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Second Life
Second Life
619 episodes
3 days ago

Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journeys.

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Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journeys.

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Careers
Arts,
Personal Journals,
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Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: Celebrity Hairstylist Chris McMillan on Creating “The Rachel,” Going Viral Before Social Media, and Launching His Haircare Line
Chris McMillan is a celebrity hairstylist with more than 30 years of experience behind the chair. He’s worked with everyone from Michelle Williams to Cindy Crawford to Kim Kardashian. This week, McMillan joins Who What Wear Senior Beauty Editor Jamie Schneider to look back on his career—from styling Farrah Fawcett curls for his mom to creating the now-famous “Rachel” style for Jennifer Anniston in Friends to Leslie Bibb’s cunty little bob on The White Lotus. They get into his favorite cuts he’s done over the years, upcoming hair trends, and the inside scoop on his new haircare line. Plus, McMillan shares all his tips and tricks for re-creating his signature looks at home with his products.
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3 days ago
30 minutes 39 seconds

Second Life
Alyson Stoner: Author and Founder/CEO of Movement Genius
Alyson Stoner is the founder and CEO of Movement Genius, a mental health platform designed to support child performers. Stoner started their career as a child star, acting in hundreds of projects as an actor, singer, and dancer. They got their big break as a dancer in Missy Elliot’s “Work It” music video and went on to star in Disney Channel’s Camp Rock, Cheaper by the Dozen, the Step Up movies, and many others. At age 17, after a decade of nonstop work and growing up in the spotlight, Stoner stepped away from performing to take care of their mental health. In rehab, they questioned whether they would have chosen to be an actor after realizing how much it affected their well-being—and wondered what their life would have been like if they had felt more supported as a kid in the entertainment industry. After realizing that their true passion was psychology, Alyson left Hollywood behind to study it. After gaining multiple certifications in the field, they founded Movement Genius with the goal of making mental health support more accessible and affordable online. They also created the Artist Wellbeing Essentials—a digital tool kit designed to support children performers. Today, Stoner is a fearless advocate for mental health, whether it’s on their podcast, Dear Hollywood, or in their new memoir, Semi-Well-Adjusted Despite Literally Everything. Order the book here!
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5 days ago
1 hour 11 minutes 36 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: Too Much Costume Designer Arielle Cooper-Lethem on Maximalism, the Power of a Pioneer Nightgown, and London vs. NYC Style
Arielle Cooper-Lethem is the costume designer for Lena Dunham’s hit new show, Too Much. The hilarious and heartfelt rom-com, led by Hacks star Megan Stalter as Jess and The White Lotus star Will Sharpe as Felix, debuted on Netflix in July. This week, Cooper-Lethem joins Who What Wear Editorial Director Lauren Eggertsen to tell us what it was like curating Jess’s maximalist wardrobe of vintage nightgowns and lacy bloomers, as well as how Kurt Cobain inspired Felix’s grungy, androgynous Londoner style. Plus, Arielle tells us about If Only If, the independent British brand behind Jess’s iconic red, frilled nightie that fans bought en masse. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 week ago
28 minutes 40 seconds

Second Life
Jess Jacobs: CEO of Coterie
Jess Jacobs is the chief executive officer of Coterie—a premium, high-performing diaper essentials brand. Before Coterie, Jacobs spent years making a name for herself in creative advertising. She got her professional start as a copywriter for an ad agency, working on campaigns for noteworthy brands like Saks Fifth Avenue, LG, and Revlon. She continued her work at Kettle as a Creative Director, partnering with big names like Apple, Nike, and Glossier. Jacobs then transitioned into the personal care industry when she became vice president of creative at Lola, a women-owned feminine care brand that promotes transparency and clean ingredients. Jacobs appreciated Lola’s mission, especially after becoming a mom. Having a baby made her more aware of the ingredients in and efficacy of the products she used in her everyday life, such as diapers. When she tried a diaper from Coterie, she fell in love with the product and the brand’s mission to make parents’ lives easier. She then joined Coterie as its senior vice president of brand, creative, and product management, using everything she’d learned over the years to build the brand into something worthy of its superior product. It wasn’t long before she was appointed chief brand officer and later CEO.
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1 week ago
51 minutes 20 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: Author Amy Odell on Chronicling the Life of Gwyneth Paltrow, From '90s Fashion Icon to Wellness Mogul, in Gwyneth: The Biography
Three years after authoring the incredible biography of Anna Wintour, fashion and culture journalist Amy Odell returns to the pod to discuss her newly released biography of actress and Goop founder Gwyneth Paltrow. Through hundreds of interviews and countless hours of archival research, Odell chronicles Paltrow's life of cultural influence—from '90s fashion icon to polarizing wellness mogul. She tells us who she talked to in order to paint a full picture of a public figure who's been in the spotlight for three decades. Plus, she reveals what she would have asked Gwyneth if she'd gotten the chance to speak with her for the book. Order a copy of Odell's book here! Shop our editor's eBay picks here!
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2 weeks ago
37 minutes 22 seconds

