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Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Dana Abbott and Bob Button
65 episodes
1 week ago
Contemporary topics and issues on competitive swimming are discussed by two experienced USA swim coaches and authors, with special guests most episodes, ranging from high school and college/club coaches to world-record holders and Olympians from various countries. Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com
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Contemporary topics and issues on competitive swimming are discussed by two experienced USA swim coaches and authors, with special guests most episodes, ranging from high school and college/club coaches to world-record holders and Olympians from various countries. Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com
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Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 67: Author/Coach Chuck Warner

Former Rutgers Head Coach and acclaimed swimming writer Chuck Warner (a frequent guest to Swim Talk A2B) has done it AGAIN. His latest book release, "How To Be A Great Swim Parent" is a compilation and distillation of topics and issues related to the parent-child-coach relationships the ASCA Hall of Fame coach has collected and refined over the years, and as 2024 NCAA Division II Coach of the Year Mickey Wender has remarked, "I can't imagine a better resource to help us focus on the 'right things' as we support the development of a young mind and body."

Join A2B hosts Bob and Dana in an illuminating (what? you thought we were going to say "fascinating"???) round-table discussion of a valuable slim volume that USA Swimming Board Member Coach Ira Klein says is "...an absolute joy to read...so critical to help educate new swim parents..."

You can get more details and info (and PURCHASE) this wonderfully enlightening book (and other great books by Coach Warner) at www.chuckwarnerbooks.com


Episode timeline:

00:01 – Disclaimer

01:09 – Chuck Warner Books

01:48 – Kelsie at The Jay

02:38 – Return of Chuck Warner

03:00 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

04:08 – The origins

06:52 – The Audience?

07:38 – Why competitive swimming?

09:12 – Support – Don’t Lead

13:27 – Our family’s swim journey

14:28 – Scenario

19:03 – The Henrys

19:32 – Swimming is hard

20:29 – Self-Image

24:50 – Attrition in the sport

26:36 – Effort over outcome

28:32 – Coaching is teaching

31:17 – Love difficult people…

35:40 – Goals

39:05 – Social Media addiction

49:25 – Carpools

50:26 – Book formats

52:25 – Team orders? (info@chuckwarnerbooks.com)

54:10 – John E. Davis 2extreme Dream (https://2xtreme.info/)

55:09 – Listening to kids

57:20 – Paraphrasing Samuel Langhorne Clemens

58:20 – Wrapping it up


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7 months ago
1 hour 58 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 66: George Block

We begin this episode with a lengthy recitation of achievements by this noted coach and educator, but here are some highlights, courtesy of ASCA:


Coaching Since: 1977
Northside Aquatics

  • Developed 52 Texas high school State (UIL) gold medalists.
  • Coached over 285 high school All-Americans.
  • USA Olympic Trials qualifiers in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000.
  • Produced 6 Olympians in three different sports (swimming, triathlon and pentathlon).
  • Olympic swimmers from 3 different countries (USA, Nicaragua and Algeria)

 

Coach George Block retired from the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio, Texas at the end of June 2009, where he served as the Director of Aquatics since 1977 and Assistant Director of Athletics since 1993. In that time, he developed the Northside Aquatic Center into an internationally recognized center for athlete development.


Email us at: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Timeline for this episode:


00:01 – Disclaimer

00:21 – George Block bio

02:10 – San Antonio drownings

05:28 – Benefits of the sport

07:07 – Cell phone vs. swim lessons

08:03 – Introducing George Block

08:33 – Long course water

10:20 – AAAA

14:40 – The “D” word

15:15 – Northside Swim Center

16:11 – Acronym overload

20:13 – Limited Texas options

24:38 – WSCA & anti-doping

30:32 – New testing technology

33:44 – Long-term consequences

34:55 – Pan Zhanle

35:35 – Team USA issues

39:22 – Mike Unger

44:48 – Training the world

47:55 – What hasn’t changed?

50:13 – Flunking retirement

54:59 – Wrapping it up


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9 months ago
56 minutes 12 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 65: Ira Klein, Sarasota Tsunami and USA Swimming

SARASOTA SWIM ACADEMY Head Coach Ira Klein, has coached 6 OLYMPIANS and over 40 USA, YMCA and COLLEGIATE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

He is an ASCA-certified Level 5 Coach, the highest level attainable with the American Swim Coaches Association. He was the first coach in the country to attain that level as a Senior, Age Group, and YMCA coach. He has more than four decades of teaching experience and coaching excellence.

