November 14: The Epstein Fallout, Healthcare Truths, and My Debate With Tony O.

Today we dig deeper into the fallout from the Epstein files, which somehow get darker every time a new page drops. Disturbing references to “Bubba” — Bill Clinton? — and more connections that should embarrass every so-called leader who pretends this was just a “bad friendship.” And honestly, at this point, how anyone can still defend Trump after seeing his name in the emails is beyond comprehension. The excuses are gone. The rot is right there in black and white.

Then I have a conversation with Tony O. — whether I should ever run for office again. I’ve said a thousand times that I want to stay private. But when you see this much corruption, this much cowardice, this much damage… at some point the question becomes: If not us, who? So we debate what it means to step back in — or to help someone else do it.

We also get into a real healthcare debate: Is healthcare a human right, or should we keep pretending the private system works? I know where I stand. Tony pushes back. It’s heated, honest, and exactly what America should be talking about.

Finally, we look at Wayne Gretzky and his attempts to spin away his strange, disastrous relationship with Trump. Even the Great One can’t finesse this one — and watching him try tells you everything about the way powerful people bend themselves into pretzels to avoid saying the obvious truth.

A heavy episode. A needed one. And one that reminds us that silence serves the corrupt — never the people.

🎧 The Nate McMurray Show — The Sound of Niagara.

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