In this episode of The Human Behind the Work, I’m joined by Santiago Rincón-Gallardo, educator, systems thinker and author of Liberating Learning. His work centres on a simple yet radical belief: learning is a practice of freedom.

We talk about:

• How succeeding in school can still wound our capacity to learn

• The moment Santiago reawakened his own power to learn and why that changed everything

• The role of mentorship, community and collective practice in shaping his thinking

• What it means to lead cultural change in education

• His new framework for leadership that integrates the heart, head, and hands

At the heart of this conversation is a powerful invitation - become the leader you’ve been waiting for. Stop waiting for permission. Start from where you are, with what you have.

This conversation was originally recorded as part of the World Education Summit. You can now access four years of Summit content for free at www.weslegacy.com.