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The Discourse
The Discourse
64 episodes
8 hours ago
The Discourse takes a look at the ”who, what, when, why, and how” of Alberta politics, hosted by longtime senior staffers Cheryl Oates and Erika Barootes.
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The Discourse takes a look at the ”who, what, when, why, and how” of Alberta politics, hosted by longtime senior staffers Cheryl Oates and Erika Barootes.
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The Discourse
Carney’s First Budget: Bold Bet or Train Wreck?
Mark Carney drops his first budget and we’re split: Cheryl gives it a 7/10 for a disciplined comms rollout and “build-through-the-downturn” strategy; Erika fires back with a 4/10 over record debt, fuzzy capital/operating splits, and weak relief for real people. We unpack what the naysayers actually mean, why “we’re building houses” lands better than tax tinkering, and how this budget boxes in both the CPC and NDP on cuts, immigration, and social programs. Then: the Ottawa plot twist—Chris Dontermont crosses the floor as rumours swirl of more MPs ahead of Polievre’s leadership review. Plus a brutal week in Alberta: an education bill dropped while the Premier’s abroad, and the Auditor General won’t be renewed mid-AHS probe. We argue over Bill 6’s literacy testing, the optics of the AG timing, and why the first stab at boundary redistribution has both of us grinding our teeth.
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8 hours ago
49 minutes

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UCP Tipping Point?
The UCP just used the nuclear option: legislating 51,000 Alberta teachers back to work, imposing a four-year deal, and wrapping it all in the notwithstanding clause. Cheryl calls it a slippery slope for Charter rights; Erika argues the government took a high-risk hit to end a stalemate and promises a “reset” on class size and complexity... if they actually deliver. We break down what’s real, what’s rhetoric, fresh polling that shows UCP support slipping, and whether a general strike is a bluff or a live wire. Then: recall politics boomerangs on the UCP as Education Minister Demetrios Nicolaides faces a petition under their own looser rules. Plus, Thomas Lukaszuk’s “Forever Canadian” petition accidentally hands separatists the referendum oxygen they craved (yikes). We close on what happens next: task forces vs. caps, data vs. delay, and how both sides can win (or torch) the post-strike moment. 
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6 days ago
48 minutes

The Discourse
Work-to-Rule, Pay-to-Play? Alberta’s New Public Service Realities Explained
The Alberta Legislature is back, and Premier Danielle Smith is swinging at everyone in sight. This week, Cheryl and Erika debate the government’s plan to legislate teachers back to work, the unprecedented strike that led here, and what a “work-to-rule” classroom could look like for Alberta families. Plus, they dive into the province’s move toward two-tier healthcare and whether paying privately for MRIs and bloodwork will fix the system or quietly bleed it dry. And: the so-called “Wyant Report” the Premier’s office claims to be cleared of wrongdoing in Alberta’s health procurement scandal — except it wasn't. Cheryl unpacks what the report actually says, why journalists missed the story, and how the government’s spin turned into a masterclass in message control. 
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2 weeks ago
51 minutes

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Pipelines & Picket Lines - The Fights Danielle Smith Can't Afford to Lose
Cheryl and Erika dive into Alberta’s two biggest brawls: Smith’s pipeline push and a teachers’ strike that’s testing parents’ patience (and the UCP’s polling). We unpack the real differences between TMX and the North Coast pipeline idea, what Premier Eby says is at risk in B.C., and why “fighting forever” might be the Alberta Premier’s political sweet spot. Bonus: the Grey Cup “grand bargain,” Keystone as a bargaining chip, and whether Ottawa will blink. Then we pivot to classrooms: hiring promises vs. classroom reality, what the ATA really wants (hint: more than a wage line), and why public sentiment could decide the outcome faster than any bargaining table can. We wrap with Alberta’s new license-plate pageant (Strong and Free meets shiny distraction) and a few spicy one-liners you’ll want to steal for your next dinner debate. 
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3 weeks ago
50 minutes

