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The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
Michael Hill
30 episodes
1 week ago
The Foreign Area Officer Podcast. Interviews with Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine officers who serve as Foreign Area Officers (FAOs) throughout the world. This podcast serves to build a community of mentors and narratives to help build the community and communicate the value of the FAO corps to senior leaders in the interagency community.
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The Foreign Area Officer Podcast. Interviews with Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine officers who serve as Foreign Area Officers (FAOs) throughout the world. This podcast serves to build a community of mentors and narratives to help build the community and communicate the value of the FAO corps to senior leaders in the interagency community.
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The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#29 - COL Matt Kopp, USA
Join me for an illuminating discussion with Colonel Matt Kopp, a U.S. Army FAO. We explore Colonel Kopp's beginning as a 48B, focusing on pivotal partnerships in Latin America, particularly during the final phases of Colombia’s Civil War. Colonel Kopp shares insights into his transition to a 48J, concentrating on Sub-Saharan Africa, and the critical need to understand and respond to the human and institutional complexities in these regions. The conversation includes discussions on his operational challenges, such as managing high-profile visits and interagency coordination, and the role of psychology and sociology in his duties. We also touch upon his work with the Army Foreign Area Officer Association, focusing on mentorship, fostering academic discourse, and preparing FAOs for influential second careers.   Books Discussed Thinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman https://a.co/d/fNUHTUn  Neither Devil Nor Child: How Western Attitudes Are Harming Africa, by Tom Young https://a.co/d/9yv70Z8  On the Psychology of Military Incompetence, by Norman F. Dixon https://a.co/d/4nkJNIt    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimers 00:42 Meet Colonel Matt Kopp 01:01 Career Choices and Transitions 02:22 Experiences in Sub-Saharan Africa 03:39 Challenges and Responsibilities at HRC 08:23 PhD Journey and Research 15:36 Transition to Africa FAO 23:02 Building Relationships and Team Dynamics 31:07 Insights on Leadership and Collaboration 43:46 Psychological Factors and Broader Perspectives 48:18 Understanding Heuristics in International Relations 50:28 Managing High Operational Tempo in Kenya 51:00 Military Operations and Planning in Diplomatic Missions 56:26 Lessons from Secret Service and VIP Visits 01:04:04 Transition to Army Service Component Commands 01:13:01 Experiences in Latin America and SOUTHCOM 01:26:32 The Role of the Army Foreign Area Officer Association 01:33:31 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
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2 months ago
1 hour 43 minutes 15 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#28 - LTC Lemar Farhad, USA
This episode of the Foreign Area Officer Podcast delves into the unique background of LTC Lemar Farhad, USA, tracing his journey from a culturally diverse upbringing and Afghan heritage to his pivotal role in the U.S. Army. Lemar shares his transition into the FAO program, starting with his early assignments as an infantry and intelligence officer and detailing his first exposure to U.S. embassies and defense cooperation. Through captivating anecdotes, he highlights his significant assignments, including his work in Special Operations Command Europe, his impactful tenure as the ODC Chief in Kuala Lumpur, and his current role in Korea focusing on non-combatant evacuation operations (NEO). The conversation also explores challenges in leadership, the importance of understanding cultural contexts, and the value of reading to gain diverse perspectives. Lemar's journey exemplifies the integration of strategic thinking and operational expertise, emphasizing the art of diplomacy and the FAO community's crucial role in global defense and cooperation.   