In this episode, Father Michael Trummer and Father Christopher Trummer take on the often-misunderstood topic of religion—a word that many Christians today regard with suspicion. They acknowledge that much of the criticism directed at “being religious” arises from real problems: hypocrisy, self-reliance, transactional love, and an overemphasis on outward appearances. Yet, rather than dismissing religion altogether, the hosts argue that it is a divine reality—instituted by God in the Old Testament, fulfilled and transformed by Christ, and sustained in the life of the Church. They invite listeners to recover a renewed understanding of religion as a virtue: a purified way of relating to God through ordered worship, teaching, and community. 00:00 Introduction and Overview 00:35 Words and Semantics 01:55 Religion vs. Relationship 04:52 Criticisms of Religious Practices 12:36 Self-Reliance and Striving in Faith 28:30 The Virtue of Religion 33:19 Forgotten Passages and Jesus' Jewish Roots 34:15 Old Testament Laws and Christian Practices 37:05 The Early Christian Worship and Eucharist 39:17 Development of Christian Liturgy 45:25 Authority and Hierarchy in the Church 52:58 The Role of Rituals and Symbols in Worship 01:01:42 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Join Fr. Christopher Trummer and Fr. Michael Trummer in a heartfelt discussion on the challenges and importance of boldly preaching the gospel in today's society. In light of recent political violence, including the assassination of conservative speaker Charlie Kirk, the hosts explore what it means to speak the truth, even when it leads to opposition. Drawing from the life of Jesus and various scriptures, they address the balance between being loving and proclaiming the truth. They also share personal experiences and practical advice on overcoming the fear of conflict and rejection. This episode encourages believers to be courageous in their faith and to rely on the Holy Spirit for boldness in standing up for what is right.Support Our Mission through Patreon – patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast00:00 Introduction: The Challenge of Speaking the Truth00:52 The Complexity of Love and Conflict01:46 Temptations and Challenges for Priests02:42 Reflecting on Charlie Kirk's Assassination06:38 Jesus' Teachings on Persecution08:30 Balancing Love and Boldness13:01 The Role of Priests and Parents14:42 The Importance of Moral Teachings18:59 Living Boldly in Faith44:12 Practical Advice for Overcoming Fear51:47 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

In this episode of Normal Christian Life, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer, joined by Mary Bielski, have an inspiring conversation with Sean Smith. Sean shares his journey of discovering the gift of prophecy and how it has profoundly impacted his evangelism efforts. From personal testimonies to practical tips on how to hear God's voice, the discussion covers the importance of the prophetic in today's ministry. They also delve into the current move of God to bring about revival and unity in the church. Listen in to be encouraged and equipped to recognize and act on God's voice in your own life.   00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:55 Sean Smith's Testimony: Early Life and Challenges 06:41 A Life-Changing Encounter with Jesus 10:33 The Power of Prophetic Evangelism 14:49 Practical Examples of Prophetic Evangelism 18:29 Real-Life Stories and Impact 24:11 Discerning God's Voice in Everyday Situations 32:40 The Door to the Spirit Realm 32:59 Evangelism and God's Power Tools 33:35 A Personal Encounter with Prophecy 36:14 The Role of the Holy Spirit 38:09 Prophetic Evangelism in Action 40:47 The Simplicity of Evangelization 46:36 Hearing God's Voice 55:24 A Time of Revival and Harvest 01:01:34 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

In this episode, hosts Fr. Michael, Fr. Christopher, and Mary Bielski are joined by guest Catherine Porter to discuss the often overlooked yet pivotal topic of simplicity and detachment from material possessions in the Christian life. The episode explores how Jesus emphasized simplicity throughout the Gospel and how this principle is intricately tied to our relationship with God. Through personal testimonies, scriptural insights, and theological reflections, the conversation reveals that aligning our hearts with God's will in terms of wealth and possessions is essential for true joy, freedom, and holistic discipleship. Join us as we delve into how living simply not only deepens our intimacy with God but also opens avenues for greater generosity, and ultimately, a more fulfilled and spiritually rich life.

