Karen Lorre studied psychobiology (how the mind affects the body) in college. She has had a lifelong interest in psychobiology, epigenetics, neuroscience, health, and spirituality. She has studied the Science of Mind since 1985, has been meditating consistently since 1991, and has studied the Law of Attraction since 2009.
While still in college, Karen found she had a natural gift for receiving direct communication and downloads from the Infinite Loving Divine and intuitive clarity. Karen is an actress and has done over a thousand hours of TV, films, and commercials. As an actress, Karen observed how when she played different characters, her body would respond in different ways. Karen had some intense emotional and physical challenges that caused her to seek answers.
This led her to discovering ways to transform her fatigue and pain into vibrant energy and chronic pleasure. It led her to become so steadily in love that nothing can stop her. Karen now teaches others how to transform their own emotional and physical fatigue and pain into vibrant energy and chronic pleasure. Karen now lives in chronic pleasure and pure love and has all the energy she needs to do what she wants.
She has no stress; nothing is challenging for her now. Karen’s work has been endorsed by Dr. Deepak Chopra, Dr. Bruce Lipton, Dr. John Jaquish, Gay Hendricks and many more.
If you are interested in having Karen send you her books, you can reach Karen at: karenlorre@me.com.
If you are interested in learning more about grief coaching with Pat Sheveland, go to www.healingfamilygrief.com.
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Hi, everybody. I am so, so super, super, super excited because I get to visit with Karen Lorre today. This is really special. I've known her for, I feel like, a really, really long time, but we've never really connected face to face. I guess this is face-to-face. It would be so cool if it was person-person-to-personto- person physically, but we're not doing that right now. But as many of you know, I'm doing these little fun interviews with people that I've connected through my business coaching program. I know we all are authors and we all have our programs. I don't want to call programs, what we want to bring to the world. It's how we want to bring our open our hearts and just share with the world. And so this is a group of authors, and many of them said, Yeah, I'll raise my hand. I'd love to have you interview me. And then I'm just sharing it across my platforms and hopefully that it just connects for all of you. So, Karen, let me tell you first. Thank you. I am so appreciative of having you here.
Thank you. It feels wonderful to be with you, Pat, and so happy to connect with your wonderful people. Thank you
So let me tell you a little bit about Karen. Okay. So Karen studied psychology.
No. Psychobiology
Oh, it's psychobiology. I'm sorry. My eyes got that wrong. Thank you. Thank you. How the Mind Affects the Body. She did that in college, and she's had a lifelong interest in psychobiology, epigenetics, which I love, neuroscience, health, and spirituality. It's that whole package.
And she studied the science of mind since 1985. Now you would look at her and think, no, she was way too young in 1985 to even be thinking about stuff like this. But this is the beauty of all the work that she does is she just keeps getting younger and younger and younger. And she can teach us all about that. She's been meditating consistently since 1991, and she studied the law of attraction since 2009. So she truly has immersed herself and her whole being is about all of this. While she was still in college, she had a natural gift for receiving direct communication and downloads from the infinite, loving, divine, and intuitive clarity. Karen is an actress and has done over a 1,000 hours of TV films and commercials. One Life to Live? Correct?
You can speak, Karen.
I didn't know that that was the question. Yes, I did One Life to Live for four years, but lots of other shows.
Lots of other things, too. But just for people that are soap opera fans, you may recognize her.
Yeah.
Go ahead sorry
I was just going to say one of the Tinas because there was quite a few.
Tina morphed a bit.
Tina morphed. She had life transformational experiences.
As we all do. Yeah. So as an actress, Karen observed how she enjoyed playing different characters, and she found that her body would respond in different ways. And so she had some pretty intense emotional and physical challenges that caused her to seek answers. And once she starts telling her story and she talks about her books, you absolutely have to read her books because there's so much amazing information. Just hearing her story is not even amazing. It's just so incredible and so deep and just so much there. This led her to discovering ways to transform. She had a lot of challenges with fatigue and pain, and she learned to transform that into what she says, vibrant energy and chronic pleasure. That's what Karen is all about. Before you get to know her, you just start wanting to get into this energy with her. So she now lives in chronic pleasure and pure love, which I know for a fact, and has all the energy she needs to do what she wants. She has no stress. Nothing is challenging for her now. And her work has been endorsed by some of the people that are pretty notable, Dr. Deepak Khopra, Dr. Bruce Lipton, Dr. John Jockish, is that how you say it?
Daquish.
Daquish, Gay Hendrix, and many, many more. She's had a very story life, even outside of her acting career, that she can maybe talk a little bit about. But again, Karen, it's just a joy to have you here and to help you share with whoever's listening throughout all the platforms that were on a little bit about yourself. I guess I would like you to just start, because you are the intuitive. What is it you would really like to share today with us? Let's go down that path a little bit.
Well, I know a lot of people suffer when someone dies or if someone gets hurt or when something happens. I know we have this whole situation going on in America and probably other places in the world where people, like black people who have been persecuted and had had incredible injustice, where they're suffering and where there's some police brutality. Not every policeman is that way, but some policeman are doing that. I know that grief comes from so many different ways. One of the things that I've recognized is that when I had an experience where I lost my father, passed away, my best friend ex boyfriend killed himself, and I got subpoenaed to be in a trial against a church I went to when I was just a teenager, just as for part of a youth group because the minister had been a pedophile and all of the counselors that he hired had been a pedophile. And so all of this conspired. And I was in such a state of grief about my dad and then about Donny who was the man who killed himself that I couldn't function. And I remember people would call me and I'd say, I can't.