Second Life
Samina Virk: U.S. CEO and Chief Marketing Officer of Vestiaire Collective
Samina Virk is the U.S. CEO and chief marketing officer of Vestiaire Collective, a global luxury resale platform. As a young girl, Samina loved fashion. She grew up making her clothes, thinking she might break into the industry on the creative side. Instead, she started her career in tech, working in e-commerce during the dot-com boom. She eventually went back to school to study business in hopes of merging her love for fashion with her tech experience. She joined Target’s MBA merchandising program before scoring a full-time job on the company’s marketing team. It was there where she dipped her toes into retail, overseeing Target’s designer collaborations before taking an interest in the resale market. Samina followed her curiosity to eBay, where she launched the platform’s new fashion vertical team, before she ended up at Vestiaire Collective. She helped launch the Paris-based brand in the U.S. market before going on to serve as the U.S. president and global chief marketing officer at Threads, a social-first styling service. She then realized her time at Vestiaire Collective wasn’t over and decided to return—this time as North American CEO and CMO.
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2 weeks ago
57 minutes 42 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: WWW Weddings 2025: The Definitive Guide to This Year’s Bridal Fashion and Wedding Planning Trends
This week, Associate Director of Special Projects Kristen Nichols and senior fashion editor Anna LaPlaca are giving you the definitive report on all things weddings. Kristen runs through the biggest trends from 2026 Bridal Fashion Week, where she saw chiffon capes and voluminous skirts in full force. And Anna has the scoop from experts in the wedding industry about everything beyond dresses—from unique destinations to wax-sealed invitations. They’ve got everything you need to know if you’re walking down the aisle anytime soon. Plus, the pair break down the relationship between bridal fashion and the fashion industry at large. Shop our editor's eBay picks here!
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3 weeks ago
26 minutes 47 seconds

Second Life
Ali Mejia: Cofounder of Eberjey
Ali Mejia is the visionary and cofounder of elevated sleepwear brand Eberjey. Although she’d always had a soft spot for pajamas (getting ready for bed was a self-care ritual in her home growing up), Mejia began her career on Wall Street. After graduating from Princeton, she followed many of her peers to New York City and got a job as a financial analyst. When her bank unexpectedly closed, she was laid off and left to confront the nagging feeling that she should be exploring her creativity. She used her severance package to fund a trip to Florence, Italy, and being immersed in the arts and culture inspired her to make a change in her career. Upon returning home, she took one more short-lived finance job and then landed a fashion internship at Cynthia Rowley that energized her. She moved back home to Miami and took a direct marketing job to pay the bills while quietly working with a local patternmaker and learning how to design sleepwear. Once she had designed a few prototypes, she told her coworker at the direct marketing company about her business idea. This coworker, Mariela Rovito, became Mejia’s cofounder in Eberjey. In 1996, they left their day jobs, put $10,000 each into this new venture, and set off on a brand-building journey with no business plan. Today, almost three decades later, Eberjey remains a leading international sleepwear brand with five brick-and-mortar shops and products sold in over 500 retailers, from Neiman Marcus to Nordstrom.
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3 weeks ago
53 minutes 55 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: The Bear's Molly Gordon on the Importance of Female Friendships—and Delusion—While Making It in Hollywood
This week, Who What Wear Co-Founder Hillary Kerr is chatting with our June cover star, Molly Gordon! You likely know Gordon from playing Claire in FX's The Bear, or from past roles in Booksmart, Theater Camp, Shiva Baby, and many more. In addition to acting, Gordon has approached her career from the angle of multihyphenate since the beginning. In fact, her newest project—a hilarious, genre-bending film called Oh, Hi!, which she co-created, produced, and stars in—comes out on July 25. In this episode, Gordon shares her favorite improvised moments from The Bear season 4, how Oh, Hi! was inspired by a "5% crazier" version of herself, and how she found the confidence to direct. Plus, she gives us the rundown on her press tour looks and her partnership with one of our favorite stylists, Jared Ellner.  If you'd like to watch the best bits of this interview, tune into our YouTube here! Shop our editor’s eBay picks here! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
32 minutes 28 seconds