In this especially vulnerable episode, Fr. Michael Trummer, Fr. Christopher Trummer, and Mary Bielski delve into the complex issue of woundedness within the Church. They explore how many people struggle with their faith because of inconsistency and hypocrisy on the part of Christians, whether fellow believers in the pew or priests and other leaders. Acknowledging the hurt and the legitimate anger and indignation, they discuss the need for forgiveness, accountability, and effective communication in healing these wounds. The conversation aims to provide hope and practical steps for those who have been hurt within the Church, so that all of us can cling to Christ through intercession, compassion, and by staying engaged in the community.Support Our Mission through Patreon: patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast

In this inspiring episode, we explore the profound power and authority that believers possess through their faith in Jesus Christ. Special guest Robby Dawkins, a Christian evangelist, shares his story of coming to faith in Christ and discovering the power of the Holy Spirit. He recounts many miraculous testimonies of healing and even a man who was raised from the dead. Robby emphasizes that believers are not waiting on God for power; they already have it and simply need to step into it with confidence. The discussion highlights the importance of obedience to God's call, the role of prophecy, and the radical efficacy of power evangelization. Through personal testimonies and biblical insights, this episode challenges Christians to activate their faith, embrace the supernatural, and become bold witnesses of the Gospel.

After the previous episode on deliverance, clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin returns for a conversation about the intersections of faith, psychology, and inner healing.

In this enlightening episode, Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer welcome clinical psychologist Dr. Sean Tobin to explore the complex topic of deliverance. Dr. Tobin shares his unique journey from atheism to faith, his experience with exorcisms, and how his background in psychology intersects with spiritual healing. They discuss common misconceptions about the demonic, how to properly approach deliverance, and emphasize the importance of relationship with Christ over formulaic solutions. Dr. Tobin also delves into the role of intimate prayer and the healing of memories in achieving spiritual freedom. Tune in for a deep dive into how the power of the gospel and the love of God can set us free.   "Support Our Mission through Patreon patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast"   00:00 Understanding the Demonic: Common Misconceptions 00:46 Introducing Dr. Sean Tobin: A Journey from Atheism to Faith 02:01 Dr. Tobin's Conversion and Early Experiences 04:14 Integrating Faith and Psychology 08:12 Deliverance Through Intimacy with Christ 16:31 The Role of Exorcism and Deliverance Prayers 22:10 A Case Study: Healing Through Inner Prayer 31:44 Balancing Awareness of Spiritual Warfare 38:04 Psychoanalysis and Superstition 39:10 Power of Renunciation Prayers 40:05 Jesus' Encounters on the Road to Jericho 41:21 Command Prayers and Acts of Love 42:34 Jesus' Focus on Identity and Restoration 44:12 Moana and the Power of True Identity 48:49 The Role of Demons and Deliverance 55:50 Healing Through the Gospel 01:04:26 Inner Healing and Memory Prayer 01:16:48 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

We often want God to speak louder and more clearly, but the invitation always for us to draw near to Him, to recognize and appreciate the ways He is already speaking. Following our earlier episode on hearing God's voice, we now dive deeper into this central aspect of prayer. We explore various conditions and postures of the heart and offer practical tips to help you better tune in to God's voice. Discover key elements such as cultivating faith and expectation, maintaining a positive image of God and self, practicing stillness and silence, desiring God's will, engaging in praise and gratitude, and the need for discernment.

In this episode of 'The Normal Christian Life,' hosts Fathers Michael and Father Christopher Trummer, along with guest Laura Shoulders, discuss the common struggle of hearing God's voice. They explore various ways through which God communicates, including through thoughts, imagination, feelings, conscience, and dreams. The conversation emphasizes that everyone is made to hear God's voice and that being attuned to subtle impressions and the conditions that foster a receptive environment are key. They share personal experiences and practical tips on recognizing and interpreting these divine communications.   Support Our Mission through Patreon patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast   00:00 Introduction and Struggles with Hearing God's Voice 00:55 Personal Experiences and Struggles 01:36 Understanding Our Identity in Hearing God's Voice 03:11 Biblical Foundations and Personal Reflections 05:08 The Role of the Holy Spirit and Personal Revelation 06:48 Practical Insights on Hearing God's Voice 11:31 The Subtlety of God's Communication 23:12 Impressions and Conscience as God's Voice 35:13 Understanding God's Patience and Kindness 35:41 Spiritual Senses and Impressions 36:17 Feelings as a Way God Communicates 37:40 Unique Ways God Speaks to Us 38:14 The Broader Context of God's Voice 39:13 Experiencing God Through Feelings 42:00 The Power of Images in Communication 44:27 The Role of Imagination in Spiritual Perception 53:27 God's Communication Through Dreams 01:00:45 Highlighting as a Form of Divine Communication 01:06:56 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

