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FEATURING GUILLAUME LONG - For months now, the Trump administration has been building up military hardware in and around the Caribbean and making inflammatory statements implying an impending war with Venezuela. US airstrikes on ships in the region have killed dozens of people under the dubious claim of illegal narcotics shipments. But, in a recent CBS interview, Trump claimed it was unlikely he would launch a war on Venezuela. 

Guillaume Long is a senior research fellow at Center for Economic and Policy Research. He has held several cabinet positions in the government of Ecuador, including Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Culture, and Minister of Knowledge and Human Talent. Most recently, he served as Ecuador’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why the US is bombing ships in the Caribbean and whether Trump will launch a war on Venezuela.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, I feel as though, looking at what Trump is doing in Venezuela, we really need to go back to the very beginning of his term this January, where he signed an executive order declaring drug traffickers to be effectively foreign terrorist: “Designating cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations, and specially-designated global terrorists.” That was the name of his executive order. Is this what he is drawing from, as far as you can tell, in terms of creating his own authority to, to drop bombs and to make threats against Venezuela? 

Guillaume Long: Yeah, I think there's… we have to differentiate a few things. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, naming cartels ‘terrorist organizations’ and, and sort of doubling down on the war on drugs and really sort of heightening and raising the tone of the whole war on drugs, and making that parallel between ‘war on drugs’ and ‘war on terror,’ which is not the first time it's been done. 

The word ‘narcoterrorism’ goes back now, a couple of decades. It was done under the Bush administration as well. But, doing all this, has been one of the aspects of the Trump administration in the Western Hemisphere, and it's in the US policy towards Latin America. And it's part and parcel of a return to Latin America under a security guise, right? 

We are really seeing the United States ‘securitizing,’ I don't really like that verb, but, you know, making security the big deal of the US' approach towards Latin America. It is all about security. Which essentially means US policy towards Latin America right now is all about ‘big stick,’ right? It's about security. It's about, now we're, we're gonna be talking about it. It's about gunboat diplomacy. It's about wielding a big stick and there's not much carrot. It's all about, you know, ‘do this or else.’ 

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FEATURING ELIEL CRUZ - Our nation and our world is overrun with billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power. 

This week, my guest is Eliel Cruz. He is an award-winning organizer, speaker, and writer and co-founder of Gender Liberation Movement, an organization working towards bodily autonomy and self-determination for all. 

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Eliel Cruz: Thank you for having me. I love the ‘bigots and billionaires’ line. They are few, we are many. I’m going to use that…

Sonali Kolhatkar: And that's the point I think for us to cast a focus on social justice organizations that I think a lot of people around the country, you know, think, ‘well, what can I do?’ And it turns out there's a lot of things people can do. There's a lot of organizations out there, but not everyone's aware that they're out there, or have heard of them. So, this is our way of profiling groups like yours. 

Let's talk about Gender Liberation Movement. How do you summarize the work that your organization does? I mean, the title is pretty revealing, but it is broad. What are the main issues that you work on? 

Cruz: Well, the title is broad, purposefully so. So, we are building a lens that's expansive, purposefully, where we can touch on a variety of different issues that gender is a through line for all these issues, whether it be economic justice, climate justice, Palestinian liberation, immigrant justice, reproductive care, gender affirming care, et cetera. 

We see our work as a glue between all these various movements. But our work in particular, we do three areas of work. We do direct action and cultural work, media work, and policy work, all responding to these escalating attacks on gender across the spectrum. 

Our praxis is trans-centered. we don't consider ourselves a trans advocacy organization. My co-founder, Raquel Willis, is a Black trans activist and writer and media strategist. I'm not trans myself but I have been in LGBTQ spaces doing work for a very long time as a queer person. 

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FEATURING HAMZA WALKER - A powerful new art exhibit features pieces that are old. So old that many Americans during the 2020 racial justice uprising felt they had no place being revered in public spaces. More than 140 statues and monuments to the Confederacy, and by extension its legacy of white supremacy, slavery, and racism, were toppled between 2015 and 2020. Hundreds more remain standing. 

Now, a Los Angeles museum is displaying several of these toppled monuments, some still sporting the graffiti of rage, and one, chopped up and reassembled in a grotesque manner by acclaimed artist Kara Walker.