Articles: Reimagining Policing in America—A Complete Institutional Overhaul by LTC Lemar Farhad   Books Discussed:  2034 by Elliot Ackerman and Admiral (Ret.) James Stavridis USN 2054 by Elliot Ackerman and Admiral (Ret.) James Stavridis USN Ghost fleet by P.W. Singer   00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer 00:46 Meet the Guest: Lemar Farhad 01:04 Transition to FAO: From Field to Strategy 02:04 First Impressions of FAOs 03:33 The Path to Monterey 04:36 Language Training at DLI 12:12 Unexpected Assignment: Malaysia 13:34 Experiences at the Malaysian Staff College 14:35 Return to the U.S. and Grad School 19:33 First Assignment at CENTCOM 21:20 Challenges and Lessons at CENTCOM 26:21 Mentorship and Professional Development 34:16 Transition to J2 at CENTCOM 36:34 Introduction to Central Asia Desk 37:05 Building Relationships in Central Asia 38:03 Challenges of Language and Culture 39:16 Innovative Security Cooperation Programs 41:21 Impact of COVID-19 on Operations 42:39 Personal Heritage and Career Impact 44:00 Father's Academic Journey 46:40 Early Life and Cultural Identity 47:51 Deployment to Afghanistan Post-9/11 48:53 Unique Assignment with Special Forces 01:05:37 Transition to MI and Multiple Deployments 01:07:52 Reconnecting with the Intelligence Community 01:08:37 Special Operations Command in Europe 01:09:08 First Country Team Assignment in Malaysia 01:11:20 Challenges with a Difficult Deputy 01:14:22 Leadership and Team Dynamics 01:20:50 Current Role in Korea: NEO Operations 01:39:48 The Importance of Reading and Fiction 01:45:28 Final Thoughts and Reflections
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2 months ago
1 hour 47 minutes 38 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#27 - COL(R) USAF Matt Yocum
Join me for a conversation with USAF Col. (Ret.) Matt Yocum as we delve into his unique career trajectory, starting from his non-standard background in the Air Force's acquisition and engineering fields. Matt discusses his pivotal assignments, including his time in Israel as part of the Engineer and Scientist Exchange Program and later as an Air Force attaché, where he navigated through significant events like the Second Lebanon War. This episode also explores his role as a Commander's Action Group (CAG) director at CENTCOM, where he was instrumental in providing detailed and narratively rich reports on international engagements. Matt reflects on the importance of storytelling in military communication and its impact on effective diplomacy. The talk also covers his post-military career as a writer of comic books and graphic novels, highlighting his passion for the art form and his current projects, including a biographical graphic novel on a notable Pakistani figure. Throughout the episode, Matt emphasizes the significance of relationship-building, effective communication, and relentless helpfulness in both military and personal endeavors.   Links: www.Hangar19Consulting.com www.MattYocum.com Closet World Kickstarter   Books: The Twilight War by David Crist Brief by Joe McCormick Lawrence in Arabia by Scott Anderson The New Map by Daniel Jurgen Power Broker by Robert Caro The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro The Vision by King, Waltaand Bellaire Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow by King, Evely and Lopes Pluto: Urusawa x Tekuza by Nagasaki and Urasawa Bone by Jeff Smith   Time Stamps: 00:00 Introduction and Disclaimers 00:46 Meet Colonel Matt Yocum 01:15 Colonel Yocum’s Air Force Journey 01:59 The Engineer and Scientist Exchange Program (ESEP) 02:44 Life and Work in Israel 04:42 Challenges and Experiences in Israel 09:01 Language Learning and Cultural Insights 34:58 The Second Lebanon War 39:35 Observations and Responsibilities as an Attache 45:31 Career Transitions and Future Plans 50:37 Arrival in Amman, Jordan 50:46 The New Normal: ISIS Crisis 51:44 Embassy Life and Community 54:02 Building Relationships and Cooperation 55:19 Information Sharing and Collaboration 01:03:34 Training and Equipping the Jordanian Air Force 01:18:44 Commander's Action Group (CAG) Experience 01:37:51 Decision to Stay in CAG 01:39:06 Balancing Family and Duty 01:40:43 Returning to JSO and Preparing for Retirement 01:42:14 Final Assignment and Retirement Ceremony 01:45:37 Reflecting on a Military Career 01:47:30 Challenges and Triumphs in Promotions 01:55:37 Post-Military Career in Comics 02:02:18 The Art of Storytelling in Communication 02:14:07 Recommended Reads and Final Thoughts    
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3 months ago
2 hours 24 minutes 21 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#26 - FA59 COL Nathan Finney, Army Strategist
Join me for an interview with U.S. Army Colonel Nate Finney, an Army Strategist (FA59), discussing the roles and training of FA59 strategists, their relationship with FAOs, and the importance of building interdisciplinary teams. Finney shares insights from his career, including positions at HQDA, USARPAC, and Indo-Pacific Command, highlighting the need for strategists and FAOs to collaborate effectively. The conversation also explores Finney's involvement in founding writing and strategy-oriented organizations like the Strategy Bridge and the Military Writers Guild, emphasizing writing as a critical tool for professional development. The episode concludes with a discussion on recent changes in U.S.-China relations, China's military modernization, and the strategic challenges faced by the U.S. in the Indo-Pacific region.
