🎙 Episode 84 – Coming into Alignment: Chiropractor Dr. Kate Flynn, 3/5 Emotional Generator
In this episode of Real Human Design Stories, I talk with Dr. Kate Flynn, a 3/5 Emotional Generator and chiropractor who bridges science and energetics through her work and her Human Design experiment.
Kate and her 3/5 Splenic Projector husband took the third-line leap of a lifetime—selling everything, moving to Ecuador, and learning firsthand what it means to let the body lead. We explore the power of embodiment, the messages the body sends through the feet, and how restoring communication between mind and movement can shift everything.
Kate shares how her Body First program helps people reconnect with their instincts and find true alignment through simple, daily movement. This conversation is for anyone who’s ready to ground their experiment in the body and live from the wisdom that’s already within.
✨ Learn more about Dr. Kate Flynn: https://howtohuman.guide
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In this episode of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Jonah Dempcy, founder of the High Desert Human Design Conference and author of the new #1 Amazon release The Human Design Cult.
Jonah shares his 19-year journey within the Human Design System—from deep devotion and mystical experiences to the moment he began questioning the community’s culture of authority. We talk about what led him to write The Human Design Cult, how he now views the system through psychological and spiritual frameworks, and what Radical Self-Trust looks like after leaving something that once defined him.
📘 Order the book: The Human Design Cult on Amazon
💻 Connect with Jonah: High Desert Human Design
🎥 Watch Jonah’s reading: YouTube Excerpt
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In this episode of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Carla Unger—a 2/4 Emotional Generator with a Triple Split Definition on the Right Angle Cross of Contagion.
Carla shares her powerful story of resilience after closing her wellness center during COVID, losing her grandmother, and experiencing miscarriage—all of which led her to Human Design. We talk about her early experiments with strategy and authority, her connection to Gate 14 and prosperity beyond money, and how she blends essential oils with Human Design to support emotional and physical wellbeing.
Episode Highlights
Carla’s wellness journey and personal challenges
Discovering Human Design and first experiments
Variables, cold brew coffee, and magical synchronicities
Honoring your “yes” and “no”
Gate 14, prosperity, and the Cross of Contagion
Fundraising for Henry’s Place & teaching massage
Blending Human Design with essential oils
🌐 Connect & Resources
Connect with Carla: wellnesswithcarla.com
Run your free Human Design chart: KathyBochonko.com
Get your Karmic Attraction Report (Unconscious Moon): kathybochonko.com/shop/unconscious-moon/
✨ Real people. Real stories. Real Human Design.
Sharing What Matters Most: Carla Unger, 2/4 Emotional Generator, RAX Contagion
🌕 Real Human Design Stories – Episode 81In Episode 81 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m joined by my dear collaborator Jess Tilly to share something that’s been deeply transformational for both of us: working with karma through our Human Design charts—specifically through the unconscious moon.This is a shorter episode, but one with big impact. We each tell the story of how our own unconscious moon placements (mine in Gate 1.4 and Jess’s in Gate 47) revealed hidden emotional patterns and ancestral influences—and how those stories cracked something open for us during a powerful masterclass in Austin.⸻👤 Guest Introduction: Jess TillyJess Tilly is a 4/6 Sacral Generator and co-creator of The Unwinding, An Intentional Unwinding of Karmic Threads and Conditioned Beliefs. She’s one of the most joy-filled, heart-centered people I know—always inviting transformation with a spark of laughter and grounded truth. In this episode, Jess and I share share our personal stories of Karma Clearing with Human Design. I'll tell you about the insights and experiences that came through from my maternal grandmother via my Unconscious moon in gate 1. Jess shares a deeply personal story about being cracked open by the very gate she resisted most: her unconscious moon in Gate 47.⸻💬 Main Discussion Points• 00:00 – Welcome and what this episode is about• 00:21 – The unconscious moon as a karmic entry point• 01:43 – Kathy’s Gate 1.4 story: family roles, direction, and the feminine lineage• 07:47 – Jess’s Gate 47 experience: the day everything cracked open• 14:22 – What we’ve created from this work: The Unwinding• 17:06 – Feedback from others going through this process⸻✨ Quotes from the Episode“I kept finding myself saying no to things because of how they would make other people in my life feel.” – Kathy Bochonko“I was like, ‘Hopeless? Not me.’ And then… it found me.” – Jess Tilley“These experiences are happening either way. The power is in the awareness.” – Jess Tilley⸻🔗 Ways to Connect More DeeplyWe’d love for you to explore your own karmic themes and join us in this work. Here’s how to take the next step:• Start with your Unconscious MoonDownload the free Karma Attraction Guide to explore the hidden emotional themes in your chart:https://kathybochonko.com/shop/unconscious-moon/• Watch the Karma by Design Masterclass ReplayThis 90-minute workshop walks you through the unconscious moon with guided reflections:https://www.corecalling.com/karma-by-design-masterclass• Join The UnwindingA monthly experience to gently unravel karmic threads and conditioned beliefs using Human Design, storytelling, and reflection.