šļø Ep. 163: Health and Hype with Dr. Rafid Fadul, Ep 163 šļø
From the world of economics to the ICU, Dr. Rafat Fadul has lived two remarkably different livesāone rooted in finance, the other on the frontlines of medicine. In this thought-provoking episode, he shares what pulled him away from chasing profits and toward a mission to fix whatās broken in our healthcare system.
As Co-Founder and CEO of Zivian Health and Chief Medical Advisor at Cenegenics, Dr. Fadul brings a wealth of experienceāand a no-nonsense perspectiveāthat cuts straight to the heart of the issues.
Together, we unpack some hard truths about the system, the emotional toll on providers, and where the future of medicine is headedāif weāre willing to make the change.
š„ 4 powerful takeaways from this episode:
š§ Mental health isnāt optional. Our healthcare workers are burned out and broken, and the system is failing to support their emotional well-being.
š Where you live = how long you live. Healthcare inequities are real, and your zip code often predicts your access to careāand your lifespan.
āļø Tech can help, but it canāt replace compassion. The future of medicine depends on finding balance between AI and authentic human connection.
š Cutting-edge mental health therapies like ketamine treatment are offering hope where traditional models fall short.
š§ This one will shift how you think about healthcareāfrom both sides of the bedrail.
#mentalhealthmatters #healthcare #preventativemedicine #AIinMedicine
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Chapters
(00:00) Introduction to Dr. Rafat Fadul
(01:03) Journey into Medicine: From Economics to Healthcare
(03:36) The Shift to Preventive Medicine and Longevity
(04:13) Healthcare Inequities: The Impact of Zip Codes
(08:06) Challenges in At-Risk Areas: Access and Incentives for Physicians
(11:02) The Role of PAs and NPs in Healthcare
(12:54) The Future of Medicine: AI and Human Connection
(16:17) Moral Injury in Healthcare: The Emotional Toll
(20:08) Support Systems for Healthcare Workers: A Call for Change
(21:28) The Weight of Loss in Medicine
(26:46) The Fragility of Life and Its Appreciation
(31:39) Mental Health and Emotional Resilience
(34:31) Innovations in Mental Health Therapies
(39:08) The Journey of Personal Growth and Success
(44:30) The Meaning of Success in Life Lessons
(47:22) Authenticity and Impact in Conversations
(50:02) Navigating the Challenges of Healthcare
(53:51) The Flaws of the Insurance System
(01:00:38) Demystifying Healthcare and Mental Health
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About Dr. Rafid Fadul:
Dr. Rafid Fadul, MD, MBA, is the Co-Founder and CEO of Zivian Health, a compliance and quality platform for advanced practice providers, a role he has held since July 2022. He also serves as Director of Pulmonary Medicine at Blanchard Valley Health System and Chief Medical Advisor at Cenegenics, a leader in performance health. His past leadership roles include Executive Medical Director at Wheel and Chief Medical Officer at Community Intensivists. Clinically, Dr. Fadul has worked at the Cleveland Clinicās Respiratory Institute and in internal medicine. He has also served as an Adjunct Professor at The Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School and is a published author in the New England Journal of Medicine. He earned his MD from The George Washington University School of Medicine and his MBA from Johns Hopkins University.
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Learn more about Cenegenics here.
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