Hamza Walker is the director of The Brick and co-curator of the MONUMENTS exhibition, now on view at The Brick and at the Geffen Contemporary at MOCA. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the exhibit and what led to it.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, let's talk first about this whole controversy around these Confederate era… no, confederate monuments. I wanna clarify, they weren't created or built in during the actual Confederacy. They were built, I understand many of them, of course, they're varied and there's hundreds all over the country, but many of them came up after the Confederacy as a way to keep alive the legacy. And it took many decades then for there to be this national conversation around why we still have these monuments around the country. Is that relatively accurate? 

Hamza Walker: Yes, yes. Yes. They went up I mean, part of the narrative is how did they have a journey, right? In the wake of the Civil War, how did these statues make the journey from the cemetery to public spaces? And how did the men that they celebrate and honor go from being traitors to the union to becoming heroes and paragons of virtue? So that's the kind of story of, or trajectory of these confederate monuments in many cases. 

But the lion's share of them were built in the late 19th and the first quarter of the 20th century. So between, you know, you could say 1890, you know, 1880, 1980 to 1925, 1930. 

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FEATURING FRANK TAMBORELLO - Citing the federal government shutdown as an excuse, President Donald Trump is allowing the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, to expire. This means about 40 million low income Americans nationwide will lose access to food stamps in November. 

Donald Trump’s Department of Agriculture is falsely claiming in a banner at the top of its website, “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Bottom line, the well has run dry.” 

Meanwhile, as states, counties, municipalities, and food pantries scramble to feed millions, advocates and activists declared Tuesday October 28 a SNAP Day of Action. 

Frank Tamborello is co-founder and executive director of Hunger Action Los Angeles, whose mission to end hunger and promote healthy eating in Los Angeles County. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what's at stake as food stamps dry up.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: First, let's talk about where there is money. We have 40-42 , million Americans relying on food stamps, which on average works out to less than $200 worth of vouchers that they can redeem for food at grocery stores, sometimes farmer's markets, et cetera. And that is going to get cut off in November. The government is claiming there's no money, but there are emergency funds that are available and that have traditionally, during shutdowns, been mobilized to ensure that there is no cut in funding. What is happening this time around? Why are people gonna lose food stamps in November unless Trump takes action? 

Frank Tamborello: So, as you mentioned there's a contingency fund. It's about $5 billion and a month of SNAP benefits for the country is about $9 billion. So, they could at least do a partial allotment for people. 

And besides that, we all know that especially this president is very proud of his ability to take executive actions. And so, there are probably numerous other avenues that could be taken to avoid people going hungry. But basically, a political game of chicken is being played and Trump is betting that people will blame the Democrats for the shutdown.

And you pointed out the banner on the USDA website, which is a clear violation of the Hatch Act. In other words, you're not supposed to use your political office for grandstanding in a partisan way, and that's exactly what's happening. So, it's not giving the full story of what the government shutdown is about. 

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FEATURING DEAN BAKER - On October 28, a month into the federal government shutdown, the United States Senate voted for the 13th time on a funding bill to reopen the government. Senate Republicans needed five more Democrats Senators to join them in order to pass the resolution but the opposition party has held firm–for now. 

Republican lawmakers and President Donald Trump want to strip government subsidies from health insurance premiums for plans obtained through the Affordable Care Act but Democrats are refusing. Meanwhile, in response to the deadlock, Americans enrolled under the ACA are already being notified of huge increases to their premiums, a real-time demonstration of the GOP’s desires. 

Trump and the Republican Party currently have no plan to control rising healthcare costs and early on, pivoted to making wild and false claims about Democrats holding out to preserve insurance coverage for undocumented people.

Dean Baker is a senior economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research and author of Rigged: How Globalization and the Rules of the Modern Economy Were Structured to Make the Rich Richer. He recently wrote a clear explanation of the shutdown and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about it.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: I think it's so important for people to really be clear because they're getting such false information from the government. For example, if you go to the USDA's own website right now, at the very top is a banner that says “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as SNAP. Bottom line: The well has run dry.” I mean, that's just the USDA. 

And of course, Republicans in the Senate are also making wild claims. They claim that health insurance premiums would rise no matter what. 

So, let's talk about what's really going on. What is it that Republicans want to do? What are they holding out for? 

Dean Baker: Well, there are two things going on here. One is that they do, as you had mentioned earlier, they wanted to basically gut the subsidies in the Affordable Care Act. They aren't gonna eliminate them altogether 'cause there were subsidies that were put into the act when was first passed back in 2010. 