Whatever it was, I couldn't make plans. I couldn't commit to anything because I just didn't know how I feel. I had no energy. My body got so weakened. And because of the way I've studied where I've studied Psychobiology, which is how the mind affects the body, epigenetics, and meditation, and a little bit of neuroscience and all these different things. What I started to realize, and because of my experience with acting, where I literally saw the world shift when I was a different character and my body shift when I was a different character. I saw this happen so consistently as an actress because sometimes you're playing one character one week, another character another week, another character another week, then you have a break for a couple of weeks, and then you play another character and every character is different. I would notice how just being a specific type of character, let's say I was playing a character in grief, the world responded to me one way. When I'm playing a character who's happy, the world responded another way. When I play a character who's bitchy, the world responded in another way. I really got that it had nothing to do with the world.
It had to do with what I was emanating in the world. When I was feeling all that grief, I didn't know what I know now, but what ended up happening at a certain point, and I stayed in that grief for probably a decade, and I wanted to kill myself. It was just so debilitating to feel that intense sadness. Then at a certain point, I had the experience of being very intuitive since I remember it since I was in college. It probably happened before, but I didn't pay any attention to it. And I started to perceive the presence of Donny, the ex boyfriend, best friend who had killed himself. And I perceived him and what he explained to me, and I was still sick at the time, I got really sick because the grief that I had experienced, it cannibalized my body. It took away my energy. I got diagnosed with narcolepsy. My adrenals were so depleted that the doctor said he'd never seen worse adrenals in 30 years. My thyroid was off and my hair was thinning and I had to wear glasses to read. I had so many things going on. There was much more than that.
I had chronic pain. All of it was going on. I had now at this point, I'd been married when my dad and when Johnny in the court case, all of that happened right at the beginning of when I got married. We were married for 10 years, but at this point, we were getting divorced. I'm living in a small apartment and I can barely get out of bed, but I'm trying to feel better. When I would be in that place where I would either just be waking up or just be falling asleep, I heard different energies communicating with me, or I felt them. I don't know if it was actually sometimes it's audible and sometimes it's just a knowing and sometimes it's kinesthetic and sometimes it's a vision. One of the things that happened was I kept hearing, Donny, when we had been dating, and this was when I was in my 20s, he had written a song for me that one of the gogoes sang. It was called I Feel the Magic. He had told me he had written it for me. He would sing it to me all the time in real life. While I'm lying in this bed, right between sleep and wake, before I started actually thinking my normal, habitual thoughts of grief, I would hear this song and I didn't understand why I was hearing it until maybe eight or 10 months later when I realized it was a way of Donny to communicate with me.
Johnny was in non-physical and what he was communicating to me was that even though he had killed himself and I had all these ideas that, oh, somebody who kills himself, they're going to be suffering in the afterlife. They're going to be in a lot of pain in the afterlife. I just had imagined him like that. What he said was that that was completely wrong. He actually said that every... And this is very controversial, so forgive me, and it might not sound like a very compassionate thing to say, but he was dead when he was saying it, so I'd hope that I interpreted it correctly. So I'll just say it and then whatever. He said that every death is a suicide. I said, What do you... He said, And everybody, when they die, they go into immediate love and joy and freedom. Let everybody let go of all the physical pain, the mental pain, resentment, fear, grief, sadness, anger, all of that stuff. I remember thinking, Wow, that's amazing. I couldn't believe how his energy was so high and loving and happy. I could feel him literally feel him being proud of me. He would communicate this understanding to me.
When I said to him, but every death is a suicide, what do you mean? What I got was that everybody's making... They might not be conscious of the choice. We have a lot of desires that are unconscious that we're not even aware that we're desiring them. He said that even what's happening is a lot of times people will have some desire. I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to live like this. Oh, this is making me sick. This is sucks. It's sickening what I'm doing, or it's sickening what that person is doing. Then their body listens to that and starts to become that. Johnny said that every single person that has ever passed away has always gone into pure positive joy and that they never have died accidentally. I couldn't believe that since I had so many people in my life that had passed away. I just kept asking him about it. He said, People, they aren't conscious a lot of times of what they're wishing. For example, one of my best friend, she just passed away almost a year ago. She was my age. We looked a lot like people thought we were sisters, but she had an Austrian accent.
She was from Austria. She had a husband that she loved with all her heart, but she knew he was unfaithful. He kept giving her venereal diseases. She had two children that were grown up and that she loved. He worked far away from the... He worked in other countries. He was a director. And so he would be gone for sometimes months at a time. And she would go into anxiety because she knew he was having affairs. And she never... She would ask him to stop it. She asked him to go get help and do all that stuff. And he went, but he didn't get the help he needed. And what she did was she pretended she was fine. But what she would tell me is he makes me so sick. So what happened? She got sick, got extremely sick and she got pancreatic cancer, which is... The pancreas is what takes care of your insulin, which is what you do, what you need when you're eating things that have sweetness and things that don't. Your pancreas monitors the sweetness in your life. And so she was being to the world, fake sweet. And her body was hearing her say, Makes me sick.