Coach Ira Klein is from New York, graduating in 1975 from Queens College with a BA in Physical Education. He then did his graduate study in Exercise Science at the Univ. of Massachusetts. At Queens College Coach Ira lettered in both swimming and water polo.

Coaching has taken him around the country, including four years in Colorado at the Olympic Training Center creating a new Club Services department for USA Swimming. When he was ready to return to the coaching deck he decided to turn down all offers and return to Sarasota where he earlier headed the YMCA program for five years.

AMONG HIS COACHING CREDENTIALS ARE:

100% of all program graduating athletes have entered and attended college 65% of all program graduates attending college have received scholarships

Five time USA National Team Coach

Two time past President of the American Swim Coaches Association [ASCA]

Past Vice President of USA Swimming

ASCA Coach 'Gold Medal' Level; received for more than 20 years, as a National ‘Coaching Excellence’ award recipient.

Coached over 100 USA Swimming National, NCAA Collegiate, YMCA National, National Age Group and Junior Olympic; individual and team champions!

When asked what he enjoys most in swimming, the singular answer is "the ability to watch a young person achieve something, at any level, that they had never done before and learn that all is possible if they are willing to work for it."

Coach Ira can be reached at 941-928-SWIM (7946)

coachira@sarasotaswimacademy.org

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Email us: ⁠swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com⁠


Timeline for this episode

00:01 – Disclaimer

00:24 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

01:23 – Ira Klein on swim parenting

03:48 – Eddie Reese book

04:18 – Introducing Ira Klein

04:43 – Sarasota Tsunami Swim Team

08:35 – Cindy’s Sue Nami Swims

09:07 – Hurricanes

11:00 – USAS Club Services

13:15 – Coaching up the parents

17:25 – USAS staffing

22:47 – Team USA trials & camps

27:35 – Looking within for a CEO?

28:33 – Going coach-owned?

31:24 – AAU to USAS w/ASCA

32:33 – Professional attire

33:50 – What isn’t new?

36:36 – Terry Laughlin

40:20 – Ira’s coaching journey

43:55 – Create the best environment

50:04 – Surviving the long haul

54:04 – Wrapping it up


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10 months ago
55 minutes 14 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 64: Jon Cleveland, Canadian Olympic Medalist and Myrtha Pools

Three- time Canadian Olympian Jon Cleveland has been a swimmer, a coach, and overseer for the installation of Myrtha pools for the USA Olympic Swimming Trials. First representing Canada at the Olympics in 1988 (Seoul), he medaled in the 400 medley relay (Bronze) in 1992 (Barcelona), and returned for his last Olympics as a competitor in 1996 (Atlanta).

The son of MLB pitcher Reggie Cleveland, Jon was also a sports anchor and reporter for TV station CFPL in London, Ontario for 5 years.

A contemporary and rival of famed Canadian swimmer Victor Davis, Jon's visit with us takes us back to his roots in swimming, his journey to greatness, and his passion for the aquatics industry and competitive swimming, as well as swimming for all. We hear him voice his thoughts and perceptions about lifeguard shortages, learn-to-swim and lesson programs, and why there is a greater need for them now than ever.

Join us for another riveting episode!


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Myrtha Pools: https://www.myrthapools.com


Timeline for this episode

00:00:01 – Disclaimer

00:01:08 – Water Safety PSA

00:02:02 – Introducing Jon Cleveland

00:02:28 – Into the swimming world

00:06:25 – Move to Calgary

00:09:08 – Taking on Victor Davis

00:13:00 – Trevor Tiffany connection

00:14:32 – Corner Gas

00:16:01 – Broadcasting in London

00:17:36 – Coaching & teaching in Dallas

00:19:50 – From coaching to Myrtha

00:21:00 – Why multi-pool facilities?

00:26:40 – Myrtha = First Class

00:29:00 – What’s a Myrtha pool?

00:31:18 – Latest options

00:34:22 – Mobile option

00:35:00 – New projects

00:37:30 – Past the roadblocks

00:40:00 – New York initiatives

00:40:49 – Lifeguard shortages

00:42:30 – Race visualization

00:45:35 – Why not more learn-to-swim?

