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The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins
LaTonya Wilkins
61 episodes
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Honest conversations on leadership, emotional strength, and human connection in a chaotic world. Hosted by LaTonya Wilkins—award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface—this podcast explores inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and personal growth. Whether you’re a leader, coach, or simply navigating life with intention, you’ll walk away with real tools to lead and live more authentically. Learn more at changecoaches.io.
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Honest conversations on leadership, emotional strength, and human connection in a chaotic world. Hosted by LaTonya Wilkins—award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface—this podcast explores inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and personal growth. Whether you’re a leader, coach, or simply navigating life with intention, you’ll walk away with real tools to lead and live more authentically. Learn more at changecoaches.io.
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Ep 50: Inclusion Below the Surface: The Hard Truths and Risks of Abandoning Inclusivity
The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins
38 minutes 53 seconds
6 months ago
Ep 50: Inclusion Below the Surface: The Hard Truths and Risks of Abandoning Inclusivity

Dive into the challenging realities of inclusive leadership in this powerful episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast! Host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes psychologist and author Nadia Nagamootoo to discuss her groundbreaking book "Beyond Discomfort: Why Inclusive Leadership is so Hard.

Episode Summary:

In this thought-provoking conversation, LaTonya and Nadia explore why inclusion goes far beyond traditional DEI frameworks and why abandoning inclusivity poses significant risks to organizations and society. They discuss how inclusive leadership impacts innovation, mental health, and our ability to address global challenges, revealing the psychological barriers that make inclusion difficult but even more necessary in today's world.

Key Insights:

  • Inclusive leadership extends beyond corporate DEI initiatives to impact innovation, mental health, and our approach to global challenges 

  • Power dynamics create resistance to inclusive practices, making change difficult but essential. 

  • The psychological discomfort of inclusive leadership is something to embrace rather than avoid. 

  • Receptiveness to learning about ourselves and others is fundamental to inclusive leadership.

  • Short-term thinking prevents us from seeing the long-term benefits of inclusive practices

If you're concerned about recent backlash against inclusion initiatives or looking for deeper perspectives on creating truly inclusive environments, this episode offers valuable insights that go below the surface of conventional DEI discussions.

  • 👉 Don't forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the NOTIFICATION BELL to stay updated on new episodes exploring leadership that challenges the status quo!

More About NadiaNADIA NAGAMOOTOO (she/her) is the founder and CEO of Avenir.  She’s a Chartered Psychologist, a MBA and accredited coach with 20 years’ experience in the field of leadership development, culture change and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion.  She’s worked globally to provoke powerful conversations at all organizational levels and develop sustainable inclusive leadership practises. 

 

She is host of the popular podcast show, Why Care?, where she delves deeply into the complex and uncomfortable world of DEI.  Her bestselling book, Beyond Discomfort: Why inclusive leadership is so hard (and what you can do about it) was published in March 2024 and has been shortlisted for the Business Book of the Year Awards 2025.

 

www.avenirconsultingservices.com – for information about what Nadia’s company does

www.nadianagamootoo.com – for information on the podcast show, book and speaking

www.beyond-discomfort.com – for free resources and tools related to the book

Connect with us: 

Email us at ⁠info@changecoaches.io⁠

Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ (changecoaches.io)

Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface (https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/)

Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/)

Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/82310593)

For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface (leadingbelowthesurface.com)

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#InclusiveLeadership #LeadingBelowTheSurface #DEI #Leadership #HardTruths #PowerDynamics #WorkplaceCulture #Innovation #MentalHealth #Inclusivity


The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins
Honest conversations on leadership, emotional strength, and human connection in a chaotic world. Hosted by LaTonya Wilkins—award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface—this podcast explores inclusive leadership, psychological safety, and personal growth. Whether you’re a leader, coach, or simply navigating life with intention, you’ll walk away with real tools to lead and live more authentically. Learn more at changecoaches.io.