — People don’t buy when they’re confused; great questions create clarity.
2. 💬 “The way I see it…” is a magic phrase to guide tough decisions without pressure.
3. 🏡 Buying a home isn’t just financial—it’s about the future you’ll be grateful for.
4. 🚫 Avoid “hustle language”; instead, make it easy for clients to say yes.
5. 🎯 The best salespeople aren’t pushy—they’re helpful and intentional.
6. ❓ “What happens if you do nothing?” — a game-changing way to spark urgency.
7. 🔄 Repeat objections in your own words to show you’re listening, not just selling.
8. 💡 Scripted doesn’t mean robotic—it means being ready for real moments.
9. 🧩 Every “no” might just be missing information—ask again, differently.
10. 🤝 Trust is built when people feel understood, not just talked at.

Sound Bites:

1. “Clarity is what converts.”
2. “The words you choose, matter most.”
3. “Don’t sell—guide the decision.”

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✨ Episode Description:

In this special episode of The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, we take you inside the electric atmosphere of the KW Canada Gala 2024! 🏆🇨🇦

We sat down with award-winning Keller Williams agents from across the country to uncover the stories behind their success. From game-changing strategies to personal breakthroughs, this episode is packed with raw insight, inspiration, and real estate wisdom you won’t hear anywhere else.

🎧 In this episode, you’ll hear:

• What it takes to thrive in today’s real estate market
• How top agents stay motivated and focused
• Powerful advice for new and seasoned professionals alike
• Unfiltered moments and behind-the-scenes reflections from the Gala

Whether you’re an agent looking to level up or a fan of great success stories, this episode will leave you fired up and ready to grow 💥

🛎️ Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review — it helps us reach more amazing listeners like you!

#KWCanada #RealEstatePodcast #KWGala2024 #RealtorLife #NotSoBlackAndWhitePodcast #TopAgents

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In this episode of the Not So Black & White Real Estate Podcast, hosts Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan sit down with Justin Jeffery, a top real estate team leader in Canada, to talk about his personal journey through burnout and how he rebuilt his leadership approach. Justin shares candid insights on the fast-paced nature of real estate, the mental toll it can take, and the importance of prioritizing health and well-being while striving for success.

Key Takeaways:

 • Justin’s personal experience with burnout: how it happened and how he recovered
 • Recognizing early signs of burnout in high-performance careers
 • The importance of self-care and mental health in real estate
 • Leadership strategies for building successful, motivated teams
 • Tips on delegation, focusing on long-term goals, and creating a culture of balance

Guest:

 • Justin Jeffery: One of Canada’s top real estate team leaders with a focus on sustainable leadership and team success.

Hosts:

 • Sir Colin Campbell
 • Gary A. McGowan

Topics Discussed:

 • Burnout in the real estate industry
 • Leadership challenges and strategies
 • Real estate career advice
 • Building a supportive, balanced team environment

Resources Mentioned:

 • For The Love Of Real Estate Conference – where the episode was recorded live
 • Mental health tips for real estate professionals

Episode Description:

In this episode, we dive deep into the topic of burnout and leadership with one of Canada’s top real estate professionals, Justin Jeffery. Justin shares his personal story of hitting a breaking point during his career, how he rebuilt himself, and what he’s learned about leading a successful team without sacrificing personal well-being. Hosted by Sir Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan, this episode is packed with valuable insights for anyone in the real estate industry, particularly those looking to balance high performance with health and happiness.

Whether you’re a real estate agent, team leader, or business owner, this episode offers essential tips on avoiding burnout, building resilient teams, and leading with purpose.

Tune in now to learn from Justin’s experience and gain actionable strategies to implement in your own career.

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Join hosts Colin Campbell and Gary A. McGowan as they sit down with the inspiring Ana Marin, a successful real estate professional who has made waves in the industry. In this episode, Anna shares her journey from immigrant beginnings to becoming a prominent figure in the Canadian real estate scene.

🚀 Key Topics:

• Ana’s path from operations to leading a successful real estate team.

• The importance of wealth-building and helping others achieve financial success.

• Insights on overcoming challenges and breaking through barriers in the real estate world.

• Ana’s role in the Keller Williams community and her leadership in the Vaughan Investors Club.

• The power of simplicity and scaling processes for success.

Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned real estate professional, this episode offers valuable lessons on leadership, persistence, and creating opportunities for others.