00:51:32 – Private school builds

00:55:50 – Out of the dark ages

01:00:30 – Contractor issues

01:03:23 – David Johnson

01:04:50 – Wrapping it up


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10 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 58 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 63: Our FIRST JuCo Team and Coach, Dale Pearce of MCC

Yes, we've finally turned our attention to the unheralded realm of amazing junior colleges, those necessary and beneficial 2-year options for kids wanting to extend their HS careers, hopefully parlaying that experience into a 4-year option.

Dale Pearce is not only a great JuCo mentor at a rising program (Men have won 10 Regional Championships, 11 NJCAA Non-Scholarship Team Titles, and the Women 8 Regional and 8 NJCAA Non-Scholarship Team Titles), he is also the Assistant AD at Monroe Community College in Rochester, NY. Come listen to him share some great stories and explain why JuCo swimming can be a perfect next-path for a HS swimmer.


Email us at: ⁠swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com⁠


Interested in swimming for the MCC Tribunes? You can email Coach Dale Pearce at ⁠dpearce4@monroecc.edu⁠


Check out MCC Swimming here:


Men: ⁠https://www.mcctribunes.com/sports/mswimdive/index⁠


Women: ⁠https://www.mcctribunes.com/sports/wswimdive/index⁠


Timeline:

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

01:08 – Water Safety PSA

02:02 – Introducing Dale Pearce

02:38 – Working w/JUCO athletes

03:58 – Recruiting

08:01 – Beyond the pool

12:43 – Wearing several hats

14:55 – JUCO competition

16:52 – Changes through the years

19:16 – Club swimming

20:10 – Wearing the CPO hat

24:55 – Air quality

29:14 – Season preview

32:58 – International program

36:05 – Dave’s Leap

36:42 – Enjoying the moment

38:43 – Coaching: Then & Now

41:12 – Contact Dale

41:53 – Wrapping it up


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11 months ago
43 minutes 8 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 62: Best Small Club Team in America - Orinda Aquatics, Coaches Don and Ron Heidary

Don and Ron Heidary have been in this particular business for over 30 years, and after listening to them explain their strategy and philosophy of CHARACTER FIRST (team culture), you will understand why. Dana is personally enthused from this conversation with a couple of this country's absolute best coaches, and Bob is cheering them, too!


Swimming World Magazine has a couple of great articles about the Heidary brothers and team culture, character:


"Q&A with the Heidarys": https://tinyurl.com/2eja237d

"Build A Wining Culture": https://tinyurl.com/52ufrka6


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Have you learned anything or even -enjoyed- any of these mediocre podcasts? Well, then, buy us a coffee!

https://buymeacoffee.com/swimtalka2b


TIMELINE for this OUTSTANDING episode:

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

03:05 – Chuck Warner books

04:25 – Introducing Ron & Don Heidary

05:05 – Making character education work

08:12 – Personal connections

12:35 – From rock pile to cathedral

16:33 – Orinda Aquatics staffing

17:43 – Does culture match mission?

20:52 – Eight reasons why teenagers drink

(Link here: https://tinyurl.com/bdmjtv9x)

22:12 – Facility

23:20 – Feeding the program

24:40 – Virtual Club Championships

26:11 – Getting their start

28:32 – Work ethic

31:11 – Trust

34:49 – Developing leaders & coaches

38:02 – Self-discipline

40:00 – Favorites

42:05 – What’s life w/o swimming?

45:28 – Working in some fun

47:20 – Pressure cooker

48:10 – Finding the right fit

48:48 – Culture of caring

51:38 – Wrapping it up

52:38 – Check program notes



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1 year ago
53 minutes 44 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 61: UVA's Todd DeSorbo, USA Olympic Head Women's Coach

One of the most successful collegiate careers in the business! Listen in as we have an engaging conversation with University of Virginia Head Women's and Men's coach Todd DeSorbo. Besides all of the NCAA and Olympic success, did he really say, " if there was one time-frame I would go back to in my life, it would be high school. Partly because... I loved high school, but my math classes were so much fun, and then [my coach] Nikki [Rosenbluth] was so much fun and swimming ... everything that we were doing was fun and I liked it. So it was easy to work hard at it."


Yes, he did. HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMING.