Second Life
Amrit Tietz: DJ and Co-Founder of Spread the Jelly
Amrit Tietz is an international DJ and co-founder of the modern motherhood platform Spread the Jelly. Although she initially set out to study economics, Tietz dropped out of college, unbeknownst to her parents, to pursue a path she was more passionate about: music. She auditioned multiple times for the West Australian Academy of Performing Arts, a music conservatory, before being accepted into the musical theater program. During her time there, she collected jazz units and switched to a music performance degree while also learning how to DJ on the side. Tietz moved to New York City after graduating and worked various jobs—from waitressing to retail—while taking DJ gigs to build her network. She eventually landed a full-time role at Starworks Agency, advancing from executive assistant to director of talent and engagement. After nearly six years at the ad agency, Tietz decided to take her DJing career full-time, successfully leaping from managing talent to becoming the talent herself. She has since toured globally, performed for iconic names like Dior and Vogue, and had her original music featured in HBO and Apple TV+ productions. While Tietz continues to DJ—and did so even while seven months pregnant—she recently moved into a new space with Spread the Jelly, an independent online platform redefining the narrative around modern motherhood. She and her co-founder, Lauren Levinger, launched the platform as a space for mothers to tell their diverse stories more authentically, build community, and “embrace the sticky” parts of motherhood together.
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1 month ago
52 minutes 1 second

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: What to Shop at the Nordstrom Anniversary Sale, With Nordstrom’s Associate Fashion Director Linda Cui Zhang
The annual Nordstrom Anniversary Sale is live, and to celebrate, Who What Wear Shopping Director Bobby Schuessler is talking to one of the great curatorial minds behind the sale—Nordstrom Associate Fashion Director Linda Cui Zhang. In this episode, Zhang reveals the product selection process for the sale, the trends her team prioritized, and the new brands she was excited to bring into the fold this year. Plus, she shares the most covetable items to shop before they sell out, her favorite giftable beauty bundles, and the key pieces to prioritize if you’re looking to elevate or refresh your wardrobe but don’t know where to start (think seasonless Frye riding boots and versatile Vince short-sleeve wool tees). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
21 minutes 3 seconds

Second Life
Sarah Davis: Founder and President of Fashionphile
Sarah Davis is the founder and president of the luxury resale company Fashionphile. Davis was a self-proclaimed “debate nerd” during her teens and had early aspirations of becoming a lawyer. After earning her undergrad, she quickly enrolled in law school at the University of Maryland. Growing up, Davis had become accustomed to taking odd jobs to pay for things like clothing, so she applied that same mentality to putting herself through school. To make money, she cut boys’ hair in the dorms and even started a peer-to-peer used lawbook platform with her brother-in-law called lawswap.com. She also began selling her belongings on eBay for extra cash, and that’s when she realized that there was a largely untapped market for luxury resale. In 1999, she created a storefront on eBay called Fashionphile, focused on reselling luxury handbags, and was soon able to make enough money to pay off her student loans. Although Davis did graduate from law school and even pass the bar, she had found her true passion in growing her resale business and decided to opt out of pursuing a law career. She ran Fashionphile on eBay for the first several years of the business before bringing her brother-in-law into the fold and legitimizing the brand with its own website. Today, over 25 years later, Fashionphile is the largest platform in the country for buying and selling pre-owned, ultra-luxury accessories. The brand now has headquarters in San Diego and New York City, an office in Tokyo, and retail locations all across the country.
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1 month ago
44 minutes 7 seconds