🔔 Don’t forget to subscribe for more insightful episodes!

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In this compelling episode of the No So Black and White Real Estate Podcast, hosts Sir Colin Campbell and Gary McGowan sit down with Adam Pope, a remarkable individual who shares his extraordinary journey from the depths of drug and alcohol addiction to achieving success in the real estate industry. Video Link Adam opens up about his decade-long struggle with addiction, which led him through jails, hospitals, homeless shelters, and detox centres. He recounts how the Canadian healthcare system provided the multiple chances he needed to find his path to recovery. With raw honesty, Adam discusses the turning point that inspired him to pursue a career in real estate while living in a homeless shelter and how he persevered through each challenge. This episode dives into the creation of "Clarity," a Keller Williams community initiative aimed at supporting those affected by substance addiction. Adam explains the importance of providing a broad support network and the vital role of empathy and understanding in recovery. Whether you've been personally touched by addiction or know someone who has, Adam’s story is a powerful reminder of the resilience of the human spirit and the transformative power of second chances. Tune in to learn about:- The impact of addiction on Adam’s life and his inspiring recovery journey- The role of community and healthcare support in overcoming addiction- How "Clarity" provides a supportive network for those affected by substance addiction- Insights on offering grace and support to individuals in recovery 🔔 Subscribe now and leave a rating and review to help us reach more listeners with these impactful stories. 👉 Connect with Adam Pope:- https://apoprealestate.com- https://facebook.com/apoprealestate- https://instagram.com/apoprealestate Join us for an episode filled with hope, inspiration, and the unwavering belief that it’s never too late to change your life. 💪✨ #AddictionRecovery #RealEstateSuccess #InspiringJourney #HomelessToHero #OvercomingAddiction #SecondChances #SupportCommunities #PersonalTransformation #NeverGiveUp #PodcastInterview #AddictionAwareness #RecoveryStories #RealEstatePodcast #LifeAfterAddiction #SuccessAgainstOdds #InspiringStories #HopeAndHealing #CommunitySupport #BattlingAddiction #ResilienceAndRecovery #EmpowermentThroughRecovery #SoberLiving #TransformativeJourney #MentalHealthAwareness #AddictionHelp

This episode is featuring a special conversation with Bill Soteroff, president of Keller Williams Worldwide. Recorded live from a bustling Canadian real estate conference in Mississauga, this episode dives into the transformative world of real estate both globally and within Canada. Video Podcast Bill shares his invaluable insights on the expansive reach of Keller Williams across 57 countries and nearly 20,000 agents, highlighting the cultural impact of real estate on communities and the importance of collaboration over competition in the industry. Through personal anecdotes and thoughtful discussions, Bill explores the intersection of real estate with personal growth and community development, emphasizing the role of realtors in these dynamic processes. Whether you're a seasoned realtor, a new agent, or just a curious listener passionate about the impact of real estate on daily life, this episode offers a deep dive into the nuances of the industry, the power of mentorship, and the vibrant culture of Canadian real estate. Tune in to gain a fresh perspective on how real estate shapes our communities and hear about the future of real estate from one of the leading minds in the industry.

In a dynamic episode recorded at the "For the Love of Real Estate" conference, Jay Papasan offers invaluable insights into achieving success in the real estate industry. Topics covered include his personal career growth, the importance of education and continuous learning, and the power of effective leadership. Jay also discusses his bestselling books like The ONE Thing and The Millionaire Real Estate Agent, which have influenced countless real estate professionals. This episode is a must-listen for anyone aiming to enhance their expertise and success in real estate.   Video Link

Colin and I are coming to you live from Keller Williams Family Reunion, where we had the awesome opportunity to chat with Adam Hergenrother. He's not only an entrepreneur at heart, but also the Founder & CEO of Adam Hergenrother Companies. We dove deep into the topic of leadership and the incredible impact of being a positive example. Just like Adam, I'm a firm believer that focusing on personal growth and leadership lays the foundation for business success. Stay tuned for some golden insights!