We think you'll really enjoy this peek into the life and career of UVA and USA Olympic Head Coach Todd DeSorbo!


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Episode timeline:


00:01 - Disclaimer

00:20 – Safety or Convenience?

01:16 – Banter

03:15 – Compensation

04:13 – Introducing Todd DeSorbo

04:51 – Splitting time?

06:21 – Support at UVA

09:32 – Accolades

11:40 – Building the roster

14:01 – The Salisbury Post

15:00 – Contending for titles

16:36 – Sprinter Ryan Held

18:38 – Jaw-dropping workouts

20:50 – The Salisbury Hornets

22:01 – Coaching IM-ers

24:36 – Nicky Rosenbluth

26:46 – Numbers cruncher

32:01 – The new ACC

34:45 – What about the men?

37:02 – Titles to Titleist

40:10 – Powerhouse schedule

41:45 – Alternate meet formats

47:00 – Wrapping it up

47:39 – Looking ahead


Photo courtesy of Swimming World Magazine and Photographer Peter H. Bick

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1 year ago
48 minutes 58 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 60: Jeff Raker, Level Up Leadership

From listennotes.com:


Jeff is a swim official, former FINA starter and pastor. He has worked with big business brands including Toyota, TBS Brands and Mohawk Industries. He’s also worked with University sports from Auburn, NC State, Denison and Queens, as well as club programs like the Mason Manta Rays, TAC Titans, and NOVA.


Email us at: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Contact Jeff Raker:

https://www.levelupleadershipcoach.com/contact-us/


Level Up Leadership on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/@JARaker5


Timeline for this episode:


00:01 – Disclaimer

01:22 – Water Safety PSA

02:30 – Introducing Jeff Raker

04:00 – Jeff’s road to Doha ‘24

06:46 – Level Up Leadership

08:50 – Question for Today

10:40 – Leaders who listen & learn

12:33 – Now That’s a Great Question

14:35 – L.I.S.T.E.N.

17:44 – Questioning strategies

21:05 – Strengths & weaknesses

22:50 – Fragile athletes

24:49 – Fears: Natural & Learned

28:31 – Compass vs. Calendar

31:35 – Rest, recovery, & reflection

34:38 – Self-care

38:11 – Coaches’ Academies

42:47 – Warming up with Doc

43:33 – Reaching out to Jeff

47:20 – Wrapping it up




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1 year ago
49 minutes 2 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 59: John Leonard, "Mr. ASCA", Part 2

In this second part of two content-rich episodes with former Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association, John Leonard, we dive DEEPLY into the problems and history associated with the PED doping scandal in our sport. We hear John's opinion of age-group and high school coaches (high praise indeed!), and who would be on his "Mt. Rushmore of Swimming". Extremely enlightening!


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Time line for the dynamite episode:


00:01 – Disclaimer

01:06 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

02:30 – Part II Preview

02:58 – PED’s Panel

04:59 – How to “game” the system

08:04 – David Howman

09:00 – Phony testing schemes

10:10 – Performance anomalies

11:33 – Microdosing

13:26 – Systematic failure

14:01 – Losing faith in WADA

15:06 – Athletics Integrity Unit

17:48 – Dr. Lothar Kipke

20:48 – Government-sponsored programs

22:06 – ’96 Atlanta Games

25:51 – From FINA to World Aquatics

28:15 – USADA

30:37 – FINA buying votes

33:15 – What hasn’t changed?

35:24 – Coaching age groupers

38:09 – Mount Rushmore of swim coaching

44:17 – Wrapping it up


Music credits:


The Whip Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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1 year ago
45 minutes 41 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 58: John Leonard, "Mr. ASCA", Part 1

From 1985 to 2020, "ASCA" and "John Leonard" were unmistakably linked. As Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association for 35 years, Coach Leonard has been inextricably involved with American swimming at almost every level from LTS (Learn-to-Swim) to the US National Team, from local organization to battling athletic doping on an international scale. You ought to really enjoy this first of a two-part conversation with "Mr. ASCA."


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Timeline for this episode, courtesy of Button:

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

01:52 – ASCA mentoring

03:41 – Previewing Parts I & II

04:42 – Introducing John Leonard

05:06 – Syracuse Chargers:  Zero to Powerhouse

08:15 – Favorites

09:28 – ASCA Executive Director

11:35 – SwimAmerica

15:35 – Coach-owned clubs

17:08 – Coach certification & Walt Schlueter

22:10 – The Suit Wars

25:49 – Organization growth

30:00 – …but wait!  There’s more!