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Why the Alberta teachers strike could change everything
Classrooms across Alberta could go quiet on October 6 as 50,000 teachers prepare to strike after rejecting a government offer of 12% over four years. We cut through the spin: pay vs. working conditions, class sizes, and what “more teachers and EAs” actually changes for kids. We also unpack the government’s stopgap—$150 per child under 12, per week—and whether that helps real families scrambling for care or just buys political cover. Then we zoom out: how big strikes reshape public opinion, what usually ends them, and why tone matters (including a viral town-hall moment where a moderator told a teen his parents should “spank him”). Finally, we check in on a slow-burning healthcare procurement controversy and why promised “interim reports” rarely see the light of day. 
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1 month ago
48 minutes

The Discourse
Who Asked for This? ‘CAN’ Licences + Carney vs Poilievre
Alberta wants to stamp “CAN” on your driver’s licence. Is this bold reform or a busywork boondoggle? We rip into the talking points, the "election integrity” spin, and the weird real-world places this could follow you (hotel desks, gym sign-ups, you name it), and does a digital wallet actually fix problems, and a three-letter badge doesn’t? Then we head to Ottawa, where Carney vs. Poilievre returns to center stage: has the tone shifted, is the “austerity + investment” budget a masterstroke or a trap, and is the honeymoon officially dead, or just getting interesting? We finish on Alberta’s municipal elections: parties on the ballot, polls in your feed, and a big shrug from voters. Who wins when nobody’s watching? 
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1 month ago
38 minutes

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Has Mark Carney won over Danielle Smith?
Danielle Smith dropped her “Three Bad Laws” video before even sitting down with PM Mark Carney, then walked out sounding… optimistic. No heavy-oil pipeline on the major projects list, yet the tone flipped. Did she hear real movement on an emissions-cap rethink, EV timelines, or CCUS, and what does “climate competitiveness” actually signal? We unpack the strategy behind the Poilievre-style video, what it mobilizes (and what it doesn’t), and why the post-meeting vibes matter for Alberta. Then we wade into the week’s other bonfire: immigration. We separate math from memes (including that viral “15 million” claim), look at what TFWs actually account for, and ask how Alberta can match labour needs without lighting the culture war. Plus, inside the Alberta Next roadshow—consultation or content factory? If you want sharp, fact-grounded takes without the shouting, this one’s your episode.
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1 month ago
49 minutes

The Discourse
Is Alberta Policing Porn - Or Just Pulling Politics?
It's been a jam-packed political week in Alberta and Ottawa. On this episode of The Discourse: The Book Ban Backlash — Alberta’s new “age-appropriate” policy sparks outrage as Edmonton Public Schools pulls 200 titles, including The Handmaid’s Tale. What’s censorship, what’s politics, and what’s really at stake? Teachers vs. the Government — With a strike looming, we break down what teachers want, what the government has offered, and how parents will be caught in the middle. Pierre Poilievre’s “Stand On Guard” Principle — Is Canada headed for Wild West politics, or is this just the latest Conservative stunt? Expect fireworks: Cheryl calls out government overreach, Erika goes deep on union politics, and the two clash over whether Alberta schools are truly in crisis. Check out Makami College's Applied Politics program here: https://makamicollege.com/programs/
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2 months ago
53 minutes

The Discourse
UCP Defectors Expose Danielle Smith: The PC Comeback & Skeletons in the Closet
Two former UCP MLAs spill the tea in an explosive conversation about why they ditched Danielle Smith’s party, and why they’re resurrecting the once-mighty Progressive Conservative brand as Alberta’s next political force. From backroom betrayals to policy blunders, they dish on everything the Premier is doing wrong, the skeletons she’d rather keep hidden, and how the Alberta Party is getting a very familiar rebrand. ⚠️ Warning: Pete Guthrie’s Wi-Fi didn’t quite survive the UCP exodus. His choppy video looks like it’s buffering straight out of 2006. (Don’t worry, the tea still pours scalding hot.)
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2 months ago
51 minutes 49 seconds