The immediate issue are the expanded subsidies that were put in place under President Biden during the COVID period, which made it much more affordable, both for people at the low ends. You have a lot of people that, in states where they didn't expand Medicaid, where this allowed them to get coverage for free. And these are low-income people, say 130% of the poverty level. So even paying a hundred, $200 a month for insurance was a really big deal. That's what they faced before that. Those were part of the expanded subsidies, which the Republicans wanna eliminate. 

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FEATURING AHMAD ABUZNAID - Our nation and our world is overrun with billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power. 

This week, our guest is Ahmad Abuznaid, the Executive Director of the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights and USCPR Action. Prior to joining USCPR, Ahmad co-founded the Florida-based Dream Defenders and went on to lead the National Network for Arab American Communities as the Executive Director from 2017 to 2019. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about USCPR's work.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: How do you summarize the work that USCPR does, including the main issue you work on, which of course is Palestine, but how do you summarize the, the, the entirety, if you will, of this issue and what you see as your organizational goals? 

Ahmad Abuznaid: Yeah, that's a great question. We are the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights, and so the title gives you a bit of a sense of what we're about. But in reality, it's deeper than that because since we are in the middle of the United States of America, the biggest backer, the biggest arms provider, and the biggest diplomatic defender of the state of Israel, we actually as tax paying citizens here, have a burden. We have a duty, we have a responsibility, and we should be ending all military aid to the state of Israel. That is our stated mission. That is our stated goal. 

And we believe that that accomplishes two things. That ending of military support to the state of Israel would empower the Palestinian people to be in a greater position to determine our self-determination, our liberation, without the United States of America supporting and supplementing and financing Israel's occupation. 

But on the other hand, that also would put US taxpayers in a greater position to demand where we would like our taxpayer dollars going towards. You know, I think we often hear time and time again how social security benefits need to be cut because they're too expensive. Healthcare costs cannot be supplemented by the government because it's too expensive. We have infrastructure falling apart in this country. We have teacher salaries that we can't afford and schools that are closing down. 

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FEATURING AISHA COFFEY - Federal workers are in the midst of a second crisis. After being devastated by mass firings and furloughs from President Trump and Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the on-going government shutdown is now jeopardizing pay for those remaining on the payroll. 

The federal government employs millions of workers whose jobs entail upholding government services, public safety, enforcing regulations, distributing benefits and more. Now, a new series of shorts called I Do Solemnly Swear, features the voices of government workers pushing back. The series airs on Free Speech TV on Tuesday October 28 at 5 pm Pacific, 8 pm Eastern.

Aisha Coffey is a strategic communications consultant with over 15 years of experience at federal agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). She is the spokesperson and Communications Director for Federal Workers Against DOGE, a grassroots organization representing more than 1,500 federal employees across over 50 agencies who are advocating for labor protections, effective government and the preservation of democracy. 

Aisha Coffey spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the dire situation facing federal workers and how they are speaking out and rising up.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: Before we get to the series of shorts that is gonna air on Free Speech TV called, “I Do Solemnly Swear,” let's talk about what workers have been going through, broadly speaking. As I said, millions of workers are employed, and of those, give us a sense of how many have either been fired or furloughed? What are the numbers we're talking about here of people who work for us, who are impacted negatively by the current administration? 

Aisha Coffey: I gotta say that's a question we all would like to know the answer to. As you know, the administration came in with a bit of chaos, so we don't exactly have the real solid numbers. We've been unable to get those numbers from any agency even up until now. 

We've had to piece together the numbers from what we hear from federal workers from different agencies and, and outside entities that may be trying to keep a tally. By count, right now, the estimate that is that we've lost close to 50,000.

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FEATURING LEONARDO MARTINEZ - On October 16, just before 8 am, Leonardo Martinez, a volunteer with the immigrant rights group VC Defensa, was observing ICE agents in Oxnard, California. It’s something he’d been doing for a while. But this time, ICE agents, who were driving in an unmarked SUV, decided to take a violent turn and rammed Martinez’s pickup truck. 

Not only was Martinez injured during the incident and had to receive medical treatment, but taken into ICE custody and detained for a while at Metropolitan Detention Center in LA. Martinez is a US citizen. Now, he’s speaking out about his experience. 