30:26 – More ASCA mentoring & membership


Music Credits:

"Private Eye" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/



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1 year ago
32 minutes 28 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 57: NISCA President-Elect Kyle Bedalov

Longtime president of the Wisconsin Swimming Coaches Association and the next president of NISCA, Kyle Bedalov wandered into the Swim Talk Zoom Room recently and led us through a vast wonderland of thoughts and ideas. See the timeline below for your own personal roadmap through this audio delight!


Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com

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Timeline for this above-average episode:


00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

00:02:40 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

00:04:01 – Introducing Kyle Bedalov

00:05:01 – Kicking off a new season

00:07:06 – Swimming south of the border

00:08:17 – WISCA site

00:11:58 – Wisconsin high school poll

00:14:24 – Just when I thought I was out…

00:18:03 – Competing through Covid-19

00:21:50 – Private schools into WIA

00:23:07 – Coaching your own

00:29:10 – Swimming at the next level

00:35:11 – Swim lesson PSA

00:36:40 – Social Media

00:42:55 – A day in the life…

00:45:35 – More social media

00:48:17 – The Question Behind the Question

00:51:35 – One Shot Wednesday

00:53:15 – Chop Wood Carry Water

00:54:32 – Future of NISCA leadership

00:59:19 – NISCA convention plans

01:00:36 – Archive, records, & A-A fixes

01:02:37 – NISCA podcast w/Rowdy

01:04:05 – Virtual awards banquet

01:06:16 – A2B guest roster

01:07:33 – Wrapping it up

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Music Credits:

 

[1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

 

[2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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1 year ago
1 hour 9 minutes 23 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 56: Olympic Medalist Natalie Hinds

In 2015, the University of Florida’s Natalie Hinds was voted Freshman of the Year at the SEC Championships. That same year, she was part of the trio of Black women that swept the 100 free at the NCAA Div 1 Championships, a first-ever achievement. Five years after retiring and letting go of her Olympic dream, the 27-year-old swimmer mounted an incredible comeback, qualifying for her first Games as one of the oldest first-time American Olympic swimmers in history.

 

Join Bob and Dana as they visit with this amazing woman and find out how a little girl from Midland, Texas wound up on the Olympic Awards podium in Tokyo. Incredible story!

 

Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com

 

Timeline:

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

01:41 – ASCA Mentoring

02:38 – Introducing Natalie Hinds

03:10 – Path to Tokyo

08:00 – Andy Korda/COM

11:16 – Florida Gators

14:48 – Georgia & Jack Bauerle

18:11 – Rowdy Gaines PSA

19:11 – Diversity & Culture

23:20 – Getting parents on board

26:00 – Opportunities & role models

30:11 – Elizabeth Beisel

32:21 – Rowdy’s enthusiasm

34:10 – Rookie Veteran

35:00 – Escaping to water

37:36 – Drowning PSA

38:32 – Murray’s Deli in Midland

40:11 – Learn-to-Swim in schools

45:04 – Competition & courage

51:59 – Trials vs. Games

56:43 – Wrapping it up

 

Music Credits:

 

[1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

 

[2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/


Photo of Natalie Hinds courtesy Peter Bick, Swimming World Magazine

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1 year ago
59 minutes 6 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 55: SwimNerd's Nate Tschohl

What started as a Kickstarter campaign more than 10 years ago has grown into an incredible business with pace clocks, scoreboards, touchpads, starting devices, timing equipment, and even COWBELLS.

 

Join Bob and Dana as they have one of the most wide-ranging and fun interviews ever with SwimNerd's Nate Tschohl.

 

Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com

 

SwimNerd homepage: ⁠https://swimpractice.com/⁠

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Episode Timeline:

00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

00:02:55 – SwimNerd Live

00:03:43 – Introducing Nate Tschohl

00:04:20 – Kickstarter

00:05:02 – Social media

00:06:26 – Inside w/Brett Hawke

00:11:15 – OD:  The Ol’ Dirty

00:15:19 – The Big Swim Nerd

00:17:35 – Coach Nerd

00:19:17 – Basic Underwater Demolition School (BUDS)/SEAL

00:28:01 – Recovery

00:30:02 – What’s new at SwimNerd?

