30: Does Our Food System Need A Reboot? | Healing Our Food System with Dave Chapman

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The Market Gardener Podcast

JM Fortier

36 episodes

1 week ago

Welcome to The Market Gardener Podcast! Join hosts JM Fortier and Chris Moran as they engage with influential members of the global small-scale farming and organic regenerative agriculture community. Our podcast is your gateway to insightful conversations about farming, food, small businesses, and thought leadership in the world of sustainable agriculture. We're here to shine a positive light on the practices and principles that drive small-scale farming, agroecology, and community building. Tune in for high-level discussions that inspire and empower a new era of positive farming.

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30: Does Our Food System Need A Reboot? | Healing Our Food System with Dave Chapman

The Market Gardener Podcast

2 hours 21 minutes 20 seconds

2 months ago

30: Does Our Food System Need A Reboot? | Healing Our Food System with Dave Chapman

In this episode, we speak with Dave Chapman, co-founder of the Real Organic Project, about the political and ecological crossroads facing the organic food movement. Dave reflects on the industrial takeover of the USDA organic label and why he believes decentralization—not scaling—is key to meaningful change. The conversation explores the deep ties between soil health, human health, and corporate power, questioning whether collapse is necessary for real transformation. Dave also shares insights from past guests on climate, culture, and the true meaning of sustainability. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire Q&A, touching on books, bread, and the surprising food that might just help us trust our taste buds again.

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Timestamps

[0:00] Intro

[3:09] The origins of the Real Organic Project

[11:37] Why revisit the 1970s counterculture today?

[23:12] Politics enters the food conversation

[33:45] Human health and the need for real food

[50:28] Decentralization as the key to food system change

[1:04:12] Origins of organic and how it became political

[1:40:09] Nutritional dark matter and industrial farming

[1:52:11] Environmental health and climate impacts

[2:00:06] Gluten, gut health, and heritage grains

[2:03:00] Agriculture as a social and cultural movement