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3 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes 56 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#25 - COL Christian Werner
Join me for a conversation with Colonel Christian Werner, who currently serves at the U.S. Army War College. COL Werner shares his origin story of joining the Army influenced by his family's military background, his transition from Armor to FAO, and his extensive career path through various European assignments. He highlights his experiences in command and staff roles, the importance of language skills, and his impactful stint in Somalia as SDO/DATT. Werner also discusses his personal challenges, concepts like moral injury, and the importance of behavioral health. He explains the role and operations of the U.S. Military Observer Group and shares insights into SSC opportunities, language sustainment, and the rigorous BCAP/CCAP screening processes for command roles.
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4 months ago
1 hour 39 minutes 47 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#24 - CAPT USCG Aaron Delano Johnson
USCG Captain Aaron Delano Johnson is the U.S. Coast Guard Liaison Officer (CGLO) to the U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) in Doral, Florida. IN this interview CAPT DJ provides detailed insights into his career, spanning multiple international deployments and engagement with various partner nations. He discusses the diverse roles and missions of the Coast Guard, including maritime law enforcement, search and rescue, drug interdiction, and international cooperation, particularly in the Caribbean and Latin America. Johnson highlights the specific challenges and interactions the Coast Guard faces in countries like Colombia, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti. He also elaborates on the Coast Guard's involvement in broader security cooperation activities, security training, and humanitarian assistance. Beyond his Coast Guard duties, Johnson serves on the board of the Foreign Area Officer Association, promoting advocacy, professional development, and networking among FAOs across different services. The episode provides a comprehensive look at the strategic importance of the Coast Guard's international role and the value of strong inter-agency and international relationships.
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4 months ago
1 hour 41 minutes 3 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#23 - COL(R) Rick Cassidy
In this episode of the Foreign Area Officer Podcast, we hear from U.S. Army COL(R) Rick Cassidy. Cassidy shares a detailed account of his military career, beginning with his involvement in the ROTC program at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, and subsequent commissioning as an infantry officer in 1969. His military journey included assignments in Germany and a combat tour in Vietnam.  Cassidy transitioned into the Foreign Area Officer (FAO) program in 1975, where ultimately focused on Japan. His language training included a year at DLI and the Foreign Service Institute in Yokohama, Japan. Cassidy recounts his experiences managing significant bilateral relations and intelligence collection, notably as an attache in Japan and Thailand. He closes with his post-retirement career as a defense consultant, sharing insights into the business practices and challenges in international military sales.
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5 months ago
1 hour 29 minutes 38 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#22 - COL(R) Denny Lane
This conversation with COL (R) Denny Lane covers his unexpected path to becoming a FAO, his initial appointment as a Southeast Asian desk officer at the Pentagon, and his subsequent assignments in critical geopolitical regions including Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during tumultuous times. Lane details his work on the Yellow Rain investigations, his advisory roles in the Thai and Cambodian armies, and his linguistic prowess in French, Chinese, and Thai. The dialogue also covers his later roles in Hong Kong, Beijing, and with the United Nations Border Relief Operation (UNBRO) in Thailand, where he reported on the Khmer Rouge. 
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5 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 22 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#21 - LTG(R) Charles Hooper
When I started this project, LTG(R) Charles Hooper at the top of my list of FAOs I wanted to interview. Our discussion begins with a tribute to the late Colonel Sue Ann Sandusky, detailing her pioneering career in the FAO community and her impactful service in Sub-Saharan Africa. General Hooper reflects on his personal and professional relationship with Sandusky, highlighting her fearlessness and groundbreaking achievements. The conversation then delves into Hooper’s own FAO journey, describing the development and evolution of his career, including the challenges and triumphs of being dual-tracked in the early years of the program. We touch on the historical context of U.S.-China military relations, the importance of understanding China’s strategic culture, and General Hooper’s advocacy for cross-fertilization and single-tracking in FAO careers. The episode also features discussions on the value of Pentagon assignments, strategies for effective leadership and management as a FAO, and the need for FAOs to engage in writing and contributing to the discourse on international affairs.
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6 months ago
1 hour 48 minutes 41 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#20 - Lt Col (R) Duilia Mora Turner
In this episode of the Foreign Area Officer Podcast Lt Col (R) Duilia Mora Turner, the first Air Force FAO on the show, shares insights into her post-retirement work at Florida International University, where she is pursuing a Ph.D. focusing on women's leadership in Latin American militaries. The conversation delves deeply into the Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) program, covering its origins, implementation, and global impact. Dui recounts her experiences developing the WPS program at SOUTHCOM, emphasizing the importance of including women's perspectives in security and defense strategies. She also discusses her background, from growing up in Brazil to her career in the U.S. Air Force, and her transition to academia. This episode sheds light on the vital role of women in peace and security initiatives and highlights Dewey's contributions to this field.