I can't stand what he's doing. It's so sickening what he's doing. And she just got weaker and weaker and weaker. And I could see this happening. She would also go awol for months at a time. So I wouldn't always have the ability to communicate with her. But one time when she was going awol before she actually got sick, this is maybe 15 years ago, and she only got sick in the last, like, diet a year ago, and she got sick maybe a year and a half before that. But she... Sorry if I'm talking so long.
No, this is beautiful. Thank you. I'm just mesmerized.
By it. Okay, thank you. So this was maybe 15 years ago, and I was home alone, and I was in that nappy, half nappy, half awake state. And I got this message that I realized was from her dad. I'd never met her dad. He was dead before I ever met her. But I knew it was her dad. And he kept saying to me, tell her I'm proud of her. Tell her she did the right thing. And I was like, what? Tell her I'm proud of her. Tell her she did the right thing. And so I got out of bed and I tried to dial her phone number, but it went. I didn't know it, but she was in Austria. And so it just went to that weird dial that happens when you're dialing in another country and they're not answering and you can't leave a message. So I decide to email her, and this was 15 years ago, so maybe phones are better now. And this was before WhatsApp, or at least before I knew about WhatsApp. Anyway, so I email her and I said, Hey, hey, love. I'll just keep her anonymous since I was talking about her husband and everything.
Hey, love, I think I got a message from your father. And he kept saying, To tell you that he's proud of you, you did the right thing. He's proud of you, you did the right thing. So I don't hear from her. And then the next day, I get a phone call and she's like, Karen. And I'm like, What's going on? And she said, I'm in Austria. And then she tells me the story about how when her father had died, he had given her just two brothers. And there's a brother and his sister had given just her this particular house that had been in the family. And she had always felt guilty about that. So she was in Austria, and she had before, maybe a couple of years before, she had given her brother and her sister to be part of the ownership. And now she found out they'd been doing something that wasn't right, that was going to get her in trouble, something that was potentially illegal or something like that. I don't know the specifics of what it was, but she said that she had just signed the papers to remove them from ownership of the house and she was taking back full ownership and that she was in her hotel room crying on the bed, lying on the bed on her belly and saying, Daddy, please give me a sign.
I'm doing the right thing. I feel so terrible. Give me a sign. I'm doing the right thing. Oh, my God. I feel so terrible. When her father was telling me to tell her, I'm proud of you. You did the right thing. I'm proud of you. You did the right thing. He was answering her prayer. What she said to me was she told me that whole story. Then she said, I got the email and I knew I had done the right thing. And she was so thankful. And she brought me all these flowers when she got back in the States. And we had this really great connection. And what was interesting is that when I was at her funeral last year, I met her family and I had not met them before. I met her brother and her sister and their partners. I told them that story and they all went white. I said, What's going on? And they said, We always thought she was being selfish. We didn't know that she was being advised by her father. I saw them see how their resentment of her had been unnecessary. And that thing where I've picked up the energy of someone who's non physical has happened so many times.
Another time, just one of my clients, I coach people, I help people release unconscious blocks so they can have amazing, priceless results. But one of my clients, her husband had died very suddenly, and she hadn't talked to me too much about it because we'd been dealing with just her specific things. So she hadn't talked to me about him too much. I didn't know much about him, but I was not working with her at the time, but I could feel him and I knew it was him. I don't know how I knew it was him. It's just a knowing. I knew it was him and he was singing the song. I don't know this song actually, but it's Come on Baby, Let the Good Times Roll. I don't know how it goes. Sorry, there's something in my eye. But he was singing this song and he just said, Come on, baby, let the Good Times Roll. And he kept singing just that one line over and over and over again. I was like, I got that he wanted me to tell her that. I texted her and I said, Hey, I got a message from I think it's from your husband.
What did it say? I said, It says, Come on, baby, let the Good Times Roll. And then she doesn't text back for 10 minutes. And then the phone rings and I pick it up and I'm like, Hello? And she's here and it's, Hey. And I said, Yeah, what's up? And she said, My husband and I sing that one line of that song to each other multiple times a day as we would pass each other, if one was sitting down and reading and the other one was walking by, we just touch him to the light on the shoulder, Come on, baby. Let the good times roll. As we're making dinner, Come on, baby. Let the good times roll. As one of us wakes up, Come on, baby. Let the good times roll. It happened so consistently that, of course, if that's his way of communicating with her, that he's alive and well and come on, baby, let the good times roll, that she doesn't have to be because she was struggling with the grief. What I've seen is that if the reason I've been able to contact or be in contact, be receptive, I don't really contact them.
They seem to contact me. But the reason that I've been able to do that is because you have to be in the same frequency as someone who is non physical, like they're like a satellite and you're like the radio station. And if you're on radio, Hey, grief, you cannot hear the station of radio, Hey, love. It's a different frequency. And so you have to turn the dial on your energy in a way to get into a place where you're more in a place of appreciation or love or fun or happiness. That energy is the energy of the people who have passed, even babies, even puppies, even kittens, even horses, anybody, children, grandparents, parents, everybody goes into this place. There's no middle place. There's no... What do people call it where they're dead but they're not dead? Limbo. There's no limbo, none of that. It's just immediate. There's a principle in physics. It's one of the laws of thermodynamics. And the law is energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It can only be transformed or transmuted. I might be saying it slightly wrong, but that's the essence of the...
