Nicholas Dames https://nicholasdames.org/contact-2/
Inside Out 2 - Nostalgia
Dan Chaon https://danchaon.com/
Olivia Gatwood https://www.oliviagatwood.com/
Kat Rosenfield https://katrosenfield.com
Elif Batuman The Elif Life: A Great Time for Personal Narrative
Recursion, a novel by Blake Crouch
The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, by Jennifer Lynch
Katie Roiphe's Harper's article about incest-related fiction can be accessed here, on my website:
https://www.memoryholepodcast.com/about
A Thousand Acres, by Jane Smiley
Featured in this episode:
Andromeda Romano-Lax
-Andromeda's novel, now in paperback
The Tell by Amy Griffen
Remembering Molly - Immediate and delayed false memory formation after acute MDMA exposure. Kloft, Otgaar, Blokland, Toennes, Ramaekers. Eur Neuropsychopharmacology
The Courage to Heal, as featured in Season 1, Episode 3
Professor Patrick Bray
-Article: Proust and the neurosciences
-According to Marcel Proust: new guidebook focusing on Proust's writing
Fran Mason - 73 Notebooks
Janet Malcolm Still Pictures
Why do people still believe in repressed memories? It's a mystery.
In this episode:
The first detective novel: The Moonstone
Wilkie Collins and the Birth of Amnesia; Nicholas Dames
Sherlock Holmes and Sigmund Freud
Before I go to sleep by SJ Watson
Tell Me A Story; an introduction to Season 2
Memory's misuse in storytelling
I made a second season because I wondered - why, if the recovered memory movement is over, do so many people still believe in repressed memories?
Season 2 is for you if:
-you love books, movies or otherwise escaping into a story
-you think about memory and forgetting
-you think about why we think about what we think about...
-you liked Season 1
-you like learning about debunked beliefs.
Please join me, won't you, once again, in The Memory Hole.
Featuring
Andromeda Romano-Lax
-Her Present Tense Substack, featuring the recent post Do We Care About How Memory Really Works? Amnesia, "useful" unreliability, and the return of the Memory Wars
-Her novel, The Deepest Lake
Kat Rosenfield
-Her Substack
-Her novel, You must remember this
Sources
Jonathan Lethem’s Vintage Book of Amnesia
The Girl on the Train by Paula Hawkins
Repressed memories in film
Welcome back to the Memory Hole.
This trailer features interviews with authors Andromeda Romano-Lax and Kat Rosenfield.
Complete links to guests and sources will be provided in upcoming episode notes at www.memoryholepodcast.com
Show notes for Episode 6:
https://maximumfun.org/about/team/carrie-poppy/
Historian Edward Shorter
From Paralysis to Fatigue; a history of psychosomatic illness in the modern era
Idioms of distress
https://www.brightfutures.org/concerns/culture/cultural-concepts.html
Article in The Cut:
Carrie’s response: The Letters New York Magazine Hasn’t Printed.
Interview 5/23/2023
My Lie; A True Story of False Memory
Forward to the second edition Diana Russell’s book, The Secret Trauma, published in 1999.
https://www.dianarussell.com/the_great_incest_war.html
Cover art collage by Jena Martin, using Solitude by Frederick Leighton 1890
Opening: The Confessions of St. Augustine, AD 401
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3296/3296-h/3296-h.htm
Interviews:
Dr. Henry Otgaar
Interview 9/21/2023
Dr. Sophie Scott
The Brain: 10 things you should know
Interview 9/22/2023
Mentions:
Bart Simpson: Oh boy, time to repress another memory
Dr. Scott mentions the 'Lost in the Mall' study
Context: https://wellcomecollection.org/articles/XQze2hIAAGYP8ckl
Beyond Lost in the Mall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpMhYGPajU
Explaining memories in the movie Inside Out - where they went wrong:
https://theconversation.com/does-pixars-inside-out-show-how-memory-actually-works-43311
Cover art collage featuring Mnemosyne, also titled Lamp of Memory and Ricordanza.
Dante Gabriel Rossetti, 1881.
“We look at the world once,
in childhood. The rest
is memory.”
Louise Gluck
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
This is a bonus episode, to bring you more from my interview conducted on June 28 2023 with Dr. Frederick Crews, Professor Emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley.
If you listened to Episode 4 you heard a lot from him about Freud. But he had lots more to say during our interview and I don’t want to condemn those words to a file on my computer. Plus he doesn’t have a lot of accessible interviews on the internet. I believe his voice needs to be heard.
About the guest:
Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.
Interview, 6/28/2023
Freud: The Making of an Illision
Episode cover art featuring Amalia Freud, Sigmund's mother.
From Freud to Geraldo
Show Notes:
Frederick Crews is a professor emeritus of English at the University of California at Berkeley. His many books include The Critics Bear It Away: American Fiction and the Academy, The Random House Handbook (currently in its sixth edition), and Postmodern Pooh.
Interview, 6/28/2023
Freud: The Making of an Illision
The Freudian Cover Up
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/10040046
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Mark Pendergrast
Interview 6/14/2023
Quotes from Prodigy, early internet chat room, taken from his book Victims of Memory.