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jZMfyvm6mTNCwOtErCf65bO-nJ2pJO36_JyX1WsFODU/edit?usp=sharing• Want more context on Karma Clearing by Design™?Listen to Episode 80, which includes reflections on our experience with Chetan Parkyn’s teachings:https://youtu.be/uCqs_oGd9E0?si=QrJ4G-i0WranbhOhYou can also go deeper with the full original episode from our time in Austin (Episode 54):https://youtu.be/JbfGHamLjJ0?si=eJTGpxf0VMGu3BT9• Find all these links in one placeVisit the episode page at: https://www.realhumandesignstories.com⸻📣 Stay Connected• Follow Real Human Design Stories on your favorite podcast platform• Share this episode with someone who’s curious about karma or emotional healing• Watch more episodes on YouTube at @KathyBochonko• Join the conversation in the Intuitive Human Design Facebook group• Explore mentoring, readings, and services at https://kathybochonko.com
This is the conversation that started an entire evolution for me.
In this clip from my original interview with Chetan Parkyn (Episode 54), he shares the powerful roots of his Karma Clearing process—from teaching in China to uncovering the role of the unconscious Venus in how we give and receive love. This was my first exposure to this work, and it sparked the journey that eventually became Karma by Design.
✨ Learn how Human Design and ancestral healing come together in this transformational conversation.
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🔗 Connect with Chetan Parkyn
Explore his work and offerings at https://www.evolutionaryhumandesign.com
⏳ Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro to Human Design
01:20 – Genetic Inheritance & Karma
01:55 – Teaching in China
03:56 – Unconscious Venus
04:48 – Karma Clearing Process
06:00 – Ancestral Presence
09:11 – Soul Agreements & Relationship Patterns
10:49 – Radical Self-Love
11:10 – NASA & Lost Genius
15:31 – Finding Your Karma Keys
17:50 – Stories of Transformation
#HumanDesign #KarmaClearing #AncestralHealing #ChetanParkyn #RadicalSelfTrust #RealHumanDesignStories
🎙 Episode 79In this special episode of Real Human Design Stories, I switch seats and become the guest as Jess Tilly interviews me about what’s changing—both in my business and in the podcast. We explore the deeper layers of my Human Design experiment, including how radical self-trust became the foundation for every pivot I’ve made. From editing this episode myself for the first time to rethinking what it means to be seen, this conversation is full of insight, laughter, and clarity in motion.⏱ Timestamps0:00 Introduction to Real Human Design Stories00:27 A Unique Episode: Kathy Becomes the Guest00:42 Meet Jess Tilly: The Interviewer02:29 Introducing Kathy Bochonko03:49 Kathy’s Journey with Human Design11:35 The Evolution of the Podcast17:51 The Pivot: Embracing Change and Creativity28:57 Embracing the Beauty of Possibilities29:22 Understanding Recognition in Human Design30:15 The Dynamics of Projector and Generator Interactions31:27 The Complexity of Aura Mechanics32:59 The Importance of Authentic Self-Expression35:42 Navigating Multiple Interests and Talents38:52 The Power of Radical Self-Trust41:37 Celebrating Individual Style and Authenticity48:00 Upcoming Events and Offerings54:39 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement🔗 Mentioned in This EpisodePrevious episodes mentioned–Ep 67 Pivoting to Your Dream Life with Jess Tilly, 4/6 Sacral Generatorhttps://youtu.be/KIj1WJXcpgM?si=me72xtIsGnqIs3LlMy solo episodesEp 64 Rest, Recognition & the Courage to Slow Downhttps://youtu.be/GbNvVNp3LUg?si=-n2d11zrv_6s586h Ep 68 A Year of Radical Self Trusthttps://youtu.be/ALf_PnHdKB8?si=f4ZkWjXVk1TqwOhi Ep 33 Embracing Authenticity: My Transformational Path as a 6/2 Emotional Projectorhttps://youtu.be/z8OF-AFSJHM?si=GbjNnmq6IOmLcaOq 🌟 Karma Clearing by Design: Free Masterclass 📅 June 11 at 1:11 PM EDT (Replay available for all who register) Sign up here → https://www.corecalling.com/karma-by-design-masterclass💛 Ready to Work Together? Book an Intuitive Human Design reading or explore mentorship: → https://kathybochonko.com/servicesConnect with Jess Tilly:→ https://JessTilly.com🌞 Transit Talk: Real Talk in Real Time Join Jess and me for Human Design insights every 6 days, streamed live in the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group or catch the recordings here on YouTube or your favorite podcast platforms. Expect real conversations, shared experiences, and plenty of laughs.🪩💃I’m hosting the Shine Your Light Dance Experience at the International Human Design Conference in ColoradoTap Into Your Energy, Awaken Your Joy, and Dance Like You Mean It Grab your ticket here while early bird pricing is still available http://humandesignconference.com/?ref=100 👯♀️🌼Join me for 🌟 Embodied JoyGet Out of Your Head & Into Your Joy: A Movement Experience for Radical Self-Trust at the Santa Fe HDHD ConferenceI’ll add my affiliate link in the comments as soon as it’s ready.
