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Talking Inclusion… With Geoff Barton
The Institute for Public Policy Research
30 episodes
4 days ago
A podcast from the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce What does truly inclusive education look like, and how can we make it better? Hosted by Geoff Barton, former general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) and chair of the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce, this series features conversations with parents, teachers, young people, and experts from across the UK. With support from Margaret Mulholland, SEN and Inclusion Policy Specialist at ASCL, the podcast asks what’s working, what’s not, and where change should begin. Talking Inclusion blends lived experience with policy insight
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A podcast from the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce What does truly inclusive education look like, and how can we make it better? Hosted by Geoff Barton, former general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) and chair of the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce, this series features conversations with parents, teachers, young people, and experts from across the UK. With support from Margaret Mulholland, SEN and Inclusion Policy Specialist at ASCL, the podcast asks what’s working, what’s not, and where change should begin. Talking Inclusion blends lived experience with policy insight
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Education
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"You’re against the clock and in the dark" with Beth and Michael
Talking Inclusion… With Geoff Barton
16 minutes 58 seconds
2 weeks ago
"You’re against the clock and in the dark" with Beth and Michael

In this episode, Margaret Mulholland is joined by parents Beth and Michael, who share their story navigating the SEND system for their four-year-old son. They discuss the long waits for diagnosis and EHCP assessment, the confusion around choosing between mainstream and specialist settings, and the lack of transparency that leaves many parents feeling unsupported and invisible in the process.

This conversation highlights a crucial truth: even families inside the system often can’t see the path ahead — a reminder of how urgently the process must change to put clarity, flexibility, and children’s needs first.

Talking Inclusion… With Geoff Barton
A podcast from the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce What does truly inclusive education look like, and how can we make it better? Hosted by Geoff Barton, former general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) and chair of the IPPR Inclusion Taskforce, this series features conversations with parents, teachers, young people, and experts from across the UK. With support from Margaret Mulholland, SEN and Inclusion Policy Specialist at ASCL, the podcast asks what’s working, what’s not, and where change should begin. Talking Inclusion blends lived experience with policy insight