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The Who What Wear Podcast: Go Sports! Athlete Stylists Brittany Hampton and Manny Jay on Dressing WNBA It Girls, and Why It's More Than Picking Out Clothes
In this episode, Senior Fashion Editor Eliza Huber—Who What Wear’s resident expert on the intersection of sports and fashion—is sitting down with two stylists behind some of the best tunnel fashion we’ve seen in recent months. Brittany Hampton is a seasoned athlete stylist whose client roster includes some of the buzziest women in basketball: Paige Bueckers, Sabrina Ionescu, Cameron Brink, Evan Mobley, and Nika Mühl. She’s also the Golden State Valkyries’ fashion strategist. Manny Jay began his styling career working with musicians like Trippie Redd and Tink, and more recently manifested his way into the sports arena through his work with WNBA tunnel ’fit veteran Skylar Diggins-Smith. Today, Hampton and Jay discuss the WNBA’s unprecedented growth over the last year and how that heightened visibility impacts their clients’ relationships with fashion. They get into the ways that athlete fashion extends beyond aesthetics, influencing fan accessibility, marketing avenues for players, and even their on-court performance. Check out Eliza’s Go Sports content here!
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1 month ago
36 minutes 10 seconds

Second Life
Denise Woodard: Founder and CEO of Partake Foods
Denise Woodard is the founder and CEO of Partake, an allergy-friendly food company. Woodard started her career in pound-the-pavement sales roles at Philip Morris and FedEx, gaining robust experience in winning business by providing genuine solutions to her clients. She then spent the majority of her early career at the Coca-Cola Company, starting in sales and then finding her niche working on the emerging brands that were better aligned with her values, like Honest Tea and Health-Ade. After rising through the ranks and becoming the director of national sales for Coca-Cola’s Venturing and Emerging Brands (VEB), Woodard was proud of the career she had built for herself and didn’t envision she’d ever leave her job. But after having her daughter, Vivienne, and finding out her child suffered from food allergies, she started to realize just how stark the allergy-friendly food landscape was. She couldn’t find any options that were nutritious and delicious, and after some nudging from her nanny, Woodard decided to do something about it. She promptly put together a new business pitch for an allergy-friendly snack brand, entered a pitch competition, and won. She spent the next year building Partake while working her day job before leaping into it full-time. Since then, Woodard has become the first Black woman to raise over $1 million for a packaged food company, and Partake Foods can now be found in over 18,000 retailers, including Target and Whole Foods.
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1 month ago
56 minutes 24 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: Rhode Cosmetic Chemist and BeautyStat Founder Ron Robinson on Crafting Cult Favorite Products and the Buzzy Ingredient That’s Not Worth the Hype
Ron Robinson is the founder of BeautyStat and the cosmetic chemist behind Hailey Bieber’s skincare line, Rhode. Robinson began his career at Clinique in the ’90s and, over the past two decades, has worked on products for industry giants like Revlon, Avon, L’Oréal, and Lancôme. He launched BeautyStat as an educational platform for beauty enthusiasts in 2009 but ultimately moved into developing his own product line in 2019 with the launch of his groundbreaking, ultra-potent vitamin C formulation. Celebs took notice, and Hailey Bieber quickly reached out to bring him on as a partner in what would become Rhode. In this episode, Robinson chats with Who What Wear Beauty Director Erin Jahns about the science behind successful products and which ingredients are worth the hype.
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1 month ago
19 minutes 14 seconds

