Think cloud security is boring? Think again. Daniel talks with Tom Orbach, Director of Growth Marketing at Wiz and creator of the Marketing Ideas newsletter. His mission? Make “boring” impossible to ignore. Tom reveals the three-step framework he’s used to turn a quiet cybersecurity brand into a social-media magnet: Humor. Participation. Status. He drops real examples you can steal: a CISO Toy Store, a cybersecurity musical, even a meditation app for stressed-out security leaders. These stunts turned brand awareness into fuel for sales and made Wiz the name everyone in cloud security knows. Whether you market SaaS, finance, or any “too serious” industry, this conversation proves “boring” can be exciting if you know how to Market your brand. If you want your brand to get noticed, talked about, and remembered, this episode is for you.  Atlassian is made for teams. Organize, collaborate, and manage work with a suite of tools that include Jira, Confluence, Trello, and more. To learn about how Atlassian can change the game for your team, go to https://www.atlassian.com/ Follow Tom: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomorbach/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

A lot of customers add items to their carts, but never buy. It’s time to fix that.  Daniel is joined by Brian Best, current Senior CRM Lead @ Samsung. They talk about the impending holiday season (yes, it’s right around the corner) and how you can pull shoppers back in using CRM and retargeting strategies.  Brian talks about making SMS, push, and email into a seamless journey, even if we’re trained to think they’re separate items. This journey also works for retargeting. With things like smart emails to category-specific nudges, you can move customers down the funnel…and have them coming back for more.  Plus, what’s the deal with customer lifetime value? How do you even calculate it? CLV should drive every decision you make, especially around the holiday season. Staying at the top of your customers’ minds should be your priority.  Whether you’re gearing up for Black Friday or building year-round retention, this is the episode for you.  Wunderkind is a global performance marketing solution powered by AI, data, and identity. To learn more, visit: https://www.wunderkind.co/ Follow Brian: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-r-best/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

A baby blowout, a bird bomb, and a masterclass in making people click “yes.” Jay and Daniel go over parenting woes, bird mishaps, and how to get people to actually fill out your forms. Ever heard of a no-scroll tactic? Jay shares how it boosted conversions by 60%. Daniel also shares how his two-step tactic is more effective than forms with 4-5 steps.  Ever felt like filling out a form takes too much time? As Marketers, you can always use microcopy like “this takes 30 seconds” to reassure your audience. Plus, how do you create the best CTA possible? If you're a Marketer looking to come up with better forms AND have them convert, this is the episode for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Think AI is just for coming up with hooks and generating images? Think again.  Daniel sits down with Phil Lakin, Head of Enterprise Innovation at Zapier, to reveal how marketers can turn AI into a measurable growth engine, partner, and automation tool. Phil breaks down the biggest mistakes teams make when adding AI to their workflows. What does mapping have to do with automation? Turns out, you should map workflows manually before implementing anything AI-related. He also shares quick wins that save Marketers 20-40 hours a week. Plus, who should lead the charge? Daniel and Phil discuss how the next leaders in AI will be skilled people managers who know how to guide and evaluate a team of digital agents just as they would human employees. If you’re ready to make AI a trusted partner and part of your workflow, this is the episode for you.  Check out Zapier + build and ship AI workflows in minutes: https://zapier.com/ Zapier has nearly 8,000 integrations, so you can automate with AI without relying on engineering. That means you can roll out AI-powered workflows that do real work across your whole company in minutes, not weeks. Turn disconnected data into lush campaign insights, automate your sales outreach and follow-up, and clear your IT ticket queue faster. The possibilities are endless. Follow Phil: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-lakin/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

BFCM is the Super Bowl of ecom. Do you have your game plan? In this episode, Daniel and Tim (VP of Digital, Content, and AI at Wunderkind) discuss how the smartest brands are turning anonymous visitors into lifelong customers…and doing it automatically. If you’re still blasting the same email to everyone, you’re leaving mountains of revenue on the table. Tim breaks down how AI decisioning engines pinpoint exactly when and how to reach each shopper, creating hyper-personalized messages that convert at lightning speed.  Also, should you be totally transparent about pricing in the age of taxes and tariffs? What does it mean to be mobile-first as a brand? They explain how all of it matters in the long run for trust and staying top-of-mind.  If you’re ready to move past spray-and-pray marketing this BFCM and start selling to people for life, this is the episode for you.  Check out Wunderkind and their Agentic AI capabilities: https://www.wunderkind.co/ Follow Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timglomb/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Reporting live from a sweaty Waymo in San Francisco, Daniel and Jay ask an important question: Are you using Reddit to your brand’s advantage? With a few minutes and the right subreddits, you can figure out trends before they appear on TikTok and Instagram, engage with other users in niche communities, and even hear about customer pain points so you can avoid them as much as possible. There are paid ad opportunities, too. And, do you need a huge following on Reddit? You don’t need a zillion followers like Instagram to get likes on your posts. It’s totally different and 100% useful.  If you're a Marketer looking to do more research and run some tests, this is the episode for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does the future of marketing look like when every employee has AI agents as teammates? In this episode, Daniel and Slack CMO Ryan Gavin break down how AI and agentic tools are transforming the way we work, collaborate, and create value.  From using Slack AI to instantly access a company’s “long-term memory,” to deploying engineering agents that save millions of hours, Ryan shares practical examples of how AI-first thinking is reshaping marketing, sales, and productivity. And, why do marketers need a beginner’s mindset in an AI-driven world? Things are changing, including how we rethink email and customer journeys with agents at the center. Ryan also explains the cultural shift needed for teams to embrace AI (moving from doers of tasks to orchestrators of work) and why he believes “marketing is the product, and the product is the marketing.” If you want to understand how AI will change your role, your team, and your company in the next five years, this episode is a roadmap for thriving in the era of agent-first marketing. Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gavin-seattle/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials More at www.workweek.com