Exactly right.
Oh, thank you. But yes, that's the essence of that thermodynamic law. And so the energy of me, the energy of you, the energy of the energy of all of us, we have a frequency that is our personality energy, and then we have the frequency of our spirit energy. Those two energies aren't always the same. They might be at two different frequencies, but when someone dies, it's just the energy of their spirit. You still know it's them, but it's the energy of their spirit. Another experience that happened, which is so funny, I was driving and I heard my husband and I were just getting divorced and our dog had passed away a year before because animals take on our negative emotion. And so if you are dealing with grief and you have animals, another reason, besides just wanting to talk to the people that you've lost, another reason to get happy is because it'll make your animals healthier. Because animals are just, they want to support us. They're so amazing. But so our dog had died and I was driving home late and I had a car, like a sports activity vehicle. I had a large back part and I heard a dog running in the back, but I don't have a dog in the car.
I pulled over and I go look in the back of the car and I don't see anything empty. I get back in the car and I haven't started it yet. I'm still parked and I feel the energy of my dog. His name was Ruben and I feel him all over licking my face. Licking my face, licking my face. I'm like, Ruby, oh, my God. I feel so good to see you or feel you. I love you so much. How are you? And then he kept saying to me that I have to call my ex husband because he's going to get a dog and the dog is going to be him. And I'm like, I'm not going to tell him that. I was like, no, he already thinks I'm a wack job. I'm not going to do that. So I kept saying no, no, no. And I go to bed that night and he's still licking me all over. You got to call him. You got to call him. You got to call him. So I wake up in the morning and I'm supposed to go play on the beach with some friends and I hear Ruben, You got to call him.
You got to call him. You got to call him. I'm like, Oh. And so I just like, All right, fine. I pick up the phone and I call my ex husband on a cell phone. He answers the phone and I said, Hi, is this an okay time to interrupt? And he said, Yeah. He goes, I'm just in the car with his daughter. I'm just in the car with her. I said, Oh, that's great. I said, I think I got a message from Ruben. And he's like, What did he say? I said, He said you're going to get a dog and it's going to be him. There's long silence. And then he goes, We're driving to Santa Barbara to pick up a dog. I got off the phone as quick as I could. And so Ruben was right. I needed to call him to let him know that Ruben was coming back, that it was going to be Ruben. And the thing that I've seen over and over again, I had another experience the other day a couple of weeks ago. It was probably before the Coronavirus thing. So it's maybe a couple of months ago. And I was out with somebody that I hadn't known before.
I just had met him and we were talking and he said that his wife had passed away a year ago. And I said, Oh, wow. He said, How are you doing with that? And he said, I miss her every day. And I said, Do you ever feel her presence? And he said, No, not at all. And then I just looked at him and I said, Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, life is but a dream. And he looks at me, his eyes go wide and he says her name was Merrily. And I have a picture of her on my bedside and the frame says Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, life is but a dream. I look at that picture every day and I miss her. He was white. I said, Well, maybe we connected with her. He's like, and he starts crying. It was so beautiful. Then yeah, so that stuff, whether it's dogs or people, I've had it so many times that it's just become these so many stories of that stuff. What I'm trying to say through all of this is that there is no is no death. What we call death is really energy being transformed from physical into a non-physical energy.
That energy of who we are has a signature that is somehow knowable, but it's not the personality of the person in the sense of it doesn't have any of the same resentments, none of the same limiting beliefs, none of the fears, none of the concerns, none of the anger, none of the physical symptoms. It is in a place of total fullness and freedom and wellness. I know this for myself, and I'll just stop talking after this little bit, but when I was in my teens, I was asked to do a modeling job on a sailboat while I had sailed to Hawaii. I know the ocean. I lived on the ocean. I like the ocean. I'm not afraid of the ocean. I feel great in that thing. But they wanted me to do something called spinnaker flying, which I'd never done before. I have weighed most of my life about 108 pounds. It's a gusty day. There's about 40 knots winds, which is a strong wind, in case you don't know knots. I don't know how to do the math of it, so 40 knots, you can look it up. Anyway, it's a big wind. As they're preparing the shot, I'm getting makeup on and I have a bathing suit on.
They're this guy goes up and he weighs probably 280, 290, maybe 300 pounds. He goes up and he's bouncing on this thing. It's basically a spinnaker flying is where you... The spinnaker is really, if you watch a sailboat, it's the sail that's the most balloony. It's like such a balloony, beautiful sail. It's taking the one point is attached to the top of the mast, and then the two points are attached to swing. It creates a triangle. You're in the triangle. He's in this triangle and he's holding on. He's bouncing around. Then he gets off and comes back to the boat and he goes, Oh, man, you're going to love it. It's great. It's a little rough. You got to hold on, but you're going to love it. I said, Okay, great. I get onto the swing and then they let go and maybe I didn't have enough of a hold or maybe I didn't have enough weight. But for whatever reason, the sail, instead of being this way and lofting me up, it went like this. And then it whipped me down onto the ocean from above the mast. And it was a 55 foot mast.