00:37:00 – Splits/Times Top Secret?

00:38:23 – Pace clock idears

00:41:10 – Scoreboards:  Not just for meets!

00:45:09 – Needs more cowbell?

00:45:58 – Why green numbers?

00:48:15 – Blogging

00:50:00 – Rare artifacts

00:51:45 – Water safety

00:54:17 – Keeping kids alive

00:58:15 – Drowning Support Network

01:00:08 – All politics is local

01:00:52 – Plato:  A man is not learned until…

01:01:29 – Adding Capital to Young Australians

01:02:46 – Splash Pads replacing pools?

01:03:38 – Wrapping it up


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Facebook Drowning and Near-Drowning Support Groups:

 

Drowning Support Network Information

⁠https://www.facebook.com/DrowningSupportNetworkInformation/⁠

 

Drowning Support Network

⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/DrowningSupportNetwork/⁠

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Music Credits:

 

[1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

 

[2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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Griffith University Study "Early Years Swimming, Adding Capital to Young Australians" - The findings of a four-year project by the Griffith Institute for Educational Research, Laurie Lawrence’s Kids Alive Swim Program and Swim Australia have surpassed expectations and indicate that swimming children have many advantages when starting school.

 

“The children were anywhere from six to 15 months ahead of the normal population when it came to cognitive skills, problem solving in mathematics, counting, language and following instructions.”

 

https://kidsalive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2013-EYS-Final-Report-30-July-13-JM.pdf

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BONUS! Nate recalls a quote attributed to Plato that “every man is not learned until they can read, write and swim”. A quick search led us to the rationale behind that quote that “Plato thinks of both reading and swimming as things you learn through lessons, rather than naturally. The contrast is clear: babies learn to talk and walk on their own, but you have to teach children to read and to swim.”

 

For a further look at the interesting historical discussion, please click here for “Plato, Privilege, and the Pool”: https://eidolon.pub/plato-privilege-and-the-pool-b631e2e96c7e

 

 


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1 year ago
1 hour 5 minutes 3 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 53: Hall of Fame Swim Coach Roy Snyder, Wilson HS, Reading PA

Coach Roy Snyder has been at the helm of the Wilson HS swim teams in Reading PA for over 60 years! Our visit with him is like strolling through a most impressive library. Join Bob and me as we are entertained and educated during this fascinating visit.


We mentioned two external items in the podcast and promised to list them here.


1-The one-time-only Olympic event that might have put observers to sleep faster than listening to this podcast, the PLUNGE, is covered in great depth and style here:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240720-the-extinct-olympic-sport-that-was-the-dullest-of-all-time


2-One of the most heartwarming Olympic commercials explored a topic we discussed with Roy, that of kids following their passions and finding their joy, and is titled simply, "It's OK." We think it's BETTER than "OK"!

https://youtu.be/aJSZSHmMj5Y?si=iu03vLxdeAU9142X


Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


Timeline for this episode:


00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

00:33 – Join ASCA

02:26 – Abbott/Button Special

02:42 – Introducing Roy Snyder

03:17 – Origins of Wilson HS swimming

05:48 – A total program

06:39 – YMCA & HS highlights

08:26 – Depth = Dual Strength

09:40 – Day in the life of a WHS Bulldog

12:00 – One-man band?

14:00 – Aerobic wins

16:03 – Roy’s start at Allentown HS

17:46 – Doc Counsilman & George Breen

19:23 – What hasn’t changed?

21:05 – Breaststroke turns & finishes

25:58 – AD or AD?

30:33 – Assistant coach Alison Snyder

32:37 – Canadian Butterfly

33:17 – Plunge for Distance

36:03 – A look in the rearview

39:44 – Patience NOW!?!?

40:12 – Kristy Kowal

40:59 – Wrapping it up

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1 year ago
42 minutes 29 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 54: ASCA Board President Mike Murray Returns!

Mike Murray returns for another visit on Swim Talk as he also returns to his HS alma mater, Albany (NY) Academies as head swim coach for boys and girls. Join him as he takes Bob and Dana through a wide range of topics, see the timeline below and jump on for another entertaining and informational romp!