What really gets you promoted and what keeps you stuck? Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN. She’s joined by Maya Grossman, ex-Google and Microsoft turned CEO and career coach. From the “mid-management loop” to the myths about MBAs and hard work, Maya shares the lessons she learned after 17 promotion rejections on her way to VP. So what actually gets you promoted? Together, Tamara and Maya dig into the real drivers of career growth: shifting from execution to strategy, learning how to say no without guilt, and developing the kind of executive presence that makes leaders see you as ready for more. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything right but still not moving up, this episode will change how you think about advancement. It’s not about working harder, it’s about working differently. Follow Maya: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayagrossman/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What can we learn from brands like Magic Spoon and other disruptors? Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN. And just like last episode, she’s got Louis Grenier on deck with his stand the f*ck out mantra. Who are the brands that are actually standing out, and what can we learn from them?  Turns out, category creation might be a myth. Instead, Louis explains the power of subcategories and how smart positioning borrows from what customers already know and buy. And, where IS everyone? Tamara and Louis break down the Marketing science behind the concept of continuous reach.   If you’re a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually remember when it comes time to purchase, this episode is for you. Follow Louis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisgrenier/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

New baby, new perspective, and yes, even unsubscribes can teach you something.  In this episode, Daniel shows up as a first-time dad, running on no sleep but plenty of diaper-changing reps, while Jay brings the unsubscriber data that’ll make any marketer stop panicking and start paying attention. Why do consumers ghost after the welcome offer? What’s unsubscribe season and how can we prepare for it? They break it down.  And, Daniel also gets candid about his newsletter hitting 150,000+ subscribers and the hilarious side effect of readers accusing him of using AI just because of emojis and dashes. He sets the record straight why it’s totally fine if people unsubscribe. It means the right audience sticks around longer. If you're a Marketer looking to stop panicking when people leave your list, this is the episode for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What does it really take to stand out in a crowded market? Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN. She’s joined by Louis Grenier to unpack his philosophy of “standing the f*ck out.”  From his contrarian roots to lessons learned at Hotjar and beyond, Louis shares core questions every marketer must answer, why traditional personas fall short, and how to create positioning that actually gives customers a reason to choose you. And, what’s the role of product marketing? What’s the difference between segmentation vs. belonging? Tamara and Louis reveal their answers and even share some hills they’re dying on.  If you’re a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually remember, this episode is for you. Follow Louis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisgrenier/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What’s scarier: writing a book when you swear you’re borderline illiterate… or standing on stage in front of 12,000 people at Inbound?  Daniel and Jay get real about public speaking. The wins, the disasters, and the stuff nobody tells you before you grab the mic. You’ll hear Jay’s wild journey writing his new book Stupider People Have Done It (all proceeds go to cancer research), plus the exact tips they use to survive the spotlight without crashing and burning.  Why shouldn’t you memorize your talk? Turns out, it’s a fast track to boring. Daniel and Jay spill their best hacks for calming nerves, making a real human connection with your audience, and actually keeping people awake during your talk. If you’ve ever broken into a sweat before a presentation, rushed through too many slides, or wondered what to do with your hands while you’re talking, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Webinars are everywhere, but most marketers are doing them wrong.  In this episode, Daniel sits down with Logan Lyles, founder of Demand Shift, to break down the Webinar Fast Track Framework and how to turn sign-ups into real results.  From the #1 mistake B2B brands make, to building a series that actually converts, Logan shares how to rethink promotion, registration flows, live engagement, and repurposing content. You’ll learn: > Why most webinar strategies fail to deliver sales opportunities > How to design titles, graphics, and landing pages that actually drive clicks > The two-step registration hack that 5–10x’s booked calls > Ways to boost live attendance with polls, exclusives, and giveaways > How to repurpose webinars into endless content fuel If you’re a Marketer who wants to host better (and more engaging live events), this is the episode for YOU. Follow Logan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loganlyles/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