So it was probably like a 60 foot whip onto my back onto the ocean. I couldn't breathe. I got all the wind knocked out of me, swallowed water, and I started to go under. And there was a guy who jumped into the water, but he was afraid because the waves were pretty big to come towards me. So he's trying to throw a lifesaver to me. But we're probably about 30 feet away and the shore is maybe 250 feet away and the boat is again 30 feet away and I don't have any energy, I don't have any air. And so I'm going down and I get down into the water and at a certain point, something shifted and I didn't care. And I was like, Oh, my God. This is so good. And I just was feeling something within me just let go. And then I heard a voice and I felt this voice this beautiful feeling of everything being okay, all is well, so love. And then I hear this or feel this question, do you want to live or are you ready to go? I knew I wanted to live. I was 18. I still had so much I wanted to live.
The minute I had that thought, No, I want to live, this energy came through my body and I shot up. I don't know how much, but it was maybe 12 or 15 feet under the water at the point. I just had been sinking low. I somehow shot up through the water. The guy sees me. He hadn't seen me, I guess, for a few minutes. I froze the lifesaver again and it's still 20 feet away. I don't know how I got to it. I got to it like that. I don't know if I... It felt like I flew over the water, but I don't know exactly what happened. All I know is that I was down there, I made a decision I wanted to live and I got to that lifesaver in a way that I still have no idea how it happened. He pulls the lifesaver in, then he puts me over his thing, climbs up the ladder to the boat, gets me on the boat. They have to pump my stomach first because I swallowed all this water, and then they give me mouth to mouth and I can finally breathe. So I probably was eight or nine minutes without oxygen.
And so that's probably the closest near-death experience I had. But after experiencing Johnny and Rubin and my friend's dad and all these other people, those people who are now non-physical have taught me how to be in an ever-present near-death experience.
I so love this, Karen. Yes, yesterday I interviewed another one that is in our group, Dr. Petra Frese, and she talked about her near-death experiences. And you're telling the same stuff. I mean, it's the same thing that, yes, we have a choice, but once we move to that, it's all light, it's all love, it's all just absolute beautiful that.
Yes. We want to be there. But we have so much to do here. And so to be sharing this, especially for those of you who know me, I work in the grief space. I work with people who are grieving the death of their children and their loved ones. And that's my sole purpose of coming here. And so this will interest you, Karen, is this is in 2012. I had a brother who died before I was born, six years before I was born. No one ever talked about him. It was just not something that was dealt with in the home at the time. But I found out about him and I had this connection with this brother and would go to the cemetery and hang out with him. My family didn't know I did this. I'm sure they would have probably put me away somewhere. They knew that. But in 2012, it would have been his 60th birthday. My mom started allowing me to open up with her and to understand what was going on with her. And she shared about him. But I was on a plane. I was a corporate executive at the time. I was flying in a plane, going to our corporate offices.
And I had this experience where it felt like I had an electrical shock that just went through my body. And this voice, not really a voice, but it sounded like a voice that I was born through you. And I knew immediately it was my brother. And I thought, oh, that's cool. I probably already knew that all these years, but it wasn't like... But there was a deep emotion that came over me. That was so beautiful because it was like, I'm here for a purpose. He left early, but in life, he was just a baby, four months old. But it was just such a beautiful awakening. And that's what I want all of the people who are grieving the death of their loved one, that there is no death. And that's, yes, we need to grieve. Grieving is a part of our healing process. That's part of some of the things that we need to do. But staying in it for any length of time to where we're not finding that joy, we're not having that purpose, we're not having fun and doing all of that. It's almost like a disservice because our loved ones are here.
And so once you can tap in and feel them or to work with a Karen Lorre, who can most likely they're going to connect through her because she's got that vibration. She's got that high vibration where that your loved one can connect is so beautiful. And that's where I see the healing occurs when people are grieving is once they finally get that connection, like that gentleman that you're having dinner with. And it's like the veil opens. So what a beautiful, beautiful... You're just speaking my language. It's just this is... If we could let everybody know that this is what it is. And while we're here, it really is to be about joy and to embrace our bodies and to embrace our lives. Tell people what you do. Now you work with people. Can you just give us a little bit... Talk about the magic that you do working with people.
I help people release unconscious blocks so that they can really have an incredible life. I basically teach people how to live in a way like I do where it's full of love. I can give a couple of different examples of how that works for people in my life. So one client, he had been married for 12 years, and now they were separated. When he was a little boy, he'd been sexually violated and also given drugs when he was four or five years old. He had this scarring, and his marriage he was married to a woman, and his marriage was just fraught with tension and awkwardness and anger and struggle and just a lot of pain because he was harboring things that he didn't even almost consciously remember because he'd been drugged and he was so young. He didn't really understand it, but he knew it had happened just because there was a police report and his parents knew. There was something, but he never been able. He was a psychologist and he'd been to psychiatrists and psychologists and they haven't helped. I help a lot of people that haven't been helped by regular doctors or by psychologists anyway.
I work with him and within a few weeks of working with him, we clear that old trauma from when he's a little kid and he's free. Then he's starting to be happier and he's going to the world and he's connecting with people and having a good time. His wife sees him and they start to reconnect, cut to, Oh, he also had never been able to express himself and he had wanted to be a writer and he'd wanted to be a singer. He'd always felt like he was afraid to be seen. I think when you have that traumatic thing, sometimes it is hard to be seen. We worked on that. Now he's back with his wife. He is recording and putting out videos of recording music, singing, and playing music, and he's writing. H e's got his writing his inflow, and he's got a writing partner, and it's this really wonderful thing. When he got back with his wife, for a minute, his wife was... I wouldn't say minute, but when he first got back with her, she was still operating in the old paradigm. So she was still bringing in that struggle. So on the next session we had after he'd gotten back with her, he tells me about this.