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7 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes 14 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#19 - COL Jonathan and Margy Dunn
U.S. Army Colonel Jonathan Dunn and his wife, Margy delve into Colonel Dunn's career journey from military upbringing to teaching at West Point and becoming an FAO. Margy shares her experiences balancing family life with the demands and challenges of military service, particularly as a mother of EFMP (Exceptional Family Member Program) children. The discussion covers topics such as the intricacies of the FAO training pipeline, the challenges of unaccompanied tours, and the importance of mentorship. The episode also explores the financial logistics for EFMP families, their experiences traveling with children, and the essential role of communication and support systems in making it all work.
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7 months ago
1 hour 35 minutes 10 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#18 - MG(R) Jack Leide
This episode features an in-depth interview with MG(R) Jack Leide, one of the U.S. Army's most senior Foreign Area Officers (FAOs). The conversation delves into MG Jack Leide’s extensive and multifaceted military career, including his early involvement in the Foreign Area Specialty Training (FAST) program, his work at NSA and DIA, and multiple combat deployments. MG Jack Leide discusses his specialty in China, linguistic training, and deployments, including his experience in the Dominican Republic during Operation Power Pack, multiple combat deployments to Vietnam, and his impactful role during the Tiananmen Square incident. He highlights the evolution of U.S.-China relations and offers insights into the importance of predictive analysis, language, area studies, and professional courage in military intelligence. We also cover his time as the J2 during Desert Storm and the publication of his book, "Professional Courage: My Journey in Military Intelligence Through Peace, Crisis, and War", providing a repository of lessons learned for FAOs and military leaders. You can purchase the book here: https://a.co/d/1tfl679 
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8 months ago
1 hour 54 minutes

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#17 - LCDR Alec Emmert
LCDR Alec Emmert, US Navy Reserve FAO recounts his upbringing in Rio de Janeiro, his military career from being a submariner to serving in Bahrain and Italy, and his subsequent transition to the private sector with firms like Booz Allen Hamilton and McKinsey. He elaborates on his discovery of the Reserve FAO career path, the requisite qualifications, and the significance of language skills and regional expertise. He is also the CEO of Service to School, aiding veterans in transitioning to college. Join us as we discuss the importance of continuous learning, adaptability, and leveraging networks for growth within the FAO community.  
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8 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 45 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#16 - The 5 FAO Truths - COL(R) Mike Burgoyne & LTC(R) Jim Marckwardt
In this episode of the Foreign Area Officer we delve into the critical role of Foreign Area Officers (FAOs) with COL(R) Mike Burgoyne and LTC(R) Jim Marckwardt. Mike and Jim discuss their recent article  ‘Five Foreign Area Officer Truths,’ published in Joint Forces Quarterly. Below are the 5 Truths, listen in to hear more. 1.⁠ ⁠FAOs Are Most Effective in the Gray Zone Between Peace and War 2.⁠ ⁠Networks Cannot Be Built After a Crisis Begins 3.⁠ ⁠FAOs Are Regional Experts, Not Generalists 4.⁠ ⁠Language and Culture Provide FAOs’ Unique Access 5. FAOs Are Raised by their Services but Operate in Joint and Interagency World
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9 months ago
1 hour 48 minutes 54 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#15 - MAJ Mike White
Major Mike White, Persian instructor at West Point, shares his journey with the U.S. Army, starting from his enlistment in 2002 to becoming a Foreign Area Officer (FAO). Major White elaborates on his experiences learning Dari at the Defense Language Institute, the significance of cultural immersion, and his deployments in Afghanistan and Nepal, where he navigated complex relationships and critical missions. He also underscores the value of writing skills, adaptability, and family resilience. The narrative highlights the power of networking within the FAO community, recounting personal anecdotes on how these connections have supported successful operations, including during the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. Major White reflects on his storied career and future plans to continue contributing to the community, leveraging his language skills and cultural expertise.
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9 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes 58 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#14 - BG Brad Nicholson
In this episode of The Foreign Area Officer Podcast, Brigadier General Brad Nicholson from the U.S. Army Security Assistance Command, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama provides in-depth insights into the challenges and rewards of serving as a FAO, discusses the importance of mentorship, and offers guidance on navigating assignments, including dealing with the Exceptional Family Member Program (EFMP) challenges. The conversation also explores the evolving role of FAOs in global security contexts and the exciting future ahead for the FAO community.