His more recent and comprehensive book on this subject is Mind Warp:
https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Warp-Repressed-Arose-Refuses/dp/0942679415
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Ms. Magazine Cover Story - Believe it. Cult ritual abuse exists
The article is unavailable on the Ms. Magazine website archives; a PDF copy can be accessed on the Memory Hole Podcast website, www.memoryholepodcast.com
Reaction to the article: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/All+the+babies+you+can+eat.-a013566129
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Melody Gavigan’s story of retraction appears in Time Magazine, in an article Lias of the Mind from 1993
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,979691,00.html
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Statements from professional organizations disavowing recovered memory therapies:Americal Medical Association
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00207149508409955
American Psychiatric Association https://www.psychiatry.org/getattachment/930fb215-2147-40e9-9d44-f06d84fc64de/Position-2013-Memories-Child-Abuse.pdf
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Decision in the Holly Ramona legal case:
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/14/us/father-who-fought-memory-therapy-wins-damage-suit.html
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Geraldo Rivera, as quoted in The Day Care Ritual Abuse Moral Panic, 2004
-from CNBC 12/12/1995
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The False Memory Syndrome Foundation
War of Remembrance, Philadelphia Magazine, January 1994
Pam Freyd Interview with David Calof in Treating Abuse Today 1994
Clips from the Documentary Making Memories used with permission of Patrick Clancy
Access it here:
False Memories: Remembering What Never Occurred? (TW: Child Sexual Abuse)
Pam Freyd’s article, published anonymously: How Could This Happen? Coping with A False Accusation of Incest and Rape, Jane Doe
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume3/j3_3_3.htm
The Cut chooses Jennifer Freyd
https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html
Rebuttals
https://carriepoppyyes.medium.com/four-letters-new-york-magazine-hasnt-printed-88e08e94db5f
Beware the Incest Survivor Machine, New York Times, Carol Tavris 1993
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html
Cover image collage by Jena Martin featuring the Sphinx from the painting Oedipus and the Sphinx Francois-Xavier Fabre, 1808
The tragic story of Oedipus
https://www.thecollector.com/oedipus-rex-artworks/
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
All quotes come from the 1st Edition of The Courage to Heal; a guide for women survivors of child sexual abuse, 1988
For more audio background about the book, please check out the Conspirituality podcast's two brilliant episodes on this text.
Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/2023
Mark Pendegrast Interview 6/14/2023
Frederick Crews Interview 6/28/2023
The cover image for this episode is of Cassandra (Cassandra. 3307: Bust by Max Klinger, 1857-1920. Hamburger Kunsthalle)
"Have I missed the mark, or, like true archer, do I strike my quarry? Or am I prophet of lies, a babbler from door to door?" (Cassandra. Aeschylus, Agamemnon 1194).
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
Please note: between minutes 3:30-4:56 on some platforms there is a blank space. This was a YouTube clip of an Oprah Winfrey program in 1986, included to demonstrate the pervasiveness of this topic in popular culture. If this is missing in your feed, please accept my apologies. Here is the incident referred to:
In addition to physical abuse, young Winfrey was sexually assaulted by more than one family member when she was just nine years old. She was also molested by a family friend while still a little girl. Oprah shared these traumas with the public very early on in her career. The New York Times reported in 1986 that during an episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show about battered women and incest. She started to cry when a guest talked about her experiences of abuse and sexual assault, asking for a station break and hugging the woman, at which point she revealed her own experiences as a victim and survivor. She later said “For the longest time, I carried this burden around with me and was afraid to tell anybody because I thought it was my fault.”
Prime time movie night Something about Amelia
After school special: Don’t Touch
Rosanne Barr
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/roseanne-barr-incest-156910/
Oprah Winfrey
Meredith Maran Interview 5/23/23
Dan Rather CBS Evening News, March 1988, Television Archive
Playboy magazine comic, quoted from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980
Quotes from: John Money, Wardell Pommeroy, Larry Constantine from The Best Kept Secret, Florence Rush 1980
More about Florence Rush
Love’s Baby Soft Commercial, 1975 “Because innocence is sexier than you think.”
Mark Pendergrast Interview 6/14/23
Laura Pasley https://www.stopbadtherapy.com/retracts/pasley.shtml
Laura Pasley appeared in documentary: Making Memories, from the False Memory Foundation (Patrick Clancy)
Any and all background music from the free YouTube Audio Library
The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
How on earth did I become interested in this topic? That's what this episode is about.
Interview with Meredith Maran, conducted 5/23/2023
You can request a copy of her memoir, My Lie, A True Story of False Memory on her website https://meredithmaran.com/
You can hear an interview she conducted about this book here.
Dead Can Dance
The charm of prostitution: Risky Business
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1017641-risky_business
‘Alternative’ in the 1990s was about more than music.
https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Alternative
Obsession commercials. Are you obsessed? I still am.
More Calvin Klein and the zeitgeist.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/style/ck-one-fragrance-cologne.html
Heather Locklear and viral social concepts
https://www.retroist.com/p/and-they-told-two-friends-how-faberge-organics-shampoo-explained-virality
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The Memory Hole Podcast theme is: A Great Darkness Approaches, Can You Feel It? by ELPHNT
Coming Soon: The Memory Hole Podcast, a 6-episode series about the Recovered Memory Movement of the late 1980's and early 90's, told from the perspective of a bystander.
The Memory Hole Podcast is intended only for mature audiences and deals with topics of childhood sexual abuse and incest. Please do not listen with children.
If you or someone you know has experienced sexual abuse, please call RAINN (Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network) at their 24-hour hotline 1-800-656-4673. More information is available on their website www.rainn.org
Sound clips:
Meredith Maran (Interview 5/23/2023)
Mark Pendergrast (Interview 6/14/2023)
Questions from ‘Taking Stock’; The Courage To Heal, First edition 1988
More information can be found at www.memoryholepodcast.com
The Memory Hole Podcast is created and produced by Jena Martin.