Join Colin and Gary as they sit down for an exclusive interview with John Clidy, a prominent top leader within Keller Williams, a renowned real estate company. John, who has recently authored the inspiring book titled "Leaving 6 Figures," shares his invaluable insights and experiences in this captivating discussion. Video Podcast Filmed on location at the highly anticipated Keller Williams Family Reunion, this interview delves deep into the remarkable journey of John Clidy. As a distinguished leader within Keller Williams, John has achieved tremendous success and has chosen to share his expertise with others through his book.   Throughout the conversation, Colin and Gary skillfully extract the wisdom and knowledge that John has accumulated over the years. Discover how John's book, "Leaving 6 Figures," presents a transformative approach to financial success and personal fulfillment. Gain exclusive access to John's strategies, secrets, and unique perspectives on building a thriving career within the real estate industry.   This captivating interview provides an up-close and personal look at John Clidy's remarkable achievements and offers valuable lessons for aspiring real estate professionals. Tune in to witness the enlightening conversation between Colin, Gary, and John, as they discuss the keys to success and the path to reaching new heights in your own professional journey.   Don't miss out on this exclusive opportunity to learn from one of Keller Williams' top leaders and the insightful author of "Leaving 6 Figures." Gain invaluable insights and inspiration that can propel you towards greater success in your career. Stay tuned for this engaging interview that promises to captivate and empower you.  

Welcome to this exclusive interview with Eric Wainwright, the managing director behind Storeys.com, where we delve into the fascinating origin story and remarkable services of this game-changing platform. We uncover the incredible journey of Storeys.com and its commitment to serving the housing market. From its humble beginnings, Storeys.com has evolved into a leading-edge solution provider, catering to the diverse needs of buyers and sellers alike. Eric's passion for real estate, coupled with his desire to provide an all-encompassing platform, propelled Storeys.com to the forefront of the industry. Today, Storeys.com offers an unparalleled array of services, transforming the housing market experience. Whether you're a first-time homebuyer embarking on an exciting journey, an experienced investor seeking new opportunities, or a homeowner looking to educate yourself on the latest trends, Storeys.com has got you covered. Beyond traditional real estate services, Storeys.com offers a wealth of invaluable resources. Eric unveils how their informative blog articles, market trends analysis, and expert advice empower buyers and sellers with the knowledge needed to make informed decisions in the dynamic real estate landscape. Join Gary, Colin, and Eric Wainwright as they embark on this enlightening interview, uncovering the captivating story behind Storeys.com and exploring its role as the ultimate hub for all your housing needs. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to our channel to stay tuned for more engaging interviews and insightful content. Let Storeys.com be your trusted guide in navigating the exciting world of real estate.  

In this exclusive interview, Ryan Turnbull takes you on an insightful journey into the world of KW Command, the cutting-edge real estate technology platform developed by Keller Williams.   Ryan understands the crucial role technology plays in maximizing productivity and achieving success in the modern real estate landscape. Join us as we dive deep into the powerful features and capabilities of KW Command, showcasing how this innovative platform can revolutionize your business. Whether you're a new agent looking to streamline your processes or an experienced professional seeking to leverage technology to gain a competitive edge, Ryan's expertise and comprehensive walkthrough of KW Command will provide you with invaluable insights and strategies to elevate your real estate game.  

Join Colin Campbell and Gary McGowan at the Buzz Conference as they invite Daryl King, the esteemed Toronto realtor, for an exclusive interview on The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast. Discover the remarkable journey of Daryl King, from humble beginnings to becoming an unparalleled force in the Canadian real estate industry. Prepare to be inspired as they delve into his captivating story of triumph and uncover the invaluable lessons that propelled him to the pinnacle of success. Tune in now to gain insights from one of Canada's top realtors!   https://www.realtychatter.com/post/from-humble-beginnings-to-real-estate-greatness-unveiling-the-journey-of-daryl-king  

Wendy Papasan, who runs the Papasan Properties Group and is the chairman of Her Best Life, a business that supports and amplifies women in business, shares her journey of building a community of like-minded businesswomen. After joining Entrepreneurs Organization (EO) and realizing there were only ten women out of 150 members, Wendy started her own circle with ten other female business owners. They met every six months in amazing locations and eventually turned their community into a profitable business, Her Best Life. Wendy emphasizes the importance of finding the right people to surround yourself with in business and solving a problem to create a successful product.   Video Interview  

We interview one of Canada's Leading real estate professional Richard Silver !!! Richard is 43 year real estate veteran who calls himself the ultimate early adopter and has jumped right into the world of AI and how it can benefit the industry.   Leading Silver Burtnick & Associates at Sotheby's International Realty Canada, Richard is designated as an ABR, e-PRO and a Certified International Property Specialist (CIPS). A past Director-at-Large for the Canadian Real Estate Association, and Past-President of the Toronto Real Estate Board. A speaker and writer about the use of "Technology in Real Estate" as well as "The International Real Estate Market", he is founding Past-President of the Asian Real Estate Association of America, Toronto Chapter. Inman News named him one of the "Top 100 Most Influential People in Real Estate for 2013".  