In Episode 78 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m joined by the radiant Jahje Ives—a 5/1 Emotional Manifestor with the Left Angle Cross of Education. Jahje is a Human Design guide, transformational coach, and intuitive artist whose work channels beauty, emotion, and spirit through both language and paint.
We explore the cycles of creative energy, what it means to honor the urge instead of force the output, and how Human Design helped her transform grief into deep creative purpose. This episode is a love letter to art, trust, and becoming who you really are—when creativity calls.
A conversation on creative cycles, channeled art, and the power of trusting the urge.
Jahje Ives is a 5/1 Emotional Manifestor known for her vibrational, intuitive artwork and her powerful presence as a coach and Human Design guide. Raised in a Sufi community, Jahje brings spiritual depth and emotional truth to everything she touches—from the art studio to the coaching container. Her previous work has been featured by Nordstrom, Crate & Barrel, Vogue, HGTV, and more.
00:00 Into
00:30 Meet Jahje
01:30 Jahje’s Early Life and Spiritual Journey
02:16 Discovering Human Design
03:40 Impact of Human Design Reading
10:17 Personal Loss and Transformation
16:47 Creative Journey and Business Ventures
20:30 Artistic Evolution and Human Design
31:19 Upcoming Projects and Collaborations
32:06 Creative Process and Inspirations
34:10 Personal and Professional Adventures
35:08 Human Design and Personal Growth
38:41 Sufi Upbringing and Spiritual Insights
47:30 Marriage and Personal Relationships
53:32 Client Work and Services
56:29 Understanding the Left Angle Cross of Education
59:40 Conclusion and Contact Information
“When the energy is gone, it’s done.” – Jahje Ives
“I don’t plan the art—I open to it.” – Jahje Ives
“The creative urge isn’t something you can schedule.” – Jahje Ives
“You have the answers. Human Design just gives you the map back to yourself.” – Jahje Ives
Visit Jahje’s website – https://www.jahjeives.com
Follow Jahje on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jahjeives
Explore Jahje’s Art & Portrait Offerings – https://www.jahjeives.com/art
Learn more about the 64 Gates Project – https://www.jahjeives.com/humandesign
Listen to more episodes – https://www.realhumandesign.com/podcast
And don’t forget: you can visit https://www.realhumandesignstories.com and find the episode page for this conversation to view Jahje’s Human Design chart and see some of her beautiful art.
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Don’t miss this heart-opening, art-fueled conversation with Jahje Ives. Whether you’re an artist, a Manifestor, or just someone learning to trust your own cycles—you’ll find something here that stirs your soul.
Peace Out ✌🏻🌼
Guest Introduction:Timestamps:Memorable Quotes:Resources & Ways to Connect:Call to Action:Conclusion:
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Death, Rebirth & the Shamanic Path of Shebala, Queen of Lions
3/5 Sacral Manifesting Generator | Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix
In Episode 77 of Real Human Design Stories, I’m joined by the radiant force that is Shebala, Queen of Lions. Once an MIT MBA and award-winning brand marketer, Shebala now walks a very different path—as a shamanic healer, intuitive guide, and energetic powerhouse. We talk death and rebirth (literally), energetic resets, ancestral connection, and how Human Design helped her integrate it all.