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10 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 11 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#13 - LTC(P) David Bradley
In this episode of the Foreign Area Officer podcast, I sit down with LTC(P) David Bradley, former Chinese instructor at the United States Military Academy, to explore the intricate dynamics of China's relationships and ambitions. We delve into the one China policy, the complex history and current situations in Hong Kong and Taiwan, and the broader security environment in Eastern Asia. Gain insights into U.S. foreign policy, military strategy, and the crucial role of foreign area officers in navigating the challenging geopolitical landscape posed by China’s actions and strategies. This episode provides valuable insights for comprehending global diplomatic and economic interactions involving China.
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10 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 44 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#12 - LTC Will Hogan
Currently serving as the HQDA LNO to the French Army, LTC William Hogan, shares his unique experiences in language learning, IRT in Brazil, the interagency dynamics from Afghanistan to Haiti, and the political challenges as Army Attaché in Mexico and Nicaragua. Hogan reflects on his father's history in WWII as America's youngest tank battalion commander and the importance of preserving military records, which he captures in his recent book Task Force Hogan: The World War II Tank Battalion That Spearheaded the Liberation of Europe.The discussion highlights the complexities and adaptability required in various international assignments, cultural sensitivity, and the importance of interdepartmental and multinational cooperation.
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11 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 43 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#11 - BG Richard and Teri Quirk
Is there a path to General Officer for U.S. Army FAOs?   In this episode Brigadier General Richard Quirk and his wife Teri explore both professional and personal aspects of FAO careers in the Middle East and North Africa. BG Quirk delves into his journey through the FAO Corps, emphasizing the significance of writing skills, maintaining ethical standards, and transitioning into higher ranks. Teri shares her perspectives on balancing family life with the demands of FAO assignments and her experience working as Community Liaison Officer at the embassy. Join us as we talk about the unique career challenges and responsibilities of FAOs, the importance of adaptability, and the ethical standards they maintain. This episode also explores the dynamics of FAO family life, the challenges of raising children internationally, and the significance of a positive mindset. Essential listening for current FAOs and those considering an international military career.   01:28 Journey to Becoming a FAO 03:47 Choosing the Middle East Pre-9/11 04:36 Impact of 9/11 on FAO Career 05:44 Experiences in the Middle East 06:54 Perceptions of America in the Middle East 13:19 Living and Learning in Tunisia 18:02 Transition to Paris and AFRICOM 20:16 Challenges of Standing Up AFRICOM 26:21 Importance of Writing Skills for FAOs 32:14 First Country Team Assignment in Jordan 32:30 Teri's Role as Community Liaison Officer 35:48 Navigating Embassy Life and Housing 38:26 Ethics and Humility in FAO Career 46:29 General Officer Steering Committee (GOSC) 47:49 FAO Training and Career Progression 48:19 Collaborative Efforts and Key Allies 49:42 Current Focus Areas of the GOSC 49:52 Reviewing the FAO Training Pipeline 52:26 Alignment with National Defense Strategies 53:10 Opportunities for FAO Research 54:24 MEL 4 Pilot Program and Training Flexibility 55:26 Balancing Training Objectives and Resources 57:10 NDS Specific Challenges and Regional Specialization 01:01:19 The Role of FAOs in Counteracting Malign Influence 01:04:03 Communicating GOSC Objectives to the FAO Community 01:09:33 Transitioning from Colonel to General Officer 01:18:23 Supporting FAO Families and Spouses 01:28:35 Final Thoughts and Parting Message
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11 months ago
1 hour 33 minutes 44 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
#10 - MAJ Sergio Salazar
In this episode of The Foreign Area Officer Podcast, Major Sergio Salazar recounts his journey from Puerto Rico to becoming a Spanish instructor at the United States Military Academy. He reflects on his early life, influenced by his brothers and a USMC father, his ambitions in law enforcement and mixed martial arts, and his eventual career in the Army. Major Salazar discusses his extensive deployments in Europe, participation in military exercises such as Atlantic Resolve and Cobra Gold, and his path to becoming a Foreign Area Officer (FAO). We also discuss West Point's foreign language program and Projects Day, emphasizing the inclusion of security cooperation-focused projects and international collaborations, and the crucial role of cultural and linguistic expertise in military operations. 
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1 year ago
1 hour 17 minutes 35 seconds

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast
The Foreign Area Officer Podcast. Interviews with Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine officers who serve as Foreign Area Officers (FAOs) throughout the world. This podcast serves to build a community of mentors and narratives to help build the community and communicate the value of the FAO corps to senior leaders in the interagency community.