Leonardo Martinez, volunteer and lead organizer with VC Defensa, an immigrant liberation organization and rapid response network based in Ventura County, California, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about his experience and how his group engages in community defense.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: Welcome to the program, Leo.

Leonardo Martinez: Thank you very much. It's an honor to be on the show. I've been a fan for a very long time. I Appreciate it. 

Kolhatkar: Thank you for joining us. Tell me what it is you do before we get into what happened on October 16th. In fact, I'm speaking to you right now as you're sitting in what looks like a, a minivan and you're imagining in Oxnard, what is it that you have been doing in your capacity as a volunteer with VC Defensa? 

Martinez: Well, one of the, one of the things out of the many things that we do is what everybody saw. The video is where we go patrolling it to keep our community safe. 

But the truth is that the bulk of our time goes into what I'm doing right now, accompanying people to meetings, appointments that they have with immigration. We do a ton of family support. When somebody's detained, we put money on their books. We get our lawyers to support them and focus on getting them out on bail. We have taken kids to the border to reconnect with their family members. We have had to do a whole host of things, because rarely when somebody gets detained, is that the only problem that the family has to face? Right? 

So, we have to deal with everything from car mechanical issues all the way over to taking kids to school and transporting people. There's older folks that we gotta take care of sometimes. So, we really try to do as much as we can to support the families, while at the same time, another huge portion of our responsibilities as an organization is doing a ton of… they're called “know your rights” meetings, I guess, in jest. But the reality of it is that we go so much deeper than that. 

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FEATURING NO KINGS ATTENDEES, LOS ANGELES - Organizers of the October 18 No Kings rally expected five million people to attend about 2,600 gatherings across the United States in a show of opposition to President Donald Trump’s regime.

In Southern California, where this program is based, numerous local gatherings took place, and today as part of our on-going series, Rising Up in the Streets, I bring you a report from Hollywood and downtown LA where a cross section of attendees grappled with the state of the government and their vision for the future of the nation.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: I'm Sonali Kolhatkar, reporting from the No Kings Rally in downtown Los Angeles. It's actually the tail end of the rally. And I was here among thousands of people at Gloria Molina Park right in front of Los Angeles City Hall, where a very, very diverse crowd of people was gathered, reflecting Los Angeles's demographics, but also an interesting political spectrum ranging from people who are aligned with a Democratic party all the way to folks who want a democratic socialist revolution, folks that were wearing kuffiyahs to express their solidarity with Palestine, as well as people who were expressing solidarity with protestors in Portland through large animal costumes, inflatable animal costumes. 

And generally, there was an air of joy and also rage. And so here are some of the interviews that I gathered. I also went to Hollywood on the corner of Vermont and Hollywood where there was a gathering on a street corner, a very, very large gathering on a street corner with signs encouraging people to honk their horns. And there are, are some of the conversations that I had with people on the October 18th, No Kings Day. 

Kim: My name is Kim. I am from Hollywood. And the reason I'm here today is so many reasons. Where to start? The fact that, you know, we have a person in the White House who is a narcissist, a sexual predator, and he just wants power for himself. 

He doesn't care about the American people. He talks about this being a “Hate the America” rally when he's the one that actually hates this country and he's trying to tear us all apart, tear down our infrastructure, our democracy, and everything that makes this country great. 

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FEATURING CHAUMTOLI HUQ - Our nation and our world is overrun with billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power. 

This week, we’re joined by Chaumtoli Huq, founder and editor of Law@theMargins, a law and media nonprofit that amplifies the perspectives of those marginalized by our legal and broader political and economic systems. 

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, we talk to people who are involved in organizations that are very big and very small, and although I understand that your organization has been around for nearly a decade, it is a nimble and small organization. How do you summarize the work that it does, to a national audience, and the main issues that you work on, your organizational goals, if you will?

Chaumtoli Huq: Yes, absolutely. So, you're absolutely right. We've been a nonprofit organization at the intersection of law and media and policy for about a decade. We are primarily a volunteer-driven organization, membership-based, working closely with organizations and individuals who are at the front lines of justice. 

And so, through our work over the years, we've conducted trainings, webinars. We've done, sort of, original reporting on social justice issues such as immigration, housing, national security around global issues, such as around Palestinian liberation, Rohingya genocide. And we have done this through a number of formats, through curated conversations, through original reporting.

