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The Edge of Work

Al Dea

179 episodes

2 days ago

Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Author of Don't Be Yourself: Why Authenticity Is Overrated (and What to Do Instead). In this episode, Tomas challenges the conventional wisdom that authenticity is always a virtue, especially in leadership. He explains why showing up as your “whole self” can backfire, and why striving to bring your best self is a more powerful approach. Along the way, Tomas connects these ideas to his broader research on technology, AI, and the future of work. Links Website:...

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Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Author of Don't Be Yourself: Why Authenticity Is Overrated (and What to Do Instead). In this episode, Tomas challenges the conventional wisdom that authenticity is always a virtue, especially in leadership. He explains why showing up as your “whole self” can backfire, and why striving to bring your best self is a more powerful approach. Along the way, Tomas connects these ideas to his broader research on technology, AI, and the future of work. Links Website:...

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Episodes (20/179)

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Developing Better Managers Through Research at The Google School for Leaders

Caleb Gatlin and Becca Anzalone work at The Google School for Leaders. During this conversation, they discuss how Google is reshaping leadership development by embedding research and user feedback directly into learning design. Caleb and Becca share insights from the Learning Advisors program, a global network of managers and employees who provide real-time input to shape programs and tools. They explore how feedback is often misunderstood, why trust is the foundation of effective career conv...

1 week ago

36 minutes

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Work in Progress: Alexis Fink on AI, HR, and Rethinking the Future of Work

Alexis Fink is a Principal at Propeller Insight. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Alexis Fink (formerly VP People Analytics & Workforce Strategy, Meta), joins Al Dea to explore some of the biggest headlines on talent, HR AI, and the future of work. Together, they discuss how AI is exposing the “BS economy” of meaningless work, what the future of HR could look like as the function reimagines its role, and why so many corporate AI pilots are failing to deliver results. From ...

2 weeks ago

49 minutes

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Work In Progress: The BS Job Economy, CEO Narratives, and AI Adoption Transformation with Dr. Shonna Waters

In this Work in Progress segment of The Edge of Work, Al Dea is joined by Dr. Shonna Waters, CEO and Co-Founder of Fractional Insights, to explore the intersection of AI, leadership, and the future of work. Together, they assess the possibility of “BS Jobs," debate what a “decline in conscientiousness” really means, and examine why CEO narratives about AI adoption don’t always match reality. Links Shonna’s Website: https://www.fractionalinsights.ai/ Shonna’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedi...

3 weeks ago

47 minutes

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Why AI Adoption Fails - And How Leaders Can Get It Right with Greg Shove

Greg Shove is the CEO of Section AI, a company helping enterprises and teams become truly AI-enabled. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Greg shares his journey of pivoting Section from an online business school to an AI-powered transformation partner. He discusses why most companies are struggling to adopt AI, the mistakes leaders make when rolling it out, and why the challenge is less about technology and more about change management. Greg also explains how AI is reshaping knowledge work,...

4 weeks ago

37 minutes

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Small Groups, Shared Purpose: Rethinking How to Lead Change with Greg Satell

Greg Satell is the Author of Cascades: How to Create a Movement That Drives Transformational Change. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Greg joins Al Dea to explore why most organizational change efforts fail and how leaders can spark lasting transformation. Drawing from his front-row experience during Ukraine’s Orange Revolution and 15 years of research, Greg shares the power of “small groups, loosely connected, united by a shared purpose” to drive cultural and behavioral change. He explai...

1 month ago

32 minutes

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Work In Progress: AI Pilots, The Employer-Employee Contract and the Future of Management Consulting with Meg Bear

Meg Bear is the Co-Host of The Meg and Amy Show. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Meg joins Al Dea to unpack the biggest workplace and technology headlines shaping the future of work. Together, they explore the implications of AI Pilots failing to deliver results, what automation and AI could mean for consulting firms, the potential for a “white collar gig economy” and the evolving nature of the employer-employee contract. From AI pilots failing to deliver results, to what automatio...

1 month ago

52 minutes

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How to Lead Change During Uncertain Times

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea explores what it really takes to lead change in today’s fast-moving workplace. Drawing from over 25 interviews with senior talent and learning leaders, Al shares six practical, people-centered practices to help leaders guide change more effectively. Whether it's launching a new initiative, navigating a transformation, or adapting to constant disruption, Al walks through a handful of tactical ways to lead with empathy, clarity, and confidence to...

1 month ago

23 minutes

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Why Resilience Isn’t Enough: Tasha Eurich on Becoming Shatterproof

Tasha Eurich is a Principal of The Eurich Group, a New York Times bestselling author, and an executive coach to top leaders around the world. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Tasha joins Al Dea to discuss her latest book, Shatterproof: How to Thrive in a World of Constant Chaos and Why Resilience Alone Isn’t Enough. They explore why the traditional notion of resilience falls short in today’s workplace, how grit gaslighting holds high performers back, and why self-awareness and purpose are...

1 month ago

45 minutes

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Reimagining Learning in the Age of AI: Inside ServiceNow University with Jayney Howson

Jayney Howson is the Senior Vice President and Head of Global Learning & Development at ServiceNow, where she leads ServiceNow University, an innovative, AI-powered learning platform designed to unlock skill development at scale. In this episode Jayney joins Al Dea to discuss how learning is evolving in the age of AI, why human transformation is essential to business transformation, and how ServiceNow is reimagining learning across its entire ecosystem of employees, customers, and partner...