 

 

Listen to Mike's own podcast, "Coaches Corner", here:

⁠https://rss.com/podcasts/coaches-corner/⁠

 

 

Email Swim Talk A2B at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com

 

 

Mentioned on this episode: Chuck Warner's latest book, "How To Be a Great Swim Parent", is destined to become a favorite, maybe even a classic in the swimming and youth sports community. Available SOON in both hardcopy and audiobook format at ⁠www.chuckwarnerbooks.com⁠

 

 

Timeline for this episode:

 

 

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

01:38 – ASCA membership & mentorship

03:04 – Introducing Mike Murray

03:42 – From Victor to Albany

05:01 – Victor’s Burke & Wisner

07:09 – Saratoga Sharks & more

07:28 – Revolution at Albany Academy

09:39 – The elusive SwimNerd

10:11 – Building the Academy numbers

12:45 – Pandemic aftereffects

14:30 – Open water opportunities

15:00 – Orlando World Clinic

16:22 – Fitter & Faster

16:52 – ASCA leadership & education

19:10 – Special Forces group

21:30 – NCSA Junior Nats

23:10 – The move east

23:37 – The staff of thousands

26:31 – Work Works

30:25 – AA facility

31:36 – Gilbert Legaspi

32:23 – Enjoying the work

36:04 – Trusting the work

37:57 – SWOLF & Quadathlon

41:28 – Adirondack LSC

42:02 – USRPT

45:43 – Last 15m

47:04 – Rebuilding

49:22 – Chuck’s new book

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1 year ago
50 minutes 54 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 52: Trey Hayes Leaping From Lubbock to Arlington

Longtime Lubbock swim guru Trey Hayes, also a past-president of TISCA, makes a leap east to take over aquatics in the Arlington ISD. How he got started, how he became a program builder, and his goals and aspirations for his new post smack-dab between Fort Worth and Dallas.


Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com


"Beard" links mentioned on this episode:


https://westtexasbeardco.com/


https://dukecannon.com/


Timeline for this incredibly adequate episode:


00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro

01:19  – ASCA info

01:45 – Introducing Trey Hayes

02:20 – Coaching philosophy

05:41 – Balancing club & school coaching

07:02 – Working with Penny DiPomazio

07:48 – Lubbock via Amarillo

08:15 – Tim Estes

08:42 – Triathlons to swimming

09:05 – TJ Fry

09:39 – John Pittington & NLU

12:40 – The right fit

14:31 – Competing in 6A

15:55 – Virtual Club

18:43 – Elementary swim

24:54 – Arlington ISD water safety

26:25 – West Texas Beard Co.

27:05 – AISD high schools

28:21 – What hasn’t changed?

30:21 – Ripping on USRPT

33:05 – Staff cooperation

35:11 – Late bloomers

36:10 – Sharing athletes

41:14 – Coaching your own

45:04 –West Texas pride

46:35 – Travel schedule

48:00 – Wrapping it up

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1 year ago
49 minutes 33 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 51: Bob and Dana Take A Look in the Rearview Mirror

After getting 50 episodes "in the can" (and a few in the garbage can), we wanted to take a retrospective look at our coaching beginnings and the steps we've taken along the way, as well as looking at our coaching organizations. It's slightly less yawn-inducing than one might think. Slightly.


Our email: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com (this is NEW)


Timeline for this soporific episode:

00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro

01:44 – The Jay in Needville

01:58 – TISCA

03:54 – Lanny Landtroop & Co.

05:28 – TISCA:  Then & Now

10:50 – One Swim Classification to Three

25:36 – TISCA Leadership

29:31 – TISCA Clinic

30:51 – TISCA Treasurer

31:40 – Did ya hear the one about…

32:24 – Swim Shops of the Southwest

33:25 – Getting in a couple more digs

34:57 – Time Out!

35:22 – Kelcie at The Jay

36:10 – NISCA

37:25 – NISCA Leadership

39:00 – NISCA Journal

39:42 – NISCA Conference

40:56 – High school swim/dive rules

46:17 – NISCA at Men’s NCAA D-I Champs

47:30 – Media Passes, Baby!

48:06 – Abbott meets Lochte

49:54 – The Lochte’s at TISCA

51:10 – NISCA Membership

52:48 – Journal revisited

57:02 – ASCA World Clinic

58:30 – Is there a Track track?