And primarily, the role is to provide a counter narrative to some of the established sort of ideas around laws and the legal system and politics. And the goal is, by shifting the narratives, we're able to actually have an impact on the policies. And that's primarily has been our work for the last decade. 

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FEATURING GLO SAHAY - In June 2025, hundreds of thousands of people mobilized in cities around the United States rejecting the idea of modern-day monarchy under the Trump administration. Now, on October 18th, in an event that will be televised on Free Speech TV, a second so-called “No Kings” mobilization promises to be even more wide ranging than the first. 

Glo Sahay is an experienced organizer and IT Professional who ten years ago campaigned for Bernie Sanders and also organized around the Flint water crisis. She founded Political Revolution when the Sanders’ campaign ended and helps to support progressive grassroots candidates nationwide. Her organization helps provide infrastructure support to 50501. Sahay spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the October 18th mobilization.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, I covered the No Kings Rally here in Southern California where I'm based on Los Angeles. And out of curiosity, I went to the No Kings website to see where the LA event would be happening on Saturday. And what I found was overwhelming, literally every city, every town in Southern California, no matter how big or small is having a No Kings mobilization. Some have multiple mobilizations. This definitely seems, at least here where I'm based, much bigger. Give me a sense of the scope of the second No Kings rally and how it compares to what we saw in June of this year. 

Glo Sahay: Absolutely. So right now, we have over 2,500 events which is very nearly close to double of how many events we had on June 14th. In addition to that we have events in almost every single congressional county. There's only 15 in which we do not have events. So, and in terms of RSVPs we are receiving close to 40,000 RSVPs daily. So, this is going to be an extremely momentous event. 

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FEATURING OMAR ZAHZAH - After two long and horrific years, a relentless Israeli bombing campaign centered on a genocidal project of erasing Palestinians in Gaza, has been put on hold. A ceasefire agreement enabled the release of nearly 2,000 Palestinian hostages, in exchange for about 20 Israeli hostages–a mathematical ratio that starkly symbolizes the dehumanization of Palestinians. 

It’s not just physical attacks and erasure that Palestinians have been subject to, but, as Omar Zahzah suggests in a new book, “digital settler colonialism.” 

Zahzah is a writer, poet, organizer of Lebanese Palestinian descent, and Assistant Professor of Arab and Muslim Ethnicities and Diasporas (AMED) Studies at San Francisco State University. He is the author of Terms of Servitude: Zionism, Silicon Valley, and Digital Settler Colonialism in the Palestine Liberation Struggle. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the ceasefire agreement and his new book.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: Before we talk about what's happening in your and what you write about, rather in your book, let's discuss the big news since late last week in what seems to have been a desperate bid to win the Nobel Peace Prize, President Donald Trump basically pushed Benjamin Netanyahu into doing what he and Joe Biden could have pushed him to do for two long years, which is to basically have a ceasefire. 

And I'm wondering if you have any opinions on the way in which the ceasefire is being talked about in the media. It's being seen as this big diplomatic coup for Trump, and it is also being seen as the end of something really, really terrible and the beginning of something bright and beautiful and wonderful. How do you view it? 

Omar Zahzah: That's… it's an important question and I think we need to sort of remind ourselves that what we've witnessed for the past two years is the problem of an unchecked colonial expansionist project being allowed to inflict its violence and devastation with total impunity. 

And so, that essential formulation, I don't think is gonna drastically change. Now, I hope that a ceasefire would result in a paradigm shift, but you really cannot have a substantive paradigm shift unless you actually have international pressure being applied to the Israeli state, which, although we've seen, you know, Trump, and there's been a lot of reporting of his dissatisfaction, you know, his anger at Netanyahu, the kinds of international pressure that needed to be applied against Israel in light of what it has done, which is a genocide and only the most recent genocide in terms of the Palestinian context, is strikingly low. 

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FEATURING RANJANI PRABHAKAR - Our nation and our world is overrun with billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power. 

This week, Ranjani Prabhakar, Legislative Director of Earthjustice's Healthy Communities program, joins us. She is an environmental policy leader, musician, and educator, based in Washington, DC. In her work with Earthjustice, Ranjani leads a team of lobbyists dedicated to advancing legislative and advocacy strategies at the nexus of public health and the environment, ensuring peoples' rights to clean air, clean water, and toxic-free communities. She is also the founder of the Mycelia Arts Lab, an incubator for climate storytelling and creative expression as a means to drive change. 