Shebala is a 3/5 Sacral Manifesting Generator living out the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Her work now bridges spiritual initiation and grounded integration, helping others move through their own rebirth cycles. She blends her ancestral roots—Bayaka pygmies of the Central African Republic and the Akan people of Ghana—with Human Design, energy medicine, and intuitive channeling. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when the Phoenix actually rises—this episode is for you.
00:40 – From Santa Fe to Austin: how we met
02:50 – Shebala’s Human Design awakening (and her initial skepticism)
06:30 – Losing everything, finding something deeper
11:15 – The money channel and following her sacral
13:30 – The truth about being a Sleeping Phoenix
18:10 – Death, breathwork, and the name Shebala
22:05 – Living multiple charts and energetic resets
27:00 – Werewolf spine cracking and becoming the butterfly
32:15 – The power, presence, and intimacy in her chart
35:20 – From corporate branding to sacred medicine
42:55 – Family reactions, love, and support on the wild ride
49:25 – Channeling begins: ancestors, poems, and the roar
55:00 – Breaking out of the Human Design dogma
60:55 – What she offers now and how to work with her
Quotes from the Episode“I died. Twice. And I came back with a roar.” – Shebala“Human Design became my path to compassion.” – Shebala“I was trying to guide people with my sacral… but I needed to wait for recognition.” – Shebala“We’re not our chart—we’re who we are in this moment.” – Shebala“There’s power in the presence. That’s the real medicine.” – Shebala5.
Connect with Shebala – https://shebala.com
Follow her on Instagram – @shebalaqueenoflions
Looking to explore your own Human Design?
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Shebala doesn’t just talk about transformation—she lives it. If you’ve ever felt like your old life was dissolving and something deeper was calling you forward, her story will remind you that you’re not alone—and you’re not crazy. This is the work of the Phoenix. Thanks for listening, and don’t miss our next episode where we dive even deeper into what it means to truly live your design.
Peace Out ✌🏻🌼
Episode 76: Harmony in the Undergrowth - Juliana Christine, 3/5 Splenic ProjectorIn this episode, Kathy Bochonko introduces Juliana Christine, a 3/5 Splenic Projector, who shares her transformative journey through psychology and human design. Juliana discusses her unique approach as a relationship mentor and somatic psychotherapist, integrating earth wisdom and womb devotion to help women live authentically. She recounts her initial encounters with human design and how it profoundly changed her life. The conversation touches upon family dynamics, personal challenges, and the healing power of nature. Juliana also elaborates on her programs Sanctuary and Relationship Alchemy, which aim to redefine relationships through the lens of human design and natural wisdom.
Timestamps:
00:30 Introduction to Juliana Christine
02:09 Juliana’s Human Design Journey Begins
05:26 Discovering Projector Bitterness
08:21 Impact of Human Design on Relationships
16:50 Exploring Splenic Authority
24:16 Family Dynamics Influenced by Human Design
32:15 Understanding Aura and Identity Center
33:13 ‘The Heartbreak Hotel’: Dealing with Undefined Centers
34:23 Deep Conversations on Family Dynamics
35:34 Overcoming Struggles with Transformative Insights
38:46 Nature’s Healing Power
42:25 Lessons from Nature for Relationships
48:11 Managing Relationships and Personal Growth
55:46 Changing Family Dynamics
59:12 Karma Clearing and Generational Patterns
01:03:34 Programs and Contact Information
Connect with Juliana Christine:Juliana welcomes engagement through her platforms where she continues to share insights into human design, relationships, and holistic wellness. Visit her website at JulianaChristine.com or follow her on YouTube at Juliana Christine to explore more of her work and upcoming events
.Connect with Kathy:Join the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group: Sign up for the Karma Clearing by Design Masterclass with Jess Tilly, based on the transformative teachings of Chetan Parkyn, and engage with Kathy and the community for more insights.
Visit Kathy’s Website: Access your free chart, explore in-depth reports, learn about readings, mentorship opportunities, and find out more about your human design at KathyBochonko.comFollow Transit Talks: Deepen your understanding of human design with Transit Talks, available as a podcast and a YouTube playlist.