58:49 – Wrapping it up

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1 year ago
1 hour 4 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode FIFTY: Kevin Cargill, Meet Announcer for USOT24

There are two types of announcers at major televised swim meets like NCAA Championships and US Olympic Trials: the big-time network pros in the nice upstairs booth who sit before the cameras with their play-by-play and color commentary, whose words get no immediate feedback or reaction, and then there are the solo announcers, usually on-deck with all of the attending media reps, communicating directly via the PA system with the seats in the stands, the ones whose job it is to provide more than names and numbers to the spectators on-site. Kevin Cargill is a former HS and college swimmer who has been mentioned as a possible successor to the big shoes and stellar heights reached by the late Sam Kendricks, "America's Swim Meet Announcer". Join us as we get to know this rising star in big-meet announcing!

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com


Timeline for this SPECTACULAR episode:

00:01 – Disclaimer & Banter

02:15 – The Jay in Needville

02:40 – Introducing Kevin Cargill

03:18 – Indy Trials highlights

05:12 – From swimming to announcing

10:10 – Tough Doubles

13:05 – Time Out

13:25 – Kelcie at The Jay

14:15 – ’28 Los Angeles Games

16:40 – Public Address vs. Broadcast

21:51 – Out AFAP & Negative Splitting

22:55 – Reagan Smith WR call

24:14 – Omaha vs. Indy

26:52 – Gabrielle Rose

27:43 – Life away from the pool

29:06 – All-Taper Team

34:41 – Beyond the Podium

37:44 – Tough names

41:40 – Bloopers?

42:32 – Trials Stories

43:53 – Gretchen Walsh WR call

45:27 – Simone Manuel 50 free

47:05 – Mental health

51:50 – The great Sam Kendricks

53:13 – Wrapping it up

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1 year ago
53 minutes 51 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 49: Mark Onstott (New Trier HS), Part 2

Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School.

In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we heard of his start in the sport.

In Part 2, we pick up with his tenure at New Trier as Head Boys Coach, including NT's TWO National Championships, and the beginning years that led up to those incredible achievements.

Email Swim Talk at swimtalk@outlook.com

Episode 48 timeline:

00:01 – Disclaimer & Part II Intro

01:38 – The Jay in Needville

01:58 – Texas vs. Illinois high school training

03:33 – National Championships

05:26 – Dual Meet & JV Highlights

07:34 – 100 x 100’s

10:55 – The Roller Coaster

13:43 – Scary Larry

14:18 – Space/Numbers Issues

16:33 – Restore UNI Panther Men?

19:46 – Kelcie at The Jay

20:39 – Ted Mullin & The Hour of Power

31:20 – What hasn’t changed in coaching?

32:30 – Work Works & Opportunities

34:05 – Exhibition vs. Scoring

35:16 – Wrapping it up

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1 year ago
36 minutes 37 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Swim Talk A2B - Episode 48: Mark Onstott (New Trier HS)

Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School.

In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we hear of his start in the sport and his swimmer's journey from a young Red Cross lessons swimmer, to high school, to college, and then to his start in coaching, and all of the twists and turns a young coach could possibly encounter before winding up in charge of a boys program that ultimately won TWO Swimming World "mythical" National Championships. Quite a tale, and no one better to share it.

Part 2 will be launched shortly as Episode 49, just as soon as we deal with Hurricane Beryl, since Bob and Dana both live in the direct Texas path of the storm!

Email Swim Talk at swimtalk@outlook.com

Episode 48 timeline:

00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

01:44 – Endless Pools plug

02:30 – Introducing Mark Onstott

02:55 – Road to the UNI Panther HOF

09:35 – Breaking into high school coaching

12:45 – Working the Jack Nelson camp

13:45 – Cypress, Texas calling!

16:10 – Brian Seifert “taper”

18:13 – Escape from CFHS

22:04 – New Trier hiring process

28:06 – Dynamite?

29:20 – Dave Robertson era

31:38 – Evanston rivalry

36:40 – Texas vs. Illinois high school rules

41:30 – Onstott Part II Preview

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1 year ago
42 minutes 20 seconds

Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button
Contemporary topics and issues on competitive swimming are discussed by two experienced USA swim coaches and authors, with special guests most episodes, ranging from high school and college/club coaches to world-record holders and Olympians from various countries. Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com