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So first, tell us specifically what Earthjustice does. It is clearly a climate justice organization, and it has something to do with legal victories, legal battles, but for those among us who don't know much more than that, how do you explain it? 

Ranjani Prabhakar: So, Earthjustice is the country's largest nonprofit environmental law organization. We go to court on behalf of communities, tribes, organizations, at no cost to them, to fight for clean air, safe water, healthy ecosystems and a thriving climate. 

Many folks might hear our slogan become very popular, “The earth needs a good lawyer,” and that is sort of the bread and butter of what we do, sort of wielding the power of the law, on behalf of our clients pro bono. 

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FEATURING S. A. BACHMAN AND BASMAN ALDIRAWI - On this second anniversary of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, we’ll take a look at the cultural resistance, Palestinian and American. In a new book, Art of Defiance: Protest Graphics and Poetry for Palestine, editor S. A. Bachman brings together verse in English and Arabic from the likes of Susan Abulhawa, Refaat Alareer, and Saul Williams.

The book, whose proceeds benefit the families of those poets who have been killed, as well as Palestinian aid and justice organizations, is a physical work and also an e-book. Its art is designed to be printed up as protest posters.

Sonali Kolhatkar spoke with S.A. Bachman, editor of Art of Defiance, and an artist, activist, and educator, and Basman Aldirawi, speaking from Cairo, Egypt. Aldirawi is a Palestinian physiotherapist, writer and poet from Gaza whose work is featured in Art of Defiance. He has contributed dozens of stories and poems to the online platform We Are Not Numbers and other outlets including ArabLit, Mondoweiss and Vivamost. He is also co-author of the book, Light in Gaza: Writings Born of Fire, and the Arabic poetry anthology; Gaza, the land of poetry.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: Let me start with you, S. A. This very, very grim two-year anniversary is an opportunity for us to talk about not only what's happening in Gaza, but about the cultural resistance, artistic resistance to it. S. A., start with the description of your book, the Art of Resistance, how did you put this together? Who is involved? You have a collection of basically poetry and visuals, right? 

S. A. Bachman: Correct. And the book was initially inspired by two directors from the Freedom Theater, which is in the West Bank. And they once said that the third Intifada would be fought not just in the streets, but through theater, through music, through visual art and through poetry. 

So, I felt like I had to use the skills that I have to do something, to push back, and I didn't feel that dissent was optional, it was compulsory. So, I began to reach out and start to talk to some poets, and one thing led to another, and each poet led me to another poet. 

And I ended up with an incredible collection of both young poets from Gaza and then a handful of very well-known poets. And then that poetry is juxtaposed with protest posters that I've done since October 2023, as well as other kinds of documentation that are specific to this genocide. 

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FEATURING ILAN PAPPE - Two years into Israel’s worst chapter of genocide in Gaza, the question arises, can the state of Israel simply continue acting in impunity unchallenged? Under the extremist leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, what can Israel’s future be, and, by extension, the future of the Palestinian people? 

In a powerful new book, historian Ilan Pappe imagines a more hopeful future, one that he hopes will come about via 8 “mini revolutions” that includes “Relocating the Right of Return of the Palestinian refugees to the center of the future vision.”

Ilan Pappe is a professor of history at the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exeter in the UK and the director of the university’s European Centre for Palestine Studies. His books include The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and A History of Modern Palestine. He writes for the Guardian, the London Review of Books, and elsewhere. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Italy to discuss his latest book, Israel on the Brink, And the Eight Revolutions that Could Lead to Decolonization and Coexistence.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: Two years into this genocide, and there seems no end in sight. Is this the breaking point for Israelis and Palestinians? 

Ilan Pappe: I hope it is. I think unfortunately, we are not yet there at the breaking point. I think we should be talking about two different stages. 

One that maybe is in the making, which is the establishment of a longer ceasefire that will bring some sort of end to the bombing, maybe to exchange of prisoners. That could happen within a few months, I hope, sooner rather than later, of course, especially for the sake of the people of Gaza, and which will distinguish this from a more significant change in the reality, which I'm afraid is not due very, very soon. 

And, definitely the current efforts of the so-called peace mediation, including the, the Trump 21-point program are not really getting us there. 

So, there is a difference between a wish for a tactical rest, if you want, in the genocide or break, and a more fundamental change that would prevent a different kind of genocide, an incremental one, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and the continued aggressive Israeli policies, not only towards the Palestinians, but also towards its neighboring Arab countries.