The Discourse
Are the UCP in trouble? The By-Election Signals You Missed
The votes are in!- and while the UCP held ground, are there cracks showing? In this episode, we dig into Alberta’s latest by-elections and what they actually reveal about the political landscape. Nenshi’s landslide may have stolen headlines, but the real story is buried in Edmonton-Ellerslie and Olds-Didsbury-Three Hills. Is the UCP leaking support in key bases? Is the NDP losing its grip on Edmonton? And what should we make of the Republicans pulling 18% in rural Alberta? Cheryl and Erika break it down — the good, the bad, and the quietly alarming for all three major parties. Also in this episode: 🗣️ Danielle Smith’s New Panel: Listening Tour or Soft Separatism?We dive into the latest “public consultation” from the Premier. The questions are leading, the framing is loaded, and the outcomes feel predetermined. Is this a legitimate engagement — or a reheated Fair Deal fantasy? 🧬 Inside Alberta’s Biomanufacturing PlaybookAndrew MacIsaac of Applied Pharmaceutical Innovation joins us to explain how Alberta’s chemistry advantage could make us a national health security leader. From Turkish Tylenol to trade tariffs, he lays out the case for why homegrown pharma is the next economic frontier.
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4 months ago
49 minutes

The Discourse
Teachers, Tariffs & Turf Wars
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl Oates and Erika Barootes tackle three of the biggest political stories in Alberta, Canada — and beyond. 🎓 Segment 1: Teachers on the EdgeThe Alberta Teachers' Association delivers a stunning 99% strike vote. Cheryl defends their demands for classroom caps and support funding, while Erika goes off on unions and PD days. It’s heated, it's personal, and it’s the debate Alberta parents are already having. 🌍 Segment 2: G7 Summit BreakdownKananaskis gets the world stage. From Mark Carney’s statesmanlike debut to Danielle Smith's pro-oil charm offensive, we break down who won the global optics game.  📊 Segment 3: By-Election PredictionsWith three Alberta ridings up for grabs, we make bold predictions on whether the UCP can gain ground in Edmonton — and whether the Republican Party of Alberta is a punchline or a potential spoiler. Spoiler alert: Erika promises to shotgun a beer if they break 20%.
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4 months ago
44 minutes 1 second

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How To Actually Build A Pipeline
Four major pipelines. Billions in lost investment. A decade of political fights. And still, Canada can’t seem to build energy infrastructure. On this episode of The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika unpack why Canada keeps losing the pipeline wars and whether the political landscape may finally be shifting. With premiers suddenly talking about "economic corridors" and Mark Carney promising to fast-track projects, is there a narrow window for national energy projects to succeed? Joining the show is Gitane De Silva — former Deputy Minister in the Alberta government, former CEO of the Canada Energy Regulator, and someone who’s been inside the rooms where these make-or-break decisions happen. She pulls back the curtain on: Why so many projects (like Northern Gateway and Energy East) failed How First Nations consultation has (and hasn't) evolved What it would take to truly approve a major project in just two years The "chicken-and-egg" problem stopping private sector proponents from stepping up Plus: The political evolution of Wab Kinew, David Eby, and Danielle Smith on energy Cheryl and Erika debate who really "got a pipeline built" Why Alberta keeps demanding pipelines — and why the rest of Canada often tunes them out The famous bitumen bubble that still lives rent-free in Erika's head Advice to premiers ahead of the G7 summit — and how Trump’s temper still looms large
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4 months ago
52 minutes 10 seconds

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Who Owns the Missing 12%? Carrie Tait Finally Answers the Big Question
This week, we delve into the scandal that has rocked Alberta politics for more than a year — and we bring in the reporter who broke the story. The Globe and Mail's Carrie Tait joins us to break down: How the AHS scandal first came to light Why new delays in the government's investigation are raising eyebrows What journalists actually do behind the scenes to get these stories published Why this story still matters, and how far it could still go PLUS: We break down this week's First Ministers meeting in Saskatoon, where Mark Carney continues to rewrite the script on federal-provincial relations. Danielle Smith has pivoted — and looks surprisingly comfortable playing national stateswoman. Can she keep it up? AND: A rare stumble for the Carney Liberals: the government loses a House vote — but does it matter? If you want to understand where Alberta politics is heading — and how Ottawa and Edmonton are suddenly getting along — you won’t want to miss this one.
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5 months ago
53 minutes 56 seconds

