Nathan Schneider (@ntnsndr), joins the podcast to discuss the need for accountable centralized structures in decentralized participation and the importance of designing governable spaces. 

9:12 - Ethics and power dynamics in emerging tech 15:07 - Democracy's decline in the digital domain 20:26 - Technology's illusion of power 21:40 - Decentralization and its varied definitions 24:59 - Balancing decentralization in blockchain governance 27:25 - Innovating governance in online networks 30:45 - The perils of running a social media platform 33:27 - Evolving governance models in DAOs 38:06 - Diverse and equitable tech ecosystems 41:31 - Decentralizing social media and public interest 46:06 - Nathan's new book, 'Governable Spaces'