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FEATURING PLESTIA ALAQAD - It's been two years since Israel began its latest and worst genocidal chapter in Gaza. On October 7, 2023, after a Hamas attack that left more than a thousand Israelis dead and hundreds captured, Israel launched a relentless, 2-year long attack that killed on the order of 70,000 Palestinians. That number, when accounting for lack of food and medical aid, is likely far higher. Among those Israel has targeted and killed have been countless journalists. 

In a new book by young Palestinian journalist Plestia Alaqad, we learn what it was like to see Gaza through her eyes. Alaqad covered the beginning of the genocide and watched her colleagues and fellow Palestinians being massacred before fleeing to Australia. 

“Plestia Alaqad became our eyes in Gaza and has forever taken a huge piece of our hearts. In this series of diary entries, she welcomes us to live through the Genocide again but, this time, with greater intimacy,” writes Palestinian American attorney and academic Noura Erekat. 

Plestia Alaqad has won international awards for her coverage of the genocide and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Lebanon about her new book, The Eyes of Gaza: A Diary of Resilience.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So your coverage of the first few months, a few weeks maybe of the genocide was so harrowing that I'm wondering if you can tell us, not necessarily what it was like there—people can read that—but what it felt like for you as a young person growing up in Gaza, having dreams of becoming all sorts of different things, and what led to you becoming this person through whose eyes we were able to see what was happening in Gaza. What was that transition like? 

Plestia Alaqad: I actually reported in Gaza for 45 days, but people think I was there for months. And I sometimes feel like that I was there reporting for years because even though it's only 45 days, but it was so extreme and I saw things that I never expected to see. I never expected that we live in a world where a genocide is allowed. And what I can't even understand or imagine is that it's been two years of the genocide and it's still going on the.

Unfortunately Israel succeeded in isolating Gaza from the rest of the world. So, the hard part really is, is like as a person being born and raised Gaza my whole life, when you're outside of Gaza, you realize that things have different meanings than they do in Gaza. Meaning in Gaza, when you see a tent, it's always like a negative thing. It means displacement. Outside of Gaza, it means camping. 

How in Gaza you're always afraid of looking at the sky of like, oh my God, is this bomb? Is this smoke? But outside of Gaza it's different. So that really is the hard part after surviving a genocide, just understanding and processing everything you went through and how your experience is basically different from the experience of the rest of the world and how your life in Gaza isn't normal. 

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FEATURING YLIANA JOHANSEN-MENDEZ - Our nation and our world is overrun with billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power. 

This week, Yliana Johansen-Méndez, Chief Program Officer of Immigrant Defenders Law Center  joins us.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, Immigrant Defenders [Law Center] suggests you defend immigrants, but that's vague. Let's get deeper into the details of what it is that your organization does. You work on immigration, but how? What specifically are you doing? 

Yliana Johansen-Mendez: So, Immigrant Defenders Law Center we're commonly known as ImmDef. We're a law firm. We're a nonprofit law firm. We provide free legal services. and we're really founded on the principle that no immigrant should be alone in the immigration system. That everyone should have a qualified, competent immigration specialized attorney at their side in their deportation process. 

And so that's, that's kind of the foundation of our work, is that direct representation and removal defense. But our work is really a lot more expansive than that, now. We have to be, we've had to change to adapt to a constantly changing field and really focus on making the whole immigration system more just not just, through immigration deportation defense, but also through community education and through really strategic litigation. 

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FEATURING JONATHAN ROSENBLUM - There was a time when socialists were so rare in elected office, most people could cite only Bernie Sanders and Eugene Debs as having power. Today, more people are proudly wearing the mantle of “socialist” as capitalism’s failures become ever-apparent. For that, we can thank not just the likes of Sanders,  but Kshama Sawant who is arguably far bolder than the Vermont Senator. 

When Sawant, an Indian immigrant, burst into the local political scene in Seattle, running for a City Council on an overtly anticapitalist agenda, many people, including Jonathan Rosenblum, were skeptical. Jonathan has helped workers throughout North America organize, bargain, and strike in a wide range of industries—warehousing and logistics, higher education, healthcare, and public service.

