Why do people really stay—or leave—their jobs?
It’s not about perks, pay, or titles. It’s about growth, relationships, and culture.
In this episode of The Good Leadership Podcast, Charles Good sits down with Dr. Beverly Kaye and Dr. Dave Ulrich, two of the most influential voices in leadership and HR who share timeless insights on what makes employees stay engaged, loyal, and inspired and how organizations can turn those insights into lasting value.
In this episode:
The three reasons people stay—and what drives them away
Why managers should “ask more and assume less”
How career conversations become culture-shaping moments
Why HR must shift from administration to value creation
How aligning purpose and values builds performance and belonging
Why curiosity—not control—is the ultimate engagement strategy
✨ Key Idea:When employees can grow, belong, and live their values, retention becomes effortless—and culture becomes your greatest competitive advantage.
🎙️ About the Guests:Dr. Beverly Kaye is a pioneer in career development and employee engagement, and author of the bestsellers Love ’Em or Lose ’Em and Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go. Her work has helped countless organizations keep and grow their best people.
Dr. Dave Ulrich, often called “The Father of Modern HR,” is a global authority on leadership, culture, and human capability. His 30+ books and consulting work have reshaped how organizations connect people, purpose, and performance.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership Legends
02:55 Strategies for Engaging Top Talent
06:53 Aligning Purpose with Performance
09:58 Building a Strong Organizational Culture
13:55 Career Conversations and Growth
17:40 Navigating Employee Departures
27:20 Key Insights and Takeaways