The Discourse
Ballsy Throne Speeches and Banned Books
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika take you inside one of the most politically packed weeks in Canada—from royal pageantry to banned books to the high-stakes First Ministers' Meeting. 🫅 The King Reads the Script. Carney Steals the Show.For the first time since 1977, the monarch delivers Canada's Speech from the Throne. Cheryl and Erika break down the symbolism, the strategy, and whether Carney’s curtain-raising moment can carry him through a budget delay. 📚 Book Bans or Political Spin?Alberta’s government announces it's pulling “sexually explicit” books from schools. Erika says it's about protecting kids. Cheryl says it’s a smokescreen for censorship. Things get spicy. 🗳️ By-Elections Are On: Nenshi, Republicans, and Riding RealitiesThree Alberta by-elections are set. The NDP’s new leader is running. A separatist party is gaining steam. And conservatives are quietly eyeing gains in Edmonton. We name the ridings, the players, and the stakes. 🤝 First Ministers Meeting: Can Unity Survive the Photo Op?Western premiers show surprising alignment on economic corridors—but can that consensus hold in front of the cameras in Ottawa? Cheryl reflects on what’s real, what’s spin, and who’s most likely to break ranks for a soundbite. 💸 Travel Budget BlowbackA million-dollar increase in government travel—Erika wants to see ROI. Cheryl wants accountability. Both agree: this is one story that could snowball if the receipts aren’t tight.
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5 months ago
49 minutes 51 seconds

The Discourse
Separation, Scandal & Sabotage
This week on The Discourse, Erika Barootes and Cheryl unpack the two dominant themes in Alberta politics: scandal and separation—with a healthy side of political theater. We start with a deep dive into the UCP health procurement scandal. Alberta Health Services’ former CEO, Athena Mentzelopoulos, dropped a $1.7M lawsuit accusing the government of shady dealings with private surgical contracts. Now, former Chief of Staff Marshall Smith is punching back with a $12M defamation suit against Mentzelopoulos and the Globe and Mail. Is it a desperate move or a dangerous miscalculation? Then it’s on to Alberta’s separatist movement. Between the Republican Party of Alberta, the Alberta Prosperity Project, and Thomas Lukaszuk’s pro-Canada counter-petition, the province’s political fringes are making noise. But are they making sense? Erika and Cheryl discuss public sentiment, the real economic risks, and whether this movement has any legs beyond Facebook pages and town halls. We wrap with some spicy commentary on upcoming by-elections—especially the one in Olds-Didsbury-Three Hills, where Republican leader Cam Davies is running—and a questionable “MLA Dashboard” that outs politicians as separatists… according to who, exactly? 🔑 Topics Covered: UCP health procurement scandal: who’s suing whom and why Why Marshall Smith’s lawsuit might have backfired Separation anxiety: the rise of Alberta's independence movement Thomas Lukaszuk's surprising re-entry into the chat Political strategy vs. personal brand-building The most awkward "scorecard" in Alberta politics By-election battles that could change the game
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5 months ago
44 minutes 22 seconds

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Danielle Smith’s Tightrope: Can She Keep Alberta and the UCP United?
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika go deeper into the wildfire of Western alienation that's setting inboxes, headlines, and political panels ablaze. With new separatist parties gaining steam and Danielle Smith refusing to pick a side, the Premier may be running out of room to maneuver—and that could be big trouble for the UCP come election time. The hosts break down: Why Alberta’s political culture is uniquely flammable—and why Danielle Smith keeps adding fuel. How a new federal cabinet and a looming by-election are turning up the heat on Premier Smith to finally pick a side. What the Saskatchewan NDP is doing right by reframing the separation debate—and why Alberta’s NDP should take notes. How government chaos inside the Alberta legislature is being buried by chaos outside it, and what consequential bills are slipping through the cracks. Plus: deputy minister shuffles, federal cabinet reactions, and a very honest trip down memory lane on the 10-year anniversary of Alberta’s NDP win. If you’re trying to keep up with the current pace of Alberta politics… good luck. But start here.
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5 months ago
45 minutes 47 seconds

