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SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
SEON Fraud Fighters
36 episodes
7 months ago

Fraudsters and fraud managers are locked in a never-ending war. So what's our goal with the Cat and Mouse Podcast?


To provide insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems, hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. Plus, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


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Fraudsters and fraud managers are locked in a never-ending war. So what's our goal with the Cat and Mouse Podcast?


To provide insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems, hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. Plus, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Episodes (20/36)
SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 E10 - Peter Taylor - The Fraud Guy

In the last episode of our Cat and Mouse Podcast, Peter shares a range of interesting insights with Jimmy Fong including:


  • Why fraud is always going to be about people, not technology
  • What do the ‘Zombie’ and ‘Cybercrime Triangle’ theories stand for
  • Importance of policies and structure for when fraud or ransomware does hit
  • How fraud has shifted in the last decade



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3 years ago
33 minutes 46 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP 9 - Lloyd Temple - TikTok

Holding over a decade of experience at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Lloyd has helped combat identity fraud, theft, and criminal organizations for much of his career. 


Now at the biggest social media platform in the world, he helps mitigate potential risks on the platform. Alongside our host Jimmy Fong, Lloyd details:


  • His learnings from federal law enforcement and the private sector
  • How his time at Homeland Security developed his understanding of criminals and fraudsters
  • It the importance for businesses to have good digital hygiene and educate their own employees
  • What TikTok is doing to help raise awareness of fraud & cybersecurity



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3 years ago
27 minutes 32 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP8 - Steve Moffatt - Phorest Salon Software
Steve Moffatt visits us to share his insights on how fraudsters are gaining specialized knowledge about specific companies, growing concerns around pen-testing smaller businesses before launching full-scale attacks on bigger ones and developing a strategy to succeed safely at phenomenal speed (90% payment approval rate in under 25 seconds!)

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3 years ago
38 minutes 48 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP7 - Obi Juwah - VICE Crimewave
Presenter of The Rise of Money Launderers on Snapchat and Instagram, part of VICE’s Crimewave series, Obi Juwah gives insight into how the production came about and what it was like meeting active fraudsters straight from social media and the problems around money muling and youth education.

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3 years ago
37 minutes 33 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP6 - Mike Jones - The H4unt3d Hacker
Mike Jones, otherwise known as The H4unt3d Hacker, has had one heck of a career. From operating alongside the Anonymous group to helping tech-smart children use their skills for good, this episode offers a glimpse into the dark world of cybersecurity and the psychology behind cybercriminals. 

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3 years ago
23 minutes 50 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP5 - Claire Maillet - Jaja Finance
Claire's combination of mental health awareness, professional experience, and academic knowledge makes for some interesting insights in this episode!

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3 years ago
30 minutes 56 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP4 - Darren Hodder - Lockdown Risk

Darren Hodder joins us to discuss what new threats have emerged from remote working, the growth of sophisticated targeting & ransomware attacks on businesses as well as the always the importance of the human element of fraud.



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3 years ago
29 minutes 28 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP3 - Frank McKenna - Point Predictive

Frank McKenna is the co-founder and chief fraud strategist at PointPredictive as well as the man behind leading industry resource - Frank On Fraud.


In this episode, he shares his experiences of consulting around the world, working with over 200 banks, lenders, and finance companies across his career as well as tips on how to improve your fraud fighting skills.




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3 years ago
26 minutes 58 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP2 - John Marsden - We Fight Fraud
Industry veteran John Marsden talks about why digital identity has become and will continue to be one of the key aspects of risk management as well as the importance of online security education.

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3 years ago
30 minutes 46 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
S2 EP 1 - Robert Brooker - London Fraud Forum

Robert Brooker, Chairman of the London Fraud Forum, sits down with Jimmy Fong to discuss the process of social engineering, the ever-growing importance of digital identity, his experiences of fighting fraud, and why collaboration is the only way we move forward.




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3 years ago
42 minutes 8 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
The Story of SEON - Tamas Kadar, Bence Jendruszak & Jimmy Fong
We're back! After a short break, the Cat & Mouse podcast returns with more candid discussions with some of the world's best fraud fighters. The co-founders of SEON sit down with host Jimmy Fong to dive into the ever-growing threat of cybersecurity and fraud as well as the journey of SEON to date.

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3 years ago
46 minutes 30 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraud fighter - Sergey Artyukhin - Libertex Group

With knowledge from both the client and bank’s perspective, Sergey jumped at the opportunity to learn things from the merchant’s side of things, ultimately bringing together his experience to his current team leader role. 


“Initially I was focused on payments before then moving across to more risk-based activities. I  have looked to create a balance between our KPIs in that whilst you might not have completely opposite targets, you should have something specific for another aspect of the business. 


“For example, if you are working in risk you should have one KPI to reduce risk input from the clients or if you’re responsible for payments, one of your targets should be to reduce risk level or chargebacks.”


Find more information about the Libertex Group.


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4 years ago
16 minutes 56 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a Fraudster - Anonymous A

Welcome to episode 24 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Anonymous !, an expert on account takeover.


In this in-depth interview, they explain how they do it, and which fraud prevention measures are a waste of time for businesses – and add friction to the user journey.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
12 minutes 40 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraud fighter -Ina Macaria - Kindred Group

On the latest episode of the latest Cat & Mouse episode, we hear from Ina Macaira, Product Manager at the Kindred Group, one of the world’s largest iGaming companies. 


Ina walked us through the company’s idea of iGaming sustainability, how it’s deployed at the group, and how it can actually help with fraud rates in the long run. 


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io

Find Ina Macaria Bawn on LinkedIn

More information about the Kindred Group



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4 years ago
18 minutes 50 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous D

Online stores have always been prized targets for fraudsters. But how exactly do they manage to receive physical goods without being detected? 


In this episode of the Cat & Mouse podcast, you’ll hear about physical and bank drops, as explained by a fraudster we’ll call Anonymous D.

They go over the techniques they have for receiving goods, how they keep the addresses going as long as possible and what kind of OpSec measures they have in place.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.

The goal?

To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
8 minutes 4 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraud fighter - Elena Emelyanova, WarGaming

Welcome to episode 21 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Elena Emelyanova, Senior Payments and Fraud Manager at Wargaming.net.


As fraud manager of a video game company delivering war games to millions of users worldwide, Elena had to learn how to anticipate fraud, learn how it works with micropayments, and where fraud management needs to improve in general. She shared some of her fascinating insights in a conversation that touches on seasonal fraud, irrational fraudsters, and the advantages criminals have.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal?

To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Find Elena Emelyanova on Linkedin

Interview by Jimmy Fong

Wargaming is online here.

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
16 minutes 31 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous O

Welcome to episode 20 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Anonymous O, an expert on open banking fraud.


Open banking is supposed to be a boon for bank customers, but it also opens the door to new attack vectors. Anonymous O explains how they work, from phishing to loan scams and buying challenger bank accounts.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal?

To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
12 minutes 37 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraud fighter - Stefania Bonà, Checkout.com

On the latest episode, Jimmy spoke with Stefania Bonà (Data Science Product Manager, Checkout.com) about the journey that leads to working for one of the world's biggest fintechs.


With unrivaled expertise in understanding the mind of a fraudster, Stefania details her key most important takeaways from almost a decade of experience studying and combatting cybercrime.


Having developed her own gift card program and seen the entire spectrum of the supply chain, from merchant to buyer, this episode is packed with insightful comments.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal?

To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
15 minutes 10 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous G

We’re now on episode 18 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we are joined once more by a fraudster we contacted on the darknet. 


Anonymous G, as we’ll call them, is an expert at targeting financial institutions, both in terms of account takeover (ATO) and also onboarding using a fake ID and phone number.


We’ll pick their brains about how they bypass OTP and 2FA, and what they think of new authentication methods such as Apple IDs.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
13 minutes 30 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast
A chat with a fraud fighter - Balint Patkos, SEON

Welcome to our latest Cat & Mouse episode, where we are joined by SEON’s very own Head of Customer Success, Balint Patkos.

Before joining SEON to help fraud fighters, Balint used to be one himself – and at an extremely high-risk company. 

In this fascinating interview, he gives tips and shares insights on what he’s learned, especially in the context of growing a successful anti-fraud team.


The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


The goal?

To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Interview by Jimmy Fong

For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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4 years ago
18 minutes 9 seconds

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

Fraudsters and fraud managers are locked in a never-ending war. So what's our goal with the Cat and Mouse Podcast?


To provide insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems, hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. Plus, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.