2 months ago

37 minutes

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The Priorities of Today’s Talent and Learning Leaders

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea shares early insights from his summer research interviews with 20+ senior talent and learning leaders at Fortune 1000 companies. He reveals four key themes shaping their top priorities today: leadership and manager development, AI-driven enablement, change and transformation, and systemic talent and learning. Al also shares insights into what leaders explores what leaders wish they could prioritize and what outdated practices they’re ready to s...

2 months ago

29 minutes

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Best Hits: The Future of L&D: Strategy, AI and Change with Dani Johnson (Redthread Research)

Note: This is a replay of one of our most popular episodes from this year Dani Johnson is the Co-Founder and Principal Analyst at RedThread Research. During this conversation, Dani shares some of her observations and insights from some of her recent conversations and research on the topic of L&D Strategy, the shifting role L&D has within organizations and the implications for learning and talent leaders. Dani also shares some of her thoughts on the potential implications of AI, the ev...

2 months ago

36 minutes

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Best Hits: Leadership and The AI Mindset with Conor Grennan

Note: This is a replay of one of the most popular episodes of 2025 Conor Grennan is the Dean of Students at NYU Stern and the Co-Founder and CEO of AI Mindset, an AI consulting firm. In this episode, Conor shares his insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping the workplace, leadership, and talent development. With a unique perspective from both academia and the corporate world, he discusses why AI adoption is more about mindset than technical skill, the role of HR and talent...

2 months ago

38 minutes

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Best Hits: Why Leaders Must Become Developers of Talent

Note: This is a replay episode of one of our most popular episodes of 2025 In this solo episode of The Edge of Work podcast, host Al Dea introduces a new approach to leadership: becoming developers of talent. Al explores how managers and leaders can embrace their roles in fostering employee growth and development in the day-to-day workflow, beyond formal training programs. By offering practical strategies, lightweight tools, and actionable insights, this episode provides listeners with a fres...

2 months ago

18 minutes

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Best Hits: Transformation in the Age of AI with Charlene Li

Note: This is a replay episode of one of the most popular episodes from the past year Charlene Li is an Entrepreneur, Consultant, Best-Selling Author and Keynote Speaker. As a longtime expert in studying emerging technologies and their impacts on society, business and leadership, Charlene has a keen eye for what’s new and next and it’s implications for business. In this episode, Charlene shares her insights on AI, emphasizing its role in commoditizing knowledge and fostering innovation. They ...

3 months ago

33 minutes

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Cultivating Influence: How to Lead Others and Stand out in The Workplace

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea unpacks a critical skill for today’s workplace: cultivating influence. Whether you're leading a bold change initiative or simply trying to align your team around a shared goal, your ability to influence others—without formal authority—is essential. Drawing from his experience as a facilitator and consultant, Al shares a practical framework of four principles: earning trust, demonstrating credibility, navigating organizational dynamics, and enga...

3 months ago

25 minutes

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Designing Learning That Sticks: Learning and Leadership Development Insights from The Google School for Leaders

Maya Razon drives Learning & Leadership Development at the Google School for Leaders. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Maya shares how her team designs transformative learning experiences for Google’s global leaders. She explores how the “inner game” of leadership, physical space, and AI integration are reshaping how leaders learn and grow in a rapidly changing world. From leveraging neuroaesthetics in learning environments to adapting leadership programs for social impact innovators,...

3 months ago

29 minutes

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Transforming Leadership Development in The Age of AI

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, host Al Dea explores how leadership development can evolve in the age of Artificial Intelligence. Drawing from his keynote presentations and conversations with talent and business leaders, Al shares now is the time to reimagine how we think about leadership development in a rapidly changing world of work. During this episode, Al offers 4 principles for how leadership development professionals can think and working differently to reshape and take advan...

3 months ago

21 minutes

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Work In Progress: AI and the Workplace featuring Phil Kirschner and Steve Hunt

In this month’s “Work in Progress” segment, Al Dea is joined by Steve Hunt and Phil Kirschner to unpack three timely topics related to the intersection of talent and the workplace: Moderna’s decision to merge HR and IT, an experiment AI + teamwork experiment from P&G, and whether AI is wiping out the first rung of the career ladder. Together, they explore the implications of AI on job design, team dynamics, early career talent, and the future of work,and what leaders can do to prepare. Li...

3 months ago

45 minutes

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Workforce Innovation at Salesforce in the Age of Artificial Intelligence with Ruth Hickin (VP, Workforce Innovation, Salesforce)

Ruth Hickin is Vice President of Workforce Innovation at Salesforce. In this episode, Ruth unpacks her team's efforts around digital labor, and shares how her team is preparing Salesforce’s workforce for the age of AI by investing in internal talent through skilling, career mobility, and human-centered design. During our conversation, Ruth unpacks the philosophy behind Career Connect, an AI-powered internal talent marketplace, and how it’s enabling employees to explore personalized career pat...

4 months ago

22 minutes

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Takeaways and Insights From ATD ICE '25

In this episode, The Edge of Work Podcast host Al Dea provides an informal recap of his time at ATD ICE ‘25 in Washington D.C. During this episode, Al covers the basics of ATD ICE, some of the programming and content themes, highlights from the expo floor and vendors, and some of his reflections from the conversations he had with talent and learning leaders. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/Website: https://www.al-dea.com/Career Experimentation: https://alsnewsletter.subst...

4 months ago

29 minutes