So I give him a couple of things to do. And within that week between that session and the next session, he does the things and his wife transforms. So I never coached his wife. I just coached him and he just became what I did what I suggested and she totally transformed. So now their relationship is joyful and full of appreciation and sexy and fun and playful and a totally different relationship than they've ever had. It's the relationship they both had wanted but never knew how to get to. That's one example. Another guy, he had been captain of a police in a very large Metropolitan area. He'd also been in the Vietnam War. He was older and he had seen his best friend killed right in front of him. So he had a tremendous brief and tremendous PTSD. He'd been involved with the Manson murders. He just had a lot of stuff going on through his whole... He was involved as the police, not in... But he'd been the investigator on the Manson murders and all this stuff, one of them. Anyway, when I meet him, the first session, he's got all this grief, he's got PTSD.
By the end of the first session, the grief was gone. Within a few weeks, two or three more sessions, the PTSD was gone. By the time I'd done... I have a little program that I do a few weeks, depending on what somebody needs, depends on everybody's different. But with him, I think it was nine weeks. By the time we were at the seven week thing, he's like, Karen, I don't know what you're doing to me. I wake up, I'm so happy. I just want to hug everybody. I'm like a fucking Faerie. I don't know what it is. I just feel so good. My friends don't even recognize me anymore. They're making fun of me, but I don't care. I just feel so good. It's great. What was also cool is he had a son who was living with him, who had been living with him for years and who had been in depression since he was a teenager. His son was in his 50s. They'd been there for a while in this depression. He told me about his son on the fifth or sixth session. He'd never even mentioned him. I didn't even know he was there.
When he told me about it, I said, Okay, so tell me how you're handling him. I listened and I said, Okay, would you be willing to try such and such? I tell him what to do and he tries it. The next week he comes to me and he says, You're not going to believe this. I said, What? He said, I'm doing the things you told me to do. I'm just doing the things. I stopped doing the things you told me not to do, and I'm doing only the things you told me to do with regards to my son. I'm with my son. We're at the dinner table. My son goes, Hey, Dad. He goes, I'm feeling a lot better. And my client goes, What do you mean you're feeling better? You're taking different meds? What's going on? And he's like, No, it's not the meds. He goes, I just like, Dad, I'm just seeing you change. I've seen you change. And then the way you're treating me, I just want you to know I have a job interview tomorrow. His dad was like, This is the first job since... I don't know if he ever had a job.
And his dad was like, You got a job interview? And he's like, Yeah, I'm going to go on the job interview and I feel excited about it. His dad, my client, was like, He could not contain himself. He was hugging him and picking him up. It was so cute. He was so excited because... Sorry. He was so excited because this was such a change, and it was no effort for him to do it. Another client, he's been married and he loves his wife, but they hadn't been having sex for a while, and his wife was getting very negative and critical. And so I called him what to do? And he sends me a message three days later. Karen, he goes, I was doing exactly what you said to do. And he goes, this is the scenario. He says, I was with my wife doing what you said to do. She says to me, I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is, it's working. Take my pants off. He said that their relationship has completely changed. He was in a job he didn't like. Now he's in the same job and he loves it and he can't stop loving it and he thinks he doesn't want to leave it anymore.
He just loves it so much. Even though he had hated it for decades or years anyway. I don't know if it's that old, but for a long time since he's had it, he hated it and now he loves it. Their whole marriage has transformed and then he has been getting more abundant. He got a mentor who's the wealthiest guy in his community that came to him and offered to mentor him. This stuff happens over and over and over again. Another one of my clients is in retirement and is disabled, and so they don't have a certain amount of money that was coming to them every month. Then they started having all these great creative ideas, and now they have a huge company that has fought into their ideas. Now, not only are they getting more money, but they're living their life on purpose and feeling like they're contributing in a way that they didn't know how to contribute before. Another person was on the way to getting a dialysis. I don't mean in the car, but like his doctor said, you're going to need a dialysis in the next week or two. Started working with me, and now the last time he went to the doctors this week, the doctor said, No, you don't need it.
The body is so responsive when you start to shift your emotions into a higher zone. Your ability when you are in that higher zone, to connect to those you love. One of the other things that happened was with my dad, he had died in 90, I think in 91, maybe 2000 or something like that. He died somewhere around there. I don't even remember because I was in a fog when he died because that was also when Johnny died. But anyway, so my dad died and I did not perceive him until I started to get into this more place of alignment. Johnny had already been in my life. Johnny was teaching me. I was getting more and more connection with my spirit. I was feeling better. And one night I was writing out things that felt really good for me. I was writing about, I don't remember what it was, but it was something that felt good. I was probably writing for two hours. So when you write and it's something that you're so it's so beautiful to you that you're sobbing while you write it. That's where I was. I'm sobbing and I'm writing. Then I realized it's late, so I'm going to go to bed.