Join hosts Mary Bielski, Fr. Christopher, and Fr. Michael with special guest Laura Shoulders as they delve into the often misunderstood and overlooked gift of prophecy within the Christian community. In this episode of 'The Normal Christian Life,' they discuss the biblical foundations, personal experiences, and misconceptions of prophecy. They aim to demystify what prophecy really means and how it plays a crucial role in edifying and loving others in the contemporary church. Discover how prophecy is not just an Old Testament relic, but a vibrant part of authentic Christianity, designed for the renewal of the church and personal spiritual growth. This episode also provides practical insights and stories that illustrate the transformative power of hearing and sharing God's voice today.   Support Our Mission through Patreon patreon.com/TheNCLPodcast   00:00 Introduction to Prophecy 00:20 Personal Experiences with Prophecy 01:21 Prophecy in the Catholic Church 03:29 Understanding Old Testament Prophets 05:26 The New Covenant and Prophecy 06:48 Prophecy in Modern Times 09:47 Personal Testimonies and Stories 22:26 Prophecy vs. Fortune Telling 26:30 Challenges and Misconceptions 29:23 Evangelization and Prophecy 33:21 Unexpected Encounter with a Buddhist 34:18 Discerning Spirits and Prophetic Gifts 36:26 The Importance of Prophecy in the New Testament 46:09 Personal Stories of Prophecy 49:59 Encouragement to Seek Prophetic Gifts 01:03:35 Closing Thoughts and Prayer

Join Fr. Michael Trummer and Fr. Christopher Trummer in this episode of Normal Christian Life as they explore ways to cultivate the gift of faith. They discuss personal experiences, the importance of community, repentance, and practical steps to strengthen one's faith. The episode emphasizes humility, childlike trust, and the role of spiritual senses in deepening one's relationship with God. Additionally, they introduce their new Patreon account to help support and grow the podcast. Tune in for profound insights and practical tips to enrich your spiritual journey. 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:34 Support Through Patreon 01:36 Impact of Paid Promotions 02:44 Cultivating the Gift of Faith 06:14 The Role of Repentance 08:00 Personal Testimonies and Conversion Stories 12:15 Experiencing God and Developing Spiritual Senses 14:08 The Influence of Sin on Faith 17:46 Faith as a Graced Choice 25:08 The Importance of Community in Faith 31:10 Practicing Faith Through Actions 37:44 Faith and Reason Working Together 39:40 Closing Prayer for the Gift of Faith

Join Fathers Michael and Christopher Trummer in this episode of 'Normal Christian Life' as they explore the fundamental topics of faith and unbelief. They discuss the increasing prevalence of atheism and secularism in the Western world and explore why people are swayed by or struggle with unbelief. Analyzing both rational and non-rational factors including sin, emotional issues, and relational aspects, the hosts offer insights from scripture and tradition. This episode serves as a foundation for understanding the dynamics of belief in contemporary society and sets the stage for their continued discussion on cultivating and deepening one's faith.   00:00 Introduction and Call to Action 00:11 Exploring Faith and Unbelief 01:00 The Mystery of Belief and Unbelief 02:23 Rational Reasons and Other Factors 04:30 Trusting Testimonies and Experiences 08:49 Skepticism Towards Miracles and History 14:19 The Impact of Sin on Belief 26:21 Faith Beyond Feelings 33:15 The Role of Imagery in Christian Art 34:23 Emotional Barriers to Experiencing God 38:09 The Impact of Relationships on Faith 44:37 The Necessity and Cultivation of Faith 55:27 Understanding Faith Beyond Feelings 01:00:51 Faith in Action: Biblical Examples 01:02:40 Overcoming Desolation in Faith 01:05:07 Conclusion and Next Steps