Paul Fitzpatrick, a real estate agent, discusses his decision to switch from running his own independent brokerage to joining Keller Williams. We also dive into the core of the simple statement said by Ed Mylet. The Power Of One, what will one more... do for you and your family.   Video Link   When asked about why KW? Paul mentions he was successful in his own business but felt that something was missing, a peer group of like-minded individuals who had walked the path he was trying to go down. After meeting Andre Chin, who owns KW Brokerage in a neighbouring community, they explored different opportunities offered by Keller Williams, and it resonated with him. Being in the industry for 35 years, he explains that he has this drive inside him that is constantly looking to upgrade where he is. People where knocked on his door saying, "There's a shift in the market coming. What are you going to do?" And that's when he realized that he wasn't done yet. Part of what drove him to KW was the fact that the culture resonated so well with the culture he had developed as an independent.   When asked what distinguishes Keller Williams from everyone else, Paul mentions the culture of sharing and wanting to see everybody succeed and grow. He has been with other brands before, but the founding principle of collaboration and sharing to help each other grow and thrive is what makes KW stand out.   Paul's story highlights the importance of finding a peer group that can help you grow and achieve your goals. It's not just about being successful on your own, but also about finding a community of like-minded individuals who can support you along the way. In the real estate industry, KW's culture of collaboration and sharing has helped many agents achieve their goals and succeed in their careers.    

Welcome to our latest podcast episode featuring Tatiana Londono, a renowned entrepreneur, real estate expert, and philanthropist. In this interview, Tatiana shares her inspiring journey as a female entrepreneur, including how she started her real estate business and how she overcame the challenges that come with building a successful career. We delve into the world of real estate, discussing the current trends, tips on investing, and how to navigate the market. Tatiana also shares her insights on the importance of giving back to the community and her philanthropic efforts. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur, a real estate investor, or just looking for inspiration, this podcast episode has something for everyone. Join us for an insightful conversation with Tatiana Londono. Don't forget to like and subscribe to our channel for more inspiring content. The Not So Black and White Real Estate Podcast is hosted by Sir Colin Campbell and Gary McGowan.    

Welcome to our latest podcast episode where we sit down with Julia Lashay Israel, the Head of Inclusion and Belonging at Keller Williams International. With over 20 years of experience in the field, Israel has trained and coached thousands of real estate professionals and is a well-known community leader and homeownership advocate. In this episode, Julia shares her insights on recognizing and addressing diversity, equity, and inclusion opportunities and challenges across organizations. She provides valuable advice to leaders, team members, and agents on how to create a more inclusive and diverse workplace. Julia is also the co-founder and owner of Refocus University, a real estate training firm focused on career development and diversity. As a licensed real estate broker in Minnesota and Texas, Israel also serves as a managing partner of The Signature Group at Keller Williams Realty Integrity Lakes in Minneapolis. In addition to her extensive experience in the real estate industry, Julia is a founding member and past president of the Twin Cities National Association of Real Estate Brokers. She also serves on the National Association of Realtors Housing Opportunity Committee and the Minnesota Association of Realtors Board of Directors. Join us as we delve deeper into the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace with Julia Lashay Israel.  

Aaron Kaufman on Growing a massive passive income through relationships and a HUGE value proposition. https://www.realtychatter.com/post/unlocking-the-power-of-profit-share In this podcast, Aaron Kaufman from Keller Williams shares his insights on how to attract agents to the company through their amazing value proposition. Aaron Kaufman understands the importance of a strong value proposition and how it can make all the difference in attracting top talent to the company. He dives into the various ways Keller Williams sets itself apart from other real estate franchises, including their emphasis on education and training, culture of collaboration and support, and innovative technology tools. Aaron also shares personal anecdotes about his experience with Keller Williams and how the company's value proposition has helped him grow his business. If you're interested in learning more about how to attract top talent to your real estate company, this podcast is a must listen.