Episode 75: Integrating Spirituality into Business, Raquel Welcome to Real Human Design Stories! Today, I’m thrilled to bring you an enlightening conversation with Raquel Reyna, a renowned 5/1 Splenic Projector. Raquel has masterfully integrated her deep spiritual knowledge into a thriving business, guiding thousands on their paths to self-discovery.Raquel Reyna, known for her profound influence on the Human Design community, joins us to share her transformative journey from a high-powered corporate career to a dedicated spiritual and Human Design educator. Her unique approach combines deep metaphysical insights with practical business strategies, making her teachings invaluable for anyone looking to blend spirituality with professional success.Main Discussion Points: • 01:00 - Introduction to Raquel Reyna • 03:06 - Raquel’s Spiritual Awakening • 09:53 - Discovering Human Design • 13:49 - Living as a Projector • 20:20 - Business and Human Design • 23:52 - Partnership with Davidian • 28:07 - Emotional Authority and Relationships • 34:04 - Exploring Raquel’s Chart • 39:53 - Navigating Conflict in Relationships • 40:53 - The Role of Compromise and Therapy • 41:52 - Living Environment and Decision Making • 42:34 - Business Dynamics and Sales Strategy • 45:44 - Foundations and Teaching Styles • 47:11 - Spiritual Growth and Relationship Dynamics • 49:20 - Journey into Human Design Certification • 51:47 - Exploring Human Design Concepts • 01:05:43 - The Four Radical Transformations • 01:07:44 - Balancing Excitement and Invitation • 01:11:44 - Connecting and Learning OpportunitiesExplore more about Raquel Reyna’s transformative work and educational offerings by visiting https://raquelanddavidian.comStay Connected: • Follow the podcast on your favorite platforms and leave a review. • Share this episode with someone who appreciates the fusion of spirituality and business. • Watch more episodes on YouTube at @KathyBochonko. • Join the conversation in our Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design. • Download your free personal Human Design chart and explore ways to work with me at KathyBochonko.com.Dive into this compelling episode to discover how Raquel Reyna uses her Human Design knowledge to foster both personal growth and business success, demonstrating the power of living true to one’s design.
Welcome to a special first on Real Human Design Stories—I’m your host, Kathy Bochonko, and I’m thrilled to bring you not just one, but two remarkable guests. In episode 74, Brandy Jordan and Richard Corbett join us to share their unique story as a couple, diving into how their individual paths in Human Design have merged to create a beautiful partnership. Both Brandy and Richard have previously shared their individual journeys with us, and now they’re here together to offer a deeper insight into conscious relating through Human Design.Guest Introduction:Brandy Jordan, a 6/2 Splenic Manifester, and Richard Corbett, a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator, are experts in Human Design and astrology. They have committed to exploring their relationship and personal growth to its fullest, embracing the path of individuated relating, and utilizing their deep understanding of Human Design to fuel their journey together. •⏳ 00:00 - Introduction and Guest Backgrounds •⏳ 02:03 - Deep Dive into Human Design •⏳ 03:45 - Exploring Relationship Dynamics •⏳ 07:09 - Personal Stories and Reflections •⏳ 10:33 - Challenges and Growth in Relationships •⏳ 14:19 - The Evolution of Conscious Relationships •⏳ 27:34 - The Intersection of Mechanics and Mythology •⏳ 35:54 - Building the Foundation of Relationships •⏳ 39:18 - The Role of Human Design in Relationships •⏳ 44:42 - Exploring Electromagnetic Channels •⏳ 47:55 - Practical Tips for Using Human Design in Relationships •⏳ 51:10 - The Journey of Self-Love and Compassion •⏳ 01:00:38 - Final Thoughts and Upcoming ProjectsPrevious Episodes & Resources: •🎧 Revisit Brandy’s personal journey in Episode 71: “Honoring the Body, the Heart, and the Experiment” here •🎧 Explore Richard’s insights in Episode 73: “Human Design Mechanics vs. Astrology Mythology” here •💻 Discover more about their collaborative work at Emerge by DesignStay Connected: •🌟 Follow the podcast on your favorite platforms and rate us. •📢 Share this episode with someone who will find value in exploring deep, conscious relationships. •👥 Join the conversation in our Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design. •📗 Download your free personal Human Design chart, introduction to “Your Human Design Guide to Radical Self-trust”, and explore all the ways you can work with Kathy at KathyBochonko.com.Conclusion:This in-depth discussion with Richard and Brandy provides a wealth of insights into the transformative power of relationships guided by Human Design principles. Don’t forget to revisit their individual stories in previous episodes for more personal insights. *Correction-in the video there is an image that incorrectly labels Brandy as an Emotional MG, she is a Splenic Manifestor with a defined Ego. Sorry for any confusion.
Join Kathy Bochonko for a profound conversation with Richard Corbett, a 6/2 Emotional Manifesting Generator, for Episode 73 of Real Human Design Stories. Richard delves into the intricate layers of Human Design and astrology, sharing how these tools have facilitated his transformative journey of personal growth.