Join Fr. Michael Trummer, Fr. Christopher Trummer, and Mary Bielski in this profound episode of The Normal Christian Life as they explore the concept of redemptive suffering. As we wrap up Lent, they dive into society's attempt to eliminate suffering, using 'The Giver' as an analogy for understanding its significance. They discuss the transformative power of suffering, referencing Viktor Frankl's 'Man's Search for Meaning' and scriptural insights from St. Paul and St. John Paul II. The hosts emphasize how suffering can lead to spiritual growth, deeper relationship with God, and empathy. This episode also discusses exterior opportunities of suffering, such as witnessing faith, building community, and spreading hope. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation on finding purpose and grace in the midst of suffering. 00:00 Introduction to Redemptive Suffering 00:21 The Giver: A False Utopia 01:07 The Meaning of Suffering in Christianity 01:40 Viktor Frankl and Finding Meaning in Suffering 03:31 St. Paul's Teachings on Baptism and Suffering 04:18 Jesus' Approach to Suffering 07:17 Personal Reflections on Suffering 09:52 The Mystery of Suffering and God's Compassion 20:24 The Role of Suffering in Spiritual Growth 31:46 Early Christian Persecution and Suffering 32:21 Embracing Suffering for Spiritual Growth 33:53 Learning Obedience Through Suffering 37:55 The Role of Humility in Suffering 40:09 Suffering as a Path to Maturity 45:37 Exterior Opportunities of Suffering 48:25 The Gift of Suffering and Its Impact 56:31 Concluding Thoughts on Suffering and Faith

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him" (Jn 3:16-17). God "desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:4). Relationship with God is a free gift earned by the perfect saving work of Jesus. God is eager to forgive and show mercy. "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God..." (Eph 2:8).   However, God respects our free will. God will not force us to be in relationship with Him. Like any relationship, we can freely choose to engage and be involved in a relationship, or we can choose to be disengaged. We can be indifferent to God's love. We can be indifferent to God's will. If we are in union with His will and commandments we are in union with Him. One of the ways we abide and remain in relationship with Jesus is through following his commandments: "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love" (Jn 15:9-10). God's commandment to keep the Sabbath holy is now fulfilled by worshipping God on Sunday, the Lord's day. "Do not neglect to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another..." (Heb 10:25).   Matthew 22:1-14 and Luke 14:16–24 talk about how God is like a king throwing a wedding banquet for his Son. In Luke in particular, people have reasons why they aren't able to come to the wedding banquet. No one is forced to come to the wedding banquet. The same is true with the Mass. The Mass is the wedding banquet/celebration of the Lamb. We can accept God's invitation to partake of this amazing and wonderful celebration, but God will not force us to participate. To say no to God's loving invitation is to say to no to Him. To say no to living in communion with God is simply what hell is. So then, is it a big deal to miss Mass? We encourage you to reflect on these passage from Matthew and Luke. Other reasons why attending Sunday (or Saturday evening) Mass is so important!   00:00 Introduction: Is Missing Catholic Mass a Big Deal? 00:31 Addressing Common Objections 01:26 Why Missing Mass is Considered a Serious Offense 02:34 The Importance of Worship and Sacrifice 04:41 God's Commandments and Our Obligations 06:56 The Role of Mass in Our Spiritual Lives 12:48 Legitimate Reasons for Missing Mass 15:55 The Consequences of Missing Mass 21:06 Invitation to Return to Mass

Join Father Michael Trummer and Father Christopher Trummer in this enlightening episode of 'The Normal Christian Life' as they dive deep into the vital relationship between physical health and spiritual well-being. They explore modern obsessions with health and beauty and discuss how physical health can impact emotional and spiritual states. Drawing from personal experiences, biblical references, and their journeys through various health challenges, the Trummer brothers emphasize the importance of taking care of our bodies, not just for the sake of longevity, but to enhance our spiritual lives and better serve God. Whether you're struggling with health issues or seeking a more balanced life, this episode provides unique insights and practical advice on achieving holistic health.   00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:17 The Idol of Physical Health 01:04 Biblical Perspective on Anxiety and Provision 03:19 Modern Obsession with Health and Longevity 04:32 Balancing Health and Spiritual Life 05:42 The Natural Law and Desire to Preserve Life 06:46 Vanity and the Idol of Beauty 09:43 The Role of Wisdom and Immortality 12:16 The Eucharist: The Ultimate Supplement 13:03 Fear of Death and Lifelong Bondage 15:00 Purpose of Good Health: A Life of Love and Virtue 15:49 St. Ignatius' Principle and Foundation 18:10 Redemptive Suffering and Physical Health 24:03 Gluttony and Physical Health 27:08 Personal Testimonies on Health and Spirituality 40:29 The Importance of Reverencing the Body 47:35 Struggling with Body Image and Health 48:09 A Shift in Perspective on Health 48:39 The Intersection of Physical and Mental Health 51:08 Personal Stories of Healing Through Diet 57:45 The Carnivore Diet Experience 01:09:35 Balancing Physical Health and Spiritual Life 01:13:13 Scriptural Insights on Health and Holiness 01:18:56 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Fr. Michael shares what he has learned as a priest hearing confessions.