Second Life
Alyssa Wasko Stein: Founder and Designer of Donni
Alyssa Wasko Stein is the founder and designer of Los Angeles–based womenswear brand Donni. Stein has had entrepreneurial tendencies since childhood, but she didn’t always know her love of fashion would take her down the designer path. She studied a different part of the fashion industry (retailing and consumer sciences) and secured a coveted internship in Chanel’s visual merchandising department during college. But after her father’s passing at the beginning of her sophomore year, Stein sought out a creative outlet for her grief. She began handmaking and selling scarves, naming the business Donni Charm after her father, Donald. Stein slowly grew her side business while continuing to work at Chanel after graduating, but after some early wholesale success, she decided to focus on Donni Charm full-time. She moved operations to Los Angeles and rebranded to simply Donni. Most significantly, though, she stumbled into designing ready-to-wear clothing, as she wanted specific pieces to style with her scarves. While Stein had no prior clothing design experience, it came naturally to her, and she surprised herself with a full line of 30 SKUs within four weeks, laying the groundwork for the Donni we know and love today.
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1 month ago
59 minutes 47 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: The 2025 Who What Wear 100 Beauty Awards
For our second annual Who What Wear 100 Beauty Awards, Beauty Director Erin Jahns is joined by beauty editors Jamie Schneider, Kaitlyn McLintock, and Maya Thomas for a roundtable discussion about all of their favorite products. After spending months testing items from the buzziest new brands and the industry giants, the team has narrowed their top picks down to 100 items across haircare, skincare, makeup, bodycare, tools, nails, and fragrance. Warning: You may want to listen to this episode with your beauty retailer of choice’s website open for easy, add-to-cart access. The Who What Wear Beauty 100 story is live, so check out the full list here!
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1 month ago
40 minutes 51 seconds

Second Life
Katie Sturino Returns! The Founder of Megababe and Author of Sunny Side Up Is Back
Katie Sturino is the founder of Megababe, the innovative beauty brand known for nontoxic, cult-favorite products like Thigh Rescue and Bust Dust. She's also a body-acceptance advocate with a highly engaged community of close to one million supporters across platforms. Sturino joined Hillary Kerr on Second Life back in 2020 to talk about her winding career path from PR to social media to beauty (listen to her first episode here), but we had to have her back on to discuss her most recent pivot to fiction writing. In this episode, Sturino shares why she decided to write her debut novel, Sunny Side Up, and gets refreshingly candid about the challenges of continuing to transform your career when everyone has feedback. She opens up about what it's like to work with a ghostwriter and where she hopes to take this creative endeavor moving forward. Of course, she also catches us up on the last five years of bootstrapped growth for Megababe and shares what's on the horizon for the business. Buy Sturino's new book, Sunny Side Up, here! (It's Hillary Kerr approved.)
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2 months ago
48 minutes 4 seconds

Second Life
The Who What Wear Podcast: Costuming The Last of Us: Ann Foley on Apocalyptic Realism and Character-Driven Design
Ann Foley is the costume designer behind the grounded and detailed wardrobes of the hit show The Last of Us. In this episode, Foley (whose extensive career also includes work on Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and She Hulk) sits down with Who What Wear Senior Fashion and Social Media Editor Tara Gonzalez to discuss the costume design process for The Last of Us season 2. Foley shares the journey of developing character-driven styles, the inspiration behind the apocalyptic fashion and how it reflected the different environments, and the subtle styling changes that marked character growth after a five-year time jump. She reveals the challenges of costuming an apocalyptic world, why The Last of Us is technically a period piece, the significance of specific items like Joel's jacket and Ellie's Converse, and the collaborative process with actors and showrunners that brought the characters to life.
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2 months ago
38 minutes 25 seconds

Second Life
Shannon Watts: Author and Founder of Moms Demand Action
Shannon Watts is the founder of Moms Demand Action, a prominent grassroots organization fighting gun violence in the United States. She initially aspired to be an investigative journalist, and she earned a journalism degree but transitioned into a career in public relations, spending nearly two decades in corporate communications at companies like Anthem and GE Healthcare. After taking a step back from her career to become a stay-at-home mom, the Sandy Hook tragedy in 2012 spurred her into action, and she founded Moms Demand Action with a simple Facebook group. Leveraging her communications and branding expertise, she transformed the group into a powerful nationwide movement, now part of Everytown for Gun Safety, the largest gun violence prevention organization in the country, with nearly 11 million supporters. She has since been recognized as one of Time’s 100 Most Influential People and a Forbes 50 Over 50 Changemaker. She’s also authored books including Fight Like a Mother and Fired Up. Buy Shannon’s new book here.
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2 months ago
58 minutes 54 seconds

Second Life

Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journeys.