Send us a text In this episode I continue my conversation with the husband and wife grace team, Mike and Susan Adams, hosts of the podcasts The UnSunday Show and The Grace Café. In the last episode, they each shared their stories of how they met Jesus and why they started their podcasts. In this episode we focus our conversation on the covenants found in the Bible. We will be discussing the way certain churches have created a whole belief system called covenant theology. This system is ...

Send us a text I’m thrilled to welcome guests Mike and Susan Adams, who self- identify as the husband and wife grace team. They are the creators and hosts of 2 podcasts: The UnSunday Show, which asks honest questions about the origin and validity of institutional church rules, traditions, and practices. They engage in conversations around the freedom we’ve been given apart from empty religious obligation. The other podcast is called The Grace Cafe, where they both share more about their own j...

Send us a text In this episode I’m joined again by my daughter as we discuss the interview I recently posted in S2E4 with Dr. Andrew Bauman, author of Safe Church: How to Guard Against Sexism and Abuse in Christian Communities. You can find all of Dr.Bauman’s resources here: Andrew's website Follow him on Facebook and here on Instagram Buy the Safe Church book here Other abuse support: Outreach Inc- a resource to support spiritual abuse survivors OPC Presbyterian Advocacy Coalition Presbyte...

Send us a text I’m thrilled to welcome to this episode Dr. Andrew Bauman. A therapist and author, he is Founder & Director of the Christian Counseling Center For Sexual Health & Trauma alongside his wife Dr. Christy Bauman. Andrew is the author of 7 books including The Sexually Healthy Man, Stumbling Toward Wholeness, and The Psychology of Porn. We will be discussing his newest book Safe Church, which is an honest look at how misogyny masquerades as biblical truth. It is m...

Send us a text My daughter joins me again as we unpack the last episode where I interviewed Peter Bell of the Sons of Patriarchy podcast. We discuss how the exposure of abuse stories by the SOP resonated with our own experiences in that denomination. You can find all the offerings for abuse survivors by the Sons of Patriarchy here: Sons of Patriarchy Apple podcast Sons of Patriarchy YouTube Sons of Patriarchy Instagram Sons of Patriarchy links to Google drive documents of OPC abus...

Send us a text In this episode I interview Peter Bell, creator of the Sons of Patriarchy podcast which is described as : “What happens when biblical patriarchy, christian nationalism, and a theology of authority and submission become the pillars of a movement? Scores of abuse stories in marriages, schools, churches, families, and more.” Sons of Patriarchy Apple podcast Sons of Patriarchy YouTube Sons of Patriarchy Instagram Sons of Patriarchy links to Google drive documents of OPC abuse...

Send us a text This is the first episode of our second season. You’ll find the bulk of our story in the episodes of season one. I am joined again by my daughter on this kickoff episode as we reflect on season one and share the direction the podcast will take from here. We welcome all feedback and want to hear your stories. You can reach us at the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com

Send us a text I'm going solo again in this episode, reviewing a book by Pastor Terran Williams called How God Sees Women: The End of Patriarchy. It explores the roots of Christian patriarchy and how culture- not the Bible- has formed much of the Church's opinions of women over the centuries. Here are the other links mentioned in this episode: The Danvers Statement Interview: What happens when a pastor sets out to prove complementarianism Instagram reel of a "scold's bridle" September ...

Send us a text We wrap up our conversation with Cait West, author of RIFT: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy. Cait's Instagram Cait's Facebook Cait's website Below you'll find resources Cait suggests for engaging in a healing journey from spiritual trauma: Tears of Eden Survivors Discuss podcast For those interested in exploring the transition of Old Covenant to New: My Instagram page @All.Things.New We welcome all feedback and comments. You can always rea...

Send us a text We are honored to be joined by Cait West, author of RIFT: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy. My daughter and I dialog with her about the book and the story behind it, as well as our shared connection to the same high control denomination where we encountered harm. You can find RIFT here Cait's Instagram Cait's Facebook Cait's website As always, we welcome your comments and feedback. You can reach us at the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com

Send us a text In this episode we continue with part 2 of our book review of the new memoir by Cait West called RIFT. We pick up with discussing the views both in the book and in our former congregation around singleness, courtship, and marriage. If you are needing resources related to mental health and/or spiritual trauma, find links below that have been personally helpful to us: RIFT by Cait West Podcast: The Place We Find Ourselves Podcast: The Allender Center Book: A Church Called Tov Boo...

Send us a text In this episode we discuss a new spiritual trauma memoir called RIFT. The author grew up in the same denomination that we left and therefore we each find her book insightful and relatable. RIFT by Cait West purchasing link Cait's Instagram page As always, we welcome your feedback and comments. You can reach us at the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com.

Send us a text I'm going solo in this episode, sharing the story of my life that led me to join a high control religious (HCR) community. Our stories always lead the way and to attune to them and their power over our choices is to gain clarity. Here are the links mentioned in this episode: Rift by Cait West All.Things.New Instagram page As always, we welcome your comments and feedback at the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com

Send us a text This is the final installment of my conversation with a former member of the same church we left. In the past two episodes she has shared some of the reasons they were attracted to the church in the first place as well as aspects of her childhood story of religious trauma that she was beginning to see in this church’s culture. In this last chapter my guest shares the final red flags and events that drove them to leave the congregation. As always, we welcome your co...

Send us a text In this episode I continue my conversation with another former member of the same church community we left. She shares in particular how she suffered under religious trauma as a child in a patriarchal home and how it both impacted and clarified her experience in this rigid faith community. Here are links to the resources mentioned in the episode: ⁠Cultivating Kids, Enriching Parents⁠ ⁠Thy Rod and Staff They Comfort Me⁠ ⁠Facebook page⁠ ⁠Instagram page⁠ ⁠ Instagram page⁠ ⁠...

Send us a text In this episode I am joined by a guest who was also a member of the same high- control church. She shares her family's attraction to the community in the first place and what were some of the initial red flags that ultimately led to their departure. This episode does discuss spanking and other sensitive topics so may not be appropriate for small children. Link mentioned in episode: G.R.A.C.E.: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment

Send us a text In this episode we discuss the uncomfortable feeling of cognitive dissonance we experienced in our high control religious culture. Intense self doubt and feelings of confusion characterized many of our years there as the black-and-white teaching collided with what our gut was telling us. We had a choice to make, and it wasn't easy. As always we love to hear from our listeners and invite those who have had similar experiences to join us a guest on future episodes. You can...

Send us a text In this episode we discuss the roles of men and women in the church as well as the presence of patriarchy. As always, we welcome your comments and feedback at: the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com

Send us a text In this episode we pick up where we left off from Episode 4 discussing Education & Homeschooling (Part 1) . The perspective of a child raised in a high control church culture is again insightful, rare, and essential. We would love to hear your stories of being homeschooled, good or bad. You can contact us at: the.rest.podcast.info@gmail.com

Send us a text In this episode we will be discussing how our church's high control culture affected how families educated their children. The perspective of a child growing up in this environment is particularly critical to know, as it is often overlooked when considering educational choices. We will continue this story in Part 2 ~Episode 5. We would love to hear your stories of growing up under the influence of homeschooling. You can reach us by email : the.rest.podcast.in...