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The Idea of...
Bassey Ikpi and Mike Andrews
46 episodes
3 days ago
The Idea of… is a podcast where New York Times Best Selling Author, Bassey Ikpi and Dr. Michael Andrews explore the intersections of Black culture, family, art, and mental health. As children of immigrant parents and xennial creatives, they dive into nuanced conversations about raising sons in competitive soccer, navigating Black identity, and balancing intellect, ratchet joy, and righteousness. Join them as they explore what it means to live, create, and thrive in today’s world with love and authenticity.
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The Idea of… is a podcast where New York Times Best Selling Author, Bassey Ikpi and Dr. Michael Andrews explore the intersections of Black culture, family, art, and mental health. As children of immigrant parents and xennial creatives, they dive into nuanced conversations about raising sons in competitive soccer, navigating Black identity, and balancing intellect, ratchet joy, and righteousness. Join them as they explore what it means to live, create, and thrive in today’s world with love and authenticity.
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The Idea Of... Breaking Up With Drake
The Idea of...
1 hour 34 minutes 12 seconds
3 months ago
The Idea Of... Breaking Up With Drake

This week, Mike and Bassey confront the emotional, cultural, and spiritual process of breaking up with Drake—and everything that led to it.

From a transformative (and joy-filled!) Carnival Cruise experience to the grown-man brilliance of the Clipse album rollout, they explore how hip-hop is evolving, how narratives are weaponized online, and why authenticity is finally making a comeback.

Mike opens up about his previous support for Drake and what finally pushed him over the edge. Bassey doesn’t hold back. Together, they unpack what happens when an artist you once rooted for starts performing as a parody of himself.

In this episode:

  • The actual truth about Carnival Cruises and Black joy at sea

  • Why the Clipse rollout is a masterclass in mature, intentional hip-hop

  • Drake’s descent into gimmickry and the toll of manufactured authenticity

  • Essence Fest backlash, diaspora wars, and who benefits from cultural confusion

  • A big-picture conversation about Black creativity, evolution, and emotional clarity

Funny, thoughtful, unfiltered, and overdue—this one’s for everyone who's ever had to outgrow a version of themselves… or their favorite rapper.


  • Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Cosmic Energy

    02:47 Cruise Experience and Cultural Reflections

    05:31 Listener Engagement and Apologies

    08:21 Black Representation in Cruise Culture

    10:57 Navigating Fun and Ruckus on Cruises

    14:01 Essence Festival and Cultural Conversations

    31:36 The Currency of Black Emotion

    37:02 Representation in Hip Hop: The Clips and Black Wellness

    42:42 The Evolution of Hip Hop: From Violence to Authenticity

    48:38 Drake's Influence and the UK Rap Scene

    59:38 The Impact of Celebrity on Hip Hop Narratives

    01:04:09 The Complexity of Identity in Music

    01:06:59 Navigating Fame and Authenticity

    01:08:52 The Dynamics of Celebrity Relationships

    01:14:44 Support Systems in the Spotlight

    01:20:31 The Evolution of Hip-Hop and Its Icons


  • The Idea of...
    The Idea of… is a podcast where New York Times Best Selling Author, Bassey Ikpi and Dr. Michael Andrews explore the intersections of Black culture, family, art, and mental health. As children of immigrant parents and xennial creatives, they dive into nuanced conversations about raising sons in competitive soccer, navigating Black identity, and balancing intellect, ratchet joy, and righteousness. Join them as they explore what it means to live, create, and thrive in today’s world with love and authenticity.