During Kshama Sawant’s decade on the Seattle City Council, he worked on her council staff and as an election campaigner. He is the author of We're Coming for You and Your Rotten System: How Socialists Beat Amazon and Upended Big-City Politics and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the new book.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: So, I said that you were initially skeptical, and that's how you start your book. You were skeptical of Sawant because she showed up to an event, a rally for SeaTac airport workers, who, more than a decade ago were lobbying for pushing for a $15 an hour minimum wage. Lay out that scene for us where you first encountered Kshama Sawant and how she struck you, how her brand of politics struck you initially with a little fear, and then you came around. 

Jonathan Rosenblum: Yeah, This was my first encounter with, with Kshama and the organization that she had belonged to at the time, socialist Alternative. And they came down to SeaTac Washington, miles south of Seattle in 2013, where airport workers were fighting to get an initiative on the ballot there for a $15 minimum wage, which they were successful at doing, and they were successful in winning a few months later. 

And, Kshama spoke at this public hearing, and you know, compared to the other speakers who are very modest and moderate in their tone, seeking to persuade a fairly conservative electorate in SeaTac to vote for this transformative wage increase for airport workers, Kshama held nothing back and talked about the maladies of capitalism and why we needed to fight not just the corporations, but the mainstream political parties, both the Republicans and the Democrats, who were holding workers back. 

And I was really, frankly, a little bit askance at the sharpness of her tone. But then after the meeting, just talking to the airport workers who were there about who they liked hearing from at the hearing everyone said to a person we liked that Indian lady from Seattle. And I realized that Kshama had had tapped a core emotion, energy that workers had, that they'd been screwed, time and again by the system. 

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FEATURING ALEX FERRER - As the cost of housing continues to be out of reach of many Americans, millions are burdened with rent and eviction-related debt that they cannot pay. 

Now, the Debt Collective has organized a rent debt strike against Equity Residential, the fifth largest landlord in the nation and the largest in the city of Los Angeles, where tenants recently successfully pushed back against deceptive utility bills.

Alex Ferrer, an organizer with the Debt Collective, working with tenants towards the abolition of their post eviction rental debt, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the renters strike.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: The Debt Collective often, for folks who are familiar with the organization, has been associated with college debt, with student debt. Tell me what the issue for “rent debt” is and why the organization has included or expanded its work to include rent-related debt. 

Alex Ferrer: Totally. I think that's, that's our historic focus on student debt and medical debt and all other forms of burdensome debt, I think is actually really congruous with this issue of rental debt because it's another area in which a basic human necessity, that is housing, is being a place in which people are becoming deeply indebted because we're being denied the means to live without debt. So, the high cost of housing and the, the post eviction rent debt arrears are, I think, very similar to other arrears of focus for the Debt Collective. and we see these issues as totally congruous. 

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FEATURING SIMONE PRICE - California’s incarcerated firefighters may win a huge pay bump if Gov. Gavin Newsom signs a bill that’s just reached his desk. AB 247 would raise the minimum wage for this group of workers from below-minimum wage to $7.25 an hour. 

As global warming triggers fire seasons that are longer and deadlier than normal, California’s reliance on incarcerated firefighters grows. But they are often treated as dispensable. 

Simone Price is the Director of Organizing at the Center for Employment Opportunities, where she oversees a program designed to center the voices of formerly incarcerated people at the local and federal level. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about AB 247.

NOTE: In an earlier version of this interview, Sonali erroneously cited the original proposed pay increase of $19 an hour. That amount was adjusted down to $7.25.

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Sonali Kolhatkar: I think those people who may not live in fire zones or outside California may not really be aware to the extent that we as a state rely on incarcerated firefighters. I'm near Altadena. It was a big story in January of this year about how incarcerated firefighters made a huge difference to the ability to save property and lives. 

Tell us how much the state is relying on, and increasingly so, on incarcerated firefighters. 

Simone Price: Yeah of course, I mean this past January as Los Angeles experienced one of the most destructive wildfires, I think it came to the world's attention just how often the state is relying upon currently incarcerated people who are working on these fire crews. 

But it's actually been a trend that's evolved and increased over time. And for the past several wildfire seasons, about a third of the emergency responses that were deployed to fires were currently incarcerated people. And this past January, those numbers were 40%. So, it's very often incarcerated folks who are working side by side with their Calfire counterparts, but who are currently serving a sentence and receiving not only far below minimum wage, but about $5 to $10 per day and as much as a dollar per hour in an emergency situation. So far, far below minimum wage.