Key Timestamps and Discussions
• 00:00:30 - Introduction to Richard Corbett
• 00:03:42 - Richard’s transformative personal story
• 00:06:50 - How emotional authority revolutionized Richard’s life
• 00:11:12 - Uranus Opposition: The cosmic event that led Richard to astrology
• 00:14:40 - Lunar eclipse in Gate 6 and the support of the universe
• 00:20:18 - Evolution of our emotional landscape • 00:25:35 - The Channel of Judgment (18-58) and the impact of Gate 21
• 00:33:18 - Reflecting on life before Human Design
• 00:40:25 - Mythology of Chiron and stories of coming off the roof
• 00:50:40 - Nine centered relating and its significance
• 00:56:35 - Overview of the Awaken, Unfold, Mastery (AUM) program with Brandy Jordan
• 00:59:35 - The art of creating personal mythology • 01:01:32 - Episode wrap-up and reflectionsNotable Quotes
• Human Design shows the mechanics, while astrology reveals our mythology.
• Off the roof—if I lie, I die. Embracing truth is my path.
• Creativity is the antidote to fear, doubt, and insecurity.
Visit Richard’s Website. https://www.emergebydesign.net
Kathy's Blog about her mythical creature https://kathybochonko.com/blog/creating-a-mythical-creature
Get your Human Design chart and more at KathyBochonko.com
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Don’t miss Episode 74, featuring Richard Corbett and Brandy Jordan. This special interview unveils their journey as partners and co-creators.
Episode Overview:In Episode 72 of Real Human Design Stories, Kathy Bochonko interviews Amanda Horvath, a videographer turned Human Design Analyst who is passionately blending her filmmaking skills with her love for Human Design. This episode delves into Amanda’s intriguing journey from video creation to Human Design and her exciting endeavor of creating a documentary about the early adopters of Human Design. Join us as Amanda shares how she helps entrepreneurs decode their charts, connect to divine guidance, and master the frequency of self from a felt experience.
Timestamps & Key Topics:
• 00:00:30 - Meeting Amanda Horvath
• 00:08:50 - Certification versus pioneering her own path
• 00:15:50 - The role of projectors in business and leveraging AI for verbal processing
• 00:23:30 - Visionary energy of individual circuitry • 00:30:00 - How interviews with early adopters have shaped Amanda’s view of Human Design
• 00:36:10 - Discussing the upcoming mutations and 2027 shifts
• 00:49:32 - Amanda’s documentary project on Human Design’s early adopters
• 00:50:28 - Exploring Amanda’s 4/1 profile and its implications
• 01:06:48 - Connecting with Amanda Horvath
Episodes Mentioned:
• Episode 69 with Barbara Ditlow
• Episode 56 with Leigh Ann Wolf
• Episode 71 with Brandy Jordan
Connect with Amanda Horvath:
• Website: frequencyofself.com
• YouTube: youtube.com/@amandahorvath
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• Website: kathybochonko.com
• Email: itsme@kathybochonko.com
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Additional Resources:
• Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust – Energy Centers Edition
• Join the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group
This episode provides invaluable insights for anyone interested in leveraging their unique design to thrive in business and life, showcasing how a Projector can navigate the business world with grace and effectiveness.
In Episode 71 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Brandy Jordan, a 6/2 Splenic Manifestor with an Ego Motor, co-founder of Emerge by Design, and an expert in Human Design, Gene Keys, astrology, psychology, and shamanic wisdom.
Brandy’s story is powerful, raw, and deeply inspiring. She shares how she reclaimed her body, her truth, and her joy through deep experimentation, embodiment, and a profound trust in herself.
One of the most important themes we explored was what it means to be a Manifestor without any Manifestor channels—a design that defies the traditional Manifestor experience. We discuss how every design is unique, and the importance of experimenting with your energy rather than letting someone else define what it means to be you.
Brandy also gives us a glimpse into her beautiful relationship with Richard Corbett, the love she knew was coming before she met him, and how their work together in Awaken, Unfold, Mastery helps others break free from conditioning.
⏳ 00:00:30 - Introduction
⏳ 00:03:45 - Brandy’s Impactful & Shocking Story
⏳ 00:11:40 - How Human Design Came Into Brandy’s Life
⏳ 00:14:41 - Following the Wisdom of Her Body
⏳ 00:25:05 - The Power of the 26-44 & a Completely Defined Will Center
⏳ 00:28:20 - Being a Manifestor with Only Projector Channels & Redefining What It Means to Be a Manifestor
⏳ 00:36:36 - The Importance of Experimentation vs. Being Told How to Operate
⏳ 00:43:10 - Her Hypocritical Third Line Phase
⏳ 00:49:24 - Finding Her Beloved: Richard Corbett.