I get up and I go into the bedroom. The minute I go into the bedroom, I feel my dad and I know it's him. The whole room is thick with love and it's his love. And I can feel he's proud of me. And it was so undeniable. It was so helpful. And I could feel there were all these other energies there as well that I didn't know who they were, but they were there as well. But I got my dad and he was saying, I'm so proud of you. Love you so much. I've always loved you. And then he started telling me how proud of all these things that he knew that I was doing that I've been doing since after he died. And then he has stayed with me. So one of the things, my mom, she now doesn't have my dad, and she's in her 80s now, and they were married 43 years. They would have been still married probably, but now he died 20 years ago, more or less. So he suggested to me that I write, that I get everybody that loves my mom, all my relatives, all her friends, people that worked with her, neighbors that knew her, anybody that loves her, to write a letter of what they appreciated about her to her, but send it to me.
I got maybe 40 different people sending this because the word eulogy, it actually means the study of good, the study of good. I had seen somebody use the word eulogy after somebody died. And I had thought, why wait till somebody dies to give them a eulogy? Why wait to study their good after they're dead? Let's do it now. And then my dad gave me that idea. And so then I get all these people's emails, and then I went to a company, I think it's called Blurb, and they made a hard back book, and everybody sent their pictures. I put a picture of my mom on the book, and then I put pictures of everybody that she knows and loves with their letters, everybody's letter in their picture, and then the next letter in the next picture. And so when I was doing it, my heart was so filled up because I'm reading about my mom, things that I didn't even know because some of these people knew her before I was born. Some of these people I had experiences with her that I never had. They knew her at her age. They were peers with her as opposed to being the daughter.
Or they worked with her, which I never saw her at work. So it was so beautiful for me. My vibration and my energy, my love for my mom increased so much. And I realized my dad was doing this as much for me as it was for my mom because now I could love her even more fully. But then I gave the book to my mom. I gave it to my brother. I gave the book to any of the 40 people or so that wanted it. And I have one, too. And so now if she wants to, she can just pick up the book and read somebody talking about something great that she did, or how she changed their life, or what they love about her, and see their picture. It's such a great little thing to do for somebody. I think the company I used was called Blurb. Com. My dad has come in in these ways, and I feel like Johnny comes in all the time. Johnny and my dad are probably who I feel the most, but I feel anybody that dies comes to me. I just want to share this one story, and then I'll go back and let you talk and start talking.
I was home one morning. I was actually in the middle of it. It was like two in the morning, and I woke up and I had so much energy and I thought, I've got to dance. But I didn't want to get out of bed so I had my phone there. I got my phone. Actually, I sleep with my phone in the other room, but I brought my phone in the room and I just started playing dance music on my phone. I'm dancing in the bed, just lying down but dancing, and I'm dancing, dancing, and I can feel all these energies of all these people dancing around me. I don't know who they are, but they're having fun. And what they're saying was, Oh, my God. It's so great to be here. It's so great to be non physical. We all loved each other. We all are here together. It's the perfect way because nobody suffered. It was just bam. And I didn't know what they were talking about. And so I had no idea. And then I go back to sleep eventually. And then I wake up and I'm on Facebook and I see a post that somebody made about somebody who came in and shot a gay nightclub in Florida.
And all of a sudden I started, I went, Oh, my God. And they all were right there. And they were like, Yeah, that was us. It was the perfect way to die. And I'm like, What? And I'm listening to them and they're saying it was the perfect way to die. We're doing what we love. We're with the people we love. We were having so much fun. And then boom, we're out of there and we were all ready to go. And we all wanted to go together. And I didn't tell anybody because I thought this is so politically wrong. But because I don't want anybody to go shoot anybody. That's not what I'm talking about. I want peace in the world. But they weren't suffering. And so this keeps happening when you hear things in the news. I don't really watch the news, but if I hear something like that, I often have felt the person and then I'll hear the news and I go, Oh, that's what it is. And I marvel at how they all want to talk to me. How easy it is to talk to somebody when I live on top of a mountain and people say, Aren't you scared to be here when you're all alone?
And I was like, I'm never alone. People are like, Is COVID hard for you? I'm never alone because I have so much entertainment from non-physicals because they are sexy, they are funny, they're loving, they're playful. They're my teachers, them and dogs.
I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Well, they come to you because your vibration is so high. It's easy to connect. It's so easy to connect. What you're bringing to the physical is how do we raise our vibration so that we can have that beautiful connection. The message that our loved ones, when they transform, transmute, when they go to that next level, non-physical level, they're happy, they're filled with joy, they're in nirvana, they're in the best place possible. That should help us in our hearts. That's such a beautiful gift that you're giving people who are grieving to know that their loved ones are happy and vibrant and always around them. Always.
There's no time that you're not connected to everyone, even people you don't remember or don't even consciously know. There's no time that you're not connected. I want to say one thing is that if you are grieving, you don't have to rush to feel better. It's okay. Where you are is perfect. But there is the possibility of whether it's gradual or whether it's sudden, there's the possibility of feeling better and better. When you get into that spot where you're... Even if you aren't in it consistently, I'm in a really consistent state of love. But even if you're not in it consistently, when you start to feel good, you start noticing things. Oh, there's that bird. That was my dad's favorite bird. And it's right here coming and looking at me and going away and coming and looking at me and going away. When you start to see little things of evidence, one of my friends always told me I was just like his mom. I never had met his mom. And we had been friends. We would see each other every couple of months. We didn't have a whatever. It was just very casual every once in a while.
I had used the screen that pops out from the top. And on the top it formed a heart. I had thought, oh, my God. The universe is romantic me. I hadn't seen my friend for months, a long time. But I kept feeling like, E-mail that to him. E-mail that to him. I was like, Why? I don't want to talk to him. I haven't talked to him. He should talk to me. I don't want to do it. E-mail him. E-mail him with that. So I email him and say, hey, how are you? I just saw this picture and I felt compelled to send it to you. It says the universe... I said, I think the universe is romantic. He pits back. He goes, Karen, do you remember how I told you how much you remind me of my mother? I said, yeah. And he goes, My mom passed away and I'm back east helping my family with all of her stuff. Then I felt her so clearly and I realized she had been telling me to send it to him. I realized it was her and she told me this whole thing about him.
I wrote it in his... Where I have his contact information, I wrote all the stuff he was telling me down. And I didn't want to tell him then because he was in a state of grief and he was trying to handle stuff. But he said after... We just went back and forth and I just told him some basic stuff, not to overwhelm and emergency. I was very gentle. But he said after that, his mom's favorite bug was ladybugs. And they started seeing ladybugs everywhere. They were just like attacking the car thing. And so he was like, Yeah, I think we are seeing her, but we wouldn't have known that it was possible if we hadn't. And so then his whole family asked him to bring some of his mom's stuff to me. So when he came back to town, he brought these things of hers that he gave to me, different clothing and different stuff like that. And it was so beautiful and so sweet. And that law of thermodynamics, I had not looked up that law. And this guy was a Harvard grad, deep, brilliant, really brilliant guy. So we went to dinner after this, several months after that email exchange.
And he says, So, Karen, he goes, You're saying that... He said, He goes, It seems like you have some connection with my mom, but how can that be? How can you when she's dead? How can you? And he goes, I need a scientific answer. I was like, All right. So I just said to her, What should I tell him in my head? And then that's when she said, Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It can only be transmuted or transmuted. And he put it, it was like eating, stops chewing, puts his fork down, and he goes, It's the only answer that could have surprised. Or something like it was in that vein. And I was like, Well, she knew it. I said, I didn't know that. I knew it. I'm sure I learned it, but I didn't have that line memorized. She gave it to me because she knows you, because she loves you.
Wow. I knew that would resonate for him. That was the only answer. Well, Karen, thank you so much. I could sit here and listen to you for days. I would love to have a pajama party with you and just listen to you all night long. That would be so fun.
A pajama party would be so fun.
Would that be fun. Yeah. We'll all have to. Once us authors can all congregate somewhere, we can have a pajama party. So tell everyone the two names of your books, because you have two books, and how people could contact you if they want to.
Okay, this is my second book. It's called Effortless Enchantment, and it's a memoir of magic and magnetism and miracles. It has some of the same stories that I might have told. I told New Ones, too, and it might have New Ones. It definitely has New Ones. That's the second book and it's a memoir. It's a fun book, but the memoir really is about the intersection between my life and spirit. There's a lot of stuff in there about how to get into connection. This book was my first book. It's called Chronic Pleasure and it's about using the law of attraction to transform fatigue and pain into vibrant energy and chronic pleasure. That's basically how I healed my body. I had to fire every doctor that I was working with and fire the psychologists and the psychiatrists because they were meaning well. I knew they cared, but they were keeping me sick, and I ended up working my own intuitive magic, partly guided by Johnny and partly guided by my spirit, that gave me this incredible healing where I no longer have narcole. I live in chronic pleasure. My adrenals are completely healed. My thyroid is balanced.
My hair has grown thicker. My eyesight has improved. My skin has improved. My flexibility has improved. It's crazy all the ways that your body improves when you really get into a state of steady appreciation and love. So if you want either of those books, I'd feel happy to email you either one of them. But what I would ask for you to do is send me an email to Karen, K-a-r-e-n Lorre, L-o-r-r-e@me, like you and me, me and me. Com. karenlorre@me.Com. And if you put in the subject line, your books, and then just put your name in the body of the email, you don't even have to write much, but just say whatever your name is, just so I know. Because some people's emails are like, fy632@gmail. Com or whatever. I was like, I'd like to know something. So yeah, that would be great. And then I feel happy to send you my book. And I just want you to know that the people you love and your spirit never leave you. They're always loving you. They're always improving you. They're always proud of you.
Oh that is so beautiful. So beautiful. And I can attest to your books. I love the audiobook books because I love listening to your voice talking to me. That's wonderful. So, Karen, thank you so much. Like I said, this was just a fun thing for us to get together. I've known Karen for quite a while now, many, many months and have read her books and her work, and it's just so extraordinary. She's got extraordinary stories, but it all comes from... It is all the transformation that has occurred in her life and for her to tap into her spiritual beingness and to be able to use this for anybody who would be interested in working with her. Absolutely. Get with Karen. I think I'm probably going to end up getting with Karen just because you're just amazing. You're beautiful. Just being in your presence just vibrates everything up. I thank you for that. I've just been sitting here just in such a beautiful space and beautiful energy. It comes through the waves, comes through. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Pat. Thank you. I feel so appreciative of you. You're such a good listener. I love the story about your brother, and it feels so perfect that you birthed him through you to benefit the world. I just feel so happy for people that you work with to work with you. You're such a gift and your heart is so pure and you have so much love and you're so fun. Thank you so much for asking me. I feel really blessed to know you and to be part of this.
Thank you, Karen.
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