The Discourse
Albertastan - Danielle Smith's Dangerous Dance with Separatism
This week on The Discourse, Cheryl and Erika wade into the political firestorm Premier Danielle Smith kicked off with her live address on Alberta’s sovereignty. Cheryl opens with a scathing monologue on why Smith’s refusal to outright reject separation has real consequences — politically, economically, and reputationally. Erika counters that Smith’s move is about getting ahead of grassroots frustration, not fuelling separatism. Sparks fly as they unpack what it means to lower the referendum threshold, who’s really behind the push for independence, and whether Smith is preserving democracy or playing footsie with Take Back Alberta. From there, your hosts tackle: Whether Alberta’s “Fair Deal 2.0” will be an actual educational tool — or just more grievance theatre. Naheed Nenshi’s fiery “just do it” dare to Smith, and why Cheryl thinks it’s playing with fire. The Carney-Trump Oval Office meeting: why both hosts were (cautiously) impressed. Smith vs. Ford: two premiers, two very different tones on working with Prime Minister Carney. What the Alberta NDP’s new federal opt-out means — and whether 89% is really a strong number for Nenshi. And a preview of three coming by-elections in Alberta: what each party’s strategy might be, and whether the UCP will continue to drag out the timeline for Nenshi’s seat. Listen now for a fiery debate on democracy, discontent, and the future of Alberta.
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6 months ago
53 minutes 55 seconds

The Discourse
The Election That Everyone Lost
Canada has spoken… kind of. The Liberals are back with a minority, the Conservatives won the West but lost the race, and the NDP? Well, Jagmeet Singh lost his seat and resigned. This week, Cheryl and Erika are unfiltered, exhausted, and deeply in their feels. They dig into: Why this was an election where every party lost something Poilievre’s future: is he safe from the Conservative firing squad? How the NDP holds the balance of power despite a devastating loss The East-West divide: is Canada more fractured than ever? What Danielle Smith’s post-election statement reveals about her strategy Why separatist talk in Alberta is growing louder—and riskier Plus: the subtle power moves behind leadership speculation, the role of advance votes, and what Mark Carney must do in his first 90 days to calm the country down. This is the episode where no one gets spared—except maybe Donald Trump, who might be the only person grinning at the results.
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6 months ago
49 minutes 2 seconds

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If Carney Wins, Does Smith Drop the Writ?
The last week of the federal campaign is anything but sleepy—Cheryl and Erika go full tilt on everything from budget bombs to Alberta bombshells. 👀 Danielle Smith is absolutely thinking about an early election. We break down the signs, the strategy, and why a 2026 Alberta vote could be coming faster than anyone’s ready for.  Also in this episode: 💰 Carney drops a banker’s budget— billions more than Trudeau. Is it bold leadership or the most expensive rebrand in Canadian politics? ✂️ Poilievre’s promises: fiscal fantasy or ruthless efficiency? 🧃 Jagmeet’s debate strategy—was he heckling or auditioning for Question Period? 💔 Alberta separatism gets airtime again—why Danielle won’t kill the idea, and how it’s all tied to her next big political move. 😶‍🌫️ Where is Naheed Nenshi? And is silence a strategy? 💥 This one’s for the politics nerds, the Alberta watchers, and anyone wondering if the next campaign is already quietly underway.
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6 months ago
42 minutes 56 seconds

The Discourse
Behind the Podium: How Political Debates Are Really Won (and Lost)
It’s federal debate week, so we’re taking you inside the room where it happens — no, not the stage — the prep room. This week, Cheryl and Erika trade war stories from decades of political debate prep, sharing what really goes into those make-or-break moments on the campaign trail. From binders and body language to one-liners and last-minute nerves, we unpack how leaders get ready, what success actually looks like, and why sometimes it’s not what you say — it’s how you look when someone else is saying it. In this episode: 🎯 What campaigns really want from a debate 🧠 Debate prep secrets: sparring partners, mantras, and muscle memory 📉 Debate disasters and the iconic “Math is hard” moment 📈 What’s at stake for Carney, Poilievre, and Singh 📸 Why the first 15 minutes matter most — and how “debate face” can make or break you 🧥 Rachel vs. Danielle: was the matching blue suit a coincidence or a psych-out? Plus: Cheryl admits to rolling her eyes at Danielle Smith’s 2023 closer (only to admit it worked), Erika confesses to smuggling Jameson into the green room, and both hosts reveal the high-pressure coaching strategies that shape how Canada’s political leaders show up on stage. 🎧 Whether you’re a debate junkie or a casual voter, this is your backstage pass to the most-watched hour in any campaign. Subscribe & follow for new episodes every Thursday (except when we break our own rules).📱 YouTube | Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Instagram | X | TikTok
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6 months ago
50 minutes 23 seconds

The Discourse
The Discourse takes a look at the ”who, what, when, why, and how” of Alberta politics, hosted by longtime senior staffers Cheryl Oates and Erika Barootes.