In this episode of Normal Christian Life, we talk about the significance of silence, especially during the season of Lent. Reflecting on Jesus’ 40 days in the desert and the importance of stillness, this discussion reveals how silence can enhance our spiritual lives, cultivate holiness, and foster a deeper connection with God. Joined by insightful quotes from saints and personal testimonies, this episode offers practical steps for incorporating silence into our daily lives, ensuring that even in a noisy world, we can find moments of divine encounter and peace.   00:00 Introduction to Silence and Lent 00:24 Jesus' 40 Days in the Desert 01:14 Addiction to Noise 02:11 Cultural Challenges and Silence 06:51 Historical Perspectives on Silence 15:51 Personal Experiences with Silence 23:52 The Importance of Silence in Prayer 25:42 Encountering God in Silence 37:58 The Gift of Receiving in Prayer 38:11 The Samaritan Woman and Living Water 38:34 The Challenge of Active Prayer 38:53 The Role of Passivity in Prayer 39:32 Faith and the Efficacy of Prayer 41:13 The Importance of Silence in Prayer 43:33 Quotes on Silence and Prayer 45:32 Personal Experiences with Silent Retreats 48:34 The Role of Silence in Cultivating Holiness 56:42 Practical Tips for Cultivating Silence 01:04:31 The Impact of Silence on Daily Life 01:12:33 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

In this episode of the 'Normal Christian Life,' Frs. Michael and Christopher Trummer and Mary Bielski delve into the essence of worship, emphasizing the importance of worshiping God beyond just music. They share personal experiences and insights into how worship has played a vital role in their spiritual lives. The conversation explores the role of praise and adoration in the Church, the transformative power of expressive worship, and practical ways to incorporate worship into daily life. The episode includes references to Biblical episodes, teachings from the Catechism, and the personal journeys of the speakers with a particular focus on falling deeper in love with God. If you yearn to foster a heart of worship and adoration, this episode provides thoughtful reflections and actionable steps to deepen your prayer life.   00:00 Introduction and Podcast Reminder 00:16 The Importance of Worship Beyond Music 00:28 Personal Journey and Intellectual Pursuit of Faith 00:50 The Role of Worship in Christian Life 01:46 Charismatic Renewal and Emphasis on Worship 02:53 Broader Picture of Worship 03:15 Consumer Mentality in Faith 05:12 Catechism on Adoration and Praise 07:27 Challenges and Misconceptions About Praise 09:19 Joy and Worship in Christian Life 30:04 Scriptural Examples of Worship 36:32 Finding Inspiration in Others 36:55 The Nature of Love and Worship 37:38 God's Preference in Worship 38:30 The Power of Praise and Thanksgiving 39:59 Living a Life of Worship 43:45 Expressing Worship Through Actions 49:36 The Role of the Body in Worship 58:12 Overcoming Barriers to Expressive Worship 01:05:53 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

In this episode of 'The Normal Christian Life,' we delve into the significance of spirit-filled community. Building on a previous discussion about friendship, Father Michael, Father Chris, and Mary Bielski explore how community, distinguished by its larger scale and deeper theological context, plays a crucial role in the Christian journey. The episode highlights personal experiences, the importance of deep, intentional relationships within the church, and the transformative power of unity and community. Key aspects such as prophetic prayer, mutual support, and shared worship are discussed, along with practical ways to foster community both in-person and through technology.   00:00 Introduction to the Episode 00:08 Defining Community vs. Friendship 00:48 Personal Experiences of Community 05:52 The Role of Culture in Community 13:13 Theological Foundations of Community 22:27 Scriptural Insights on Community 25:21 The Importance of Community in Faith 27:10 Theological Differences Between Catholic and Protestant Views 29:46 Taking Responsibility for Each Other 33:04 Challenges and Benefits of Living in Community 43:57 The Role of Technology in Building Community 49:22 Concluding Prayer and Reflections