⏳ 00:57:30 - Brandy & Richard’s Programs: Awaken, Unfold, MasteryResources & Ways to Connect
💻 Connect with Brandy Jordan & Emerge by Design – https://www.emergebydesign.net
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This episode is not to be missed if you’re craving a real, raw, and deeply embodied perspective on Human Design, self-trust, and true transformation.
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In Episode 70 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Naomi Fox Reina, a 2/5 Emotional Projector with a Triple Split and the Right Angle Cross of Planning.
Naomi’s story is deeply rooted in her faith and divine guidance. She shares how she felt called by God to bring Light-Filled Astrology™ into the world, later expanding her teachings to Light-Filled Human Design™. Her mission is to show people that they don’t have to choose between spirituality, esoteric wisdom, and their faith-based communities—they can hold both.
00:00:30 – Naomi’s story 00:09:10 – 2019 and the “wave” of awakening 00:12:39 – Learning to slow down, rest, and heal 00:16:11 – Triple Split dynamics and chart similarities 00:2317 – The tendency to overthink Human Design 00:26:05 – How Naomi integrates Human Design with LDS faith 00:36:07 – Innocence Motivation, Gate 40, and meeting her husband 00:40:55 – How Human Design empowered Naomi with tools to create success 00:43:25 – Out of Bounds planets and unique astrology insights 00:48:17 – The “boom and bust” cycle of Projectors 00:54:56 – Identity challenges with an undefined Sacral and G Center 00:57:00 – Naomi’s work with Light-Filled Human Design™ and Light-Filled Astrology™ Referenced in This Episode: 🎧 The New Human Podcast with Richard Rudd – https://youtu.be/8v9Fc6VasKI?si=P3CULjZtJkWyb6vt ✨ Connect with Naomi: LightFilled.co – https://lightfilled.co Explore More: 🔹 Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust – https://kathybochonko.com/shop/full-collection-your-ultimate-human-design-guide-to-radical-self-trust/ 🔹 More Real Human Design Stories: https://realhumandesignstories.com 🔹 Connect with me: https://kathybochonko.com 🔹 Join my Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign Don’t forget to subscribe and share this episode with your Human Design-loving friends. 🌟
Join me as I sit down with Barbara Ditlow, a certified Human Design Analyst, Coach, and Teacher, who brings over 22 years of experience in the Human Design experiment. Barbara’s unique insights draw from her work with Ra Uru Hu, Eckhart Tolle, and a wealth of knowledge in astrology, energy healing, and Feng Shui.
Barbara shares the transformative power of following invitations radically and how it shaped her journey as a 2/4 Self-Projected Projector. Together, we explore the messiness of conditioning, the significance of listening to your body, and the art of authentic self-expression in both fashion and home environments.
💡 In This Episode:
• 00:00:30 – Meet Barbara Ditlow
• 00:06:45 – Working with Ra and Eckhart Tolle
• 00:16:10 – The Messiness of Conditioning
• 00:21:30 – More on Eckhart Tolle and the significance of being born in 1948
• 00:27:10 – Purpose and listening to our bodies and knowing when to say no
• 00:42:42 – Sleep Rituals: Struggling to embrace what we know is important
• 00:47:58 – Authentic self-expression in fashion and homes
• 00:56:24 – Final Five: A new series of five questions
💬 Key Takeaways:
• Radical Invitations: Barbara’s philosophy on embracing invitations with full trust and alignment.
• Conditioning Is Messy: Why undoing societal and personal conditioning is vital to living authentically.
• Authentic Expression: How honoring your design shapes your outward style, home, and environment.
• Rest as a Struggle: Both Barbara and I discuss the ongoing challenge of prioritizing healthy sleep habits.
• Insights on 2027: Don’t miss Barbara’s upcoming talk, part of a collaborative container created by Jess Tilly and me, about the coming global shift in 2027.
🗓 Barbara’s Talk on 2027 – January 26, 2025, at 2 PM EST
Barbara will be sharing her insights about the global changes on the horizon for 2027 in a special Zoom session with Jess Tilly and me
Join the conversation live January 26, 2027 2pm est here https://zoom.us/j/91566616547?pwd=9EcaPitSpKAeP5bwcgqJWo8lX1KoMW.1
Meeting ID: 915 6661 6547
Passcode: 2027
✨ Explore More:
• Shine Your Light: A Free 5-Day Style Confidence Challenge https://kathybochonko.com/5-day-shine-your-light-challenge/
• Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust https://kathybochonko.com/shop/full-collection-your-ultimate-human-design-guide-to-radical-self-trust/
• Visit RealHumanDesignStories.com for all podcast episodes and more resources.
