From their Virginia farm, O.G. Rose with guest Jacob Kishere explore the deeper meanings of RFK, Trump & Biden for culturemaking in the digital age. We identify how each candidate represents a distinct media culture and following Mcluhan's 'medium is the message' consider how these shape culture and possibilities. -Trump as shift from tv to a mastery of memes -RFK jr as representing the podcast & dialogue revolution -Trump's as instinctive, non-strategic and highyl memetic -Which developed in reaction to Biden (& Obama)'s highly-strategised tech savvy but in-authentic approach -the move from tv to podcast culture -from podcast culture to participatory longform dialogue -RFK's voice, tragedy and symbolism of the wounder healer/leader. -The need to shift from 'information' [meme culture] to a focus on 'formation' [liminal web spaces for becoming and transformation] O.G. Rose, Daniel and Michelle Garner, are the authors of Belonging Again, hosts of O.G Rose podcast and the philosophical community 'The Net'. They raise a family and run a wedding venue in Lynchburg Virginia. O.G. ROSE https://www.og-rose.com/ Jacob Kishere www.culturepilgrim.substack.com  @pilgrimpermaculture8014 Twitter/IG 'culturepilgrim' Podcast/YT:  @sensespacepodcast