AI is changing Marketing faster than ever, but it doesn’t have to be intimidating. Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN…and she’s got product marketer, startup veteran, and AI enthusiast Michelle Nieberding to talk about how to bring more play and less panic into experimenting with AI. Michelle shares the story of how necessity at a small startup led her to explore AI tools, and why she now treats testing new tech as both a professional advantage and a personal hobby. So, what are some ways to start using it? Marketers can repurpose webinars into social clips, and analyze customer feedback, and even rethink how KPIs get tracked. Plus, how does she feel about AI agents? Michelle explains her take.  If you’ve ever wondered how to get started with AI in your work, or just want one new tool to test this week, this is the episode for you.  Follow Michele: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-nieberding/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What makes a landing page irresistible? Should your pop-ups always take over the whole screen? And is it actually worth asking for birthdays and half birthdays on your forms? Jay, Daniel, and their first-ever Bathroom Break guest Ari Murray break down the art of building better landing pages.  From mobile-first design to when a two-step form makes sense, Ari shares the little details that make a big difference in conversions. The truth? Too many brands ignore the basics, like where the CTA sits or how widgets block the cart. Plus, Ari and Daniel go head-to-head over birthday traditions, Jay confesses his love for coconut cake, and we find out which celebrity shares Ari’s birthday. This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is for marketers, growth hackers, and anyone who wants more clicks, sign-ups, and sales. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Follow Ari: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arimurray/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What do Michael Kors, Blue Nile, and Typeform have in common? More than you’d think. Daniel’s OUT, Tamara’s IN. She’s joined by Kevin Branscum, a brand leader who’s worked across fashion, luxury, and B2B SaaS. Together, they explore why the best brands aren’t built on features or functions but on feelings, cultural awareness, and creativity. What can SaaS and B2B Marketers learn from fashion CMOs? Turns out, there’s a similar connection between people and software beyond just its practical use. Research should go beyond product usage into the real lives of customers. And, Brand can (and should) be an “always on” refresh. They also dig into how to avoid the copycat trap of competitor marketing and why taste might just be the most important marketing skill in the AI era. If you’re a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually connect with, this episode is for you. Follow Kevin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinbranscum/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Ever wonder why so much marketing messaging sounds impressive but leaves you cold? That’s because most brands are talking to themselves instead of the people they’re trying to reach. Daniel’s out, Tamara’s IN. Messaging strategist and author Emma Stratton joins Tamara to break down how to flip your copy from inside out to outside in so it speaks directly to what your audience cares about. Emma suggests saying things like you actually mean them with her “say it like you would at a barbecue” rule. It’s time to ditch jargon and make your value obvious.  Plus, is AI a writer or a thought partner? Truth is, AI is the latter. Emma and Tamara share their opinions on when and how to use it.  If you’re a Marketer who wants to write better copy and craft better messages, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Emma: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-stratton-punchy/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What’s the secret to getting a job in Marketing? Should you really take your graduation years out of your LinkedIn info? Why was Jay running the security desk at the YMCA at only 14?  Daniel and Jay break down their job search tips and promotion tricks. From tailoring your resume to building your personal brand, a lot goes into your career moves.  The truth? The best time to look for a job is while you still have one. Plus, Jay has a take: you don’t need to stay somewhere for a year before looking elsewhere.  And, Daniel mentions you should take every interview, even if you don’t want the job…you’ll never know what’ll happen until you give it a chance.  This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is for job hunters, people aiming for a promotion, or if you’re just thinking about your next move. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Behavioral science holds the keys to some of the most effective, yet overlooked, marketing strategies. And if you’re not thinking about it, you’re already behind.  Daniel sits down with Phill Agnew, host of the UK's #1 marketing podcast Nudge, to explore psychological principles that can transform the way you sell.  From why loss aversion outperforms gain framing, to using scarcity without backfiring, to the surprising benefits of admitting your flaws, Phill unpacks examples and research-backed tactics you can apply today. And, what’s up with Phill’s reading list? He breaks down why you should read the 25 on his list…and why there are 5 to avoid.  If you’re a Marketer who wants to understand the WHY behind your customers’ decisions, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Phill: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phill-agnew/?originalSubdomain=uk Phill’s 25 Books to Read (And 5 to Avoid): https://nudge.kit.com/reading-list Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Search is changing for the first time since Google launched. And it’s changing fast. Daniel’s out, Tamara’s IN. In this episode, she sits down with Nick Lafferty, Growth Marketer at Profound, to unpack the seismic shift from traditional SEO to AI-powered search engines like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google’s AI Overviews. Nick shares what’s broken about search today, how conversational AI is replacing “tin blue links” with direct answers, and why organic traffic is dropping across industries. Plus, where does AI pull its answers from? Nick gives a breakdown of its sources and why now is the time to experiment with new strategies.  If you’re a Marketer who wants to stay ahead of the curve, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Nick: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklafferty/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com