Stay Connected:
• Visit KathyBochonko.com for my blog and resources.
• Join my Facebook group, Intuitive Human Design.
Don’t forget to subscribe and share this episode with your Human Design-loving friends. 🌟
In this solo episode, Kathy Bochonko reflects on her transformative journey in 2024, exploring how her Word of the Year, “Trust,” evolved into “Radical Self-Trust.” Through three personal stories, Kathy shares how she leaned into self-trust to make bold moves in her business and life. She also looks ahead to 2025, revealing her new Word of the Year, “Simplify,” and introducing an exciting free challenge, Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge.
Whether you’re ready to embrace self-trust or seek inspiration for your own growth, this episode will leave you feeling empowered and aligned.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• How choosing the word “trust” for 2024 sparked a journey of radical self-trust.
• The role self-trust played in launching the Real Human Design Stories Podcast.
• Highlights from Kathy’s transformative experience at the Human Design Conference.
• Why combining her love of fashion with Human Design became a defining moment in her business.
• Insights into Kathy’s Word of the Year for 2025: Simplify—and what it means for moving forward with clarity.
• An invitation to join Kathy’s free Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge, starting January 21, 2025.
Chapter Breakdown:
00:00:31 - Choosing the word “trust” for the past year and its evolution to “radical self-trust.”
00:02:05 - Radical Self-Trust Example #1: Launching this podcast and hiring Number Three Productions for production support.
00:05:53 - Radical Self-Trust Example #2: Experience at the Human Design Conference.
00:15:01 - Radical Self-Trust Example #3: Bringing my love of fashion back into my business.
00:19:00 - Shine Your Light: A Free Five-Day Style Confidence Challenge starting January 21, 2025.
00:22:35 - Discussion on choosing my 2025 Word of the Year: Simplify.
00:24:30 - Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust.
00:28:35 - Closing thoughts and gratitude.
00:30:03 - Chatty Kathy’s in the Groove.
Resources & Links Mentioned:
• Shine Your Light: A Free 5-Day Style Confidence Challenge
https://kathybochonko.com/5-day-shine-your-light-challenge/
• Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust
• Blog Post: Shine Bright in 2025 - A Step-by-Step Guide to Finding Your 2025 Word of the Year
Stay Connected:
For more information on the podcast and additional resources, visit RealHumanDesignStories.com.
Explore more blog posts and updates at KathyBochonko.com.
Sign up for Kathy’s Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group for community insights and conversation.
Ready to embrace radical self-trust? Share your favorite moments from this episode and tag @KathyBochonko on social media. Don’t forget to like, follow, and subscribe for updates and new episodes!
In this episode, I talk with the effervescent Jess Tilly, a 4/6 Sacral Generator and Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways. Jess shares her inspiring journey of self-discovery and transformation, guided by her sacral response and human design. We explore her experiences of finding alignment, the synchronicities that led her to Ibiza, and her powerful work with alchemizing dreams and navigating life’s pivots.
Discover how Jess uses human design to embrace her path, trust the process, and honor the magic of living authentically. She also introduces her Human Design New Year Workbook, a practical tool to close out cycles and set intentions for the year ahead.
Topics Covered:
00:01:59 Jess Tilly introduces Her Story
00:09:13 Jess explores her Sacral Response
00:15:36 The Missing Piece in Alchemizing Your Dreams
00:19:07 Ibiza Magic and synchronicities leading up to it
00:27:51 Richard Beaumont
00:36:03 Human Design and Radical Self-Trust
00:37:27 Pivot to the Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways
00:43:58 Jess’s New Year Workbook
00:48:22 Quantum Human Design: The Gate of Imagination
00:52:34 The Transits: How They Affect Us
00:56:44 Closing thoughts with Jess at Corecalling.com
Key Themes:
• It gets to happen.
• Shooting your arrow into the unknown.
• Closing out the cycle.
• Trusting the magic within.
Resources:
• Connect with Jess Tilly: corecalling.com
• Download Jess’s Human Design New Year Workbook: corecalling.com/hdnewyear
• Sign up for Kathy’s Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge and stay in the loop about upcoming programs: KathyBochonko.com
Visit realhumandesignstