In this episode of The Conversation, best-selling author Anne Lamott talks about her newest book, Somehow: Thoughts on Love, her relationship with her son and grandson, and connects with Amanda on her earlier work, Bird by Bird, which greatly impacted Amanda’s sobriety journey. Anne addresses moments from her past when she unintentionally hurt others and offers insights into navigating tough moments. Additionally, Anne shares the impact and influence of her spiritual beliefs and the significance of self-love throughout the healing process. 

In This Episode:  

• [2:38] Anne talks about the gift of sobriety
• [11:15] Amanda talks about the hope the book Bird by Bird gave her
• [17:56] Anne discusses the context of her new book, Somehow: Thoughts on Love, released on April 9th, 2024
• [30:13] Anne describes her methods of connecting to her higher power and helpful sayings that relate to her sobriety mindset 
• [34:44] Stories and personal life examples from Anne’s new book 
• [44.24] Lessons Anne has learned from life’s mistakes
• [47:09] Thoughts on recovery and how the earth is forgiveness school

Key Takeaways:

• Anne Lamott’s journey includes making mistakes, writing, recovery, and self-love. 
• We have the opportunity to determine our own paths, lean into forgiveness, and move forward. 

Biography: Anne Lamott is the author of twenty books, including the New York Times bestsellers Help, Thanks, Wow, Dusk, Night, Dawn, Traveling Mercies, and Bird by Bird, as well as seven novels. A recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship and an inductee into the California Hall of Fame, she lives in Northern California with her family. 

Resources:
Amazon - Purchase the Book - Somehow: Thoughts on Love
Thoughts on Love Book and Tour  
Book Reporter - Website
Anne Lamott on Instagram
Anne Lamott on Facebook
Anne Lamott on X

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Amanda reunites with her friend, actress, writer, producer, and singer Billie Piper. They reminisce about their shared experiences and beginnings in the UK - where they both started their professional careers as teenagers. Their conversation includes Billie’s latest project, the Netflix movie Scoop, inspired by the infamous interview of Prince Andrew. Amanda and Billie discuss the complicated journey of parenthood, sharing insights on the challenges of raising children in today's world. From contrasting parenting styles to the delicate balance of co-parenting , Amanda and Billie reflect on the universal struggle to not "screw up" their kids. 

 

IN THIS EPISODE: 

• [1:57] Amanda and Billie catch up after 20 years. They reflect on their public-facing careers and how life has changed for them.  
• [13:09] Discussion of Billie’s accomplishments and discussion of I Hate Suzie
• [18:24] Discussion of Billie’s new move, Scoop
• [24:00] Billie discusses her family, and Amanda and Billie discuss the various ways of parenting
• [31:46] Co-parenting and not having your same values and gauging what is age-appropriate for your child
• [39:31] Raising boys versus girls
• [45:41] Billie talks about her future 

 

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• Career paths, autonomy, and personal narratives
• Making creative choices and being guided by your own interests
• Parenting and life reflections 
• Telling your own stories 

 

RESOURCES:

Billie Piper - Instagram

Billie Piper - Website

Official Teaser - SCOOP - Netflix

 

BIOGRAPHY: 

Billie Piper is an Olivier Award-winning actress, singer, writer, and producer. She is known globally for her work on Doctor Who, Secret Diary of a Call Girl, I Hate Suzie, and countless other projects. 

Scoop: Inspired by real events, Scoop is the inside account of the tenacious journalists that landed an earth-shattering interview - Prince Andrew's infamous BBC Newsnight appearance. From the tension of producer Sam McAlister’s (played by Billie Piper) high-stakes negotiations with Buckingham Palace all the way to Emily Maitlis’ (played by Gillian Anderson) jaw-dropping, forensic showdown with the Prince, Scoop takes us inside the story, with the women who would stop at nothing to get it. Scoop is now available on Netflix. 

 

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For the first time we are making the Conversation original TV series interviews available on the pod. This is part of a miniseries featuring the first guests to appear on the show. In this mini episode we feature Alicia Keys. We begin our conversation discussing how women perceive their body size and age. Alicia has a beautiful outlook on how a woman’s body perception can change with insight and a historical view. We also discussed the birth of her son, Egypt, and Alicia explains everything she learned about breastfeeding. IN THIS EPISODE: [00:32] Alicia and Amanda talk about how women perceive their body size and age [02:52] Alica discusses her body changing after she had her son [03:22] Alica’s response to breastfeeding and what she wasn’t told [05:52] How Alica came to choose her child's name [07:26] Alica reflects on her trip to Egypt [07:52] Alicia answers Amanda's rapid-fire questions KEY TAKEAWAYS: Vacationing alone can be liberating because you aren’t worried about another person’s happiness. Women are hard on themselves when it comes to body size and aging. Women need to give themselves a break and look on the inside. Before you melt down, getaway. You may not be able to travel to Egypt, but you can do a BandB in the next town. RESOURCES: https://www.amandadecadenet.com/ (Amanda de Cadenet - Website) https://www.instagram.com/amandadecadenet/ (Amanda de Cadenet - Instagram) https://www.facebook.com/aliciakeys/ (Alicia Keys - Facebook) https://www.instagram.com/aliciakeys/?hl=en (Alicia Keys - Instagram) ABOUT THIS PODCAST: The Conversation with Amanda de Cadenet is a groundbreaking series of weekly interviews featuring candid conversations with impactful thought leaders. Host Amanda de Cadenet provides a platform for raw and honest discussions on a wide variety of topics, from porn to politics. Visit https://www.amandadecadenet.com/ (amandadecadenet.com )to learn more and sign up for her newsletter. Follow Amanda on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amandadecadenet/ (@amandadecadenet). See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information. Get full access to The Conversation with Amanda de Cadenet at https://amandadecadenet.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4 (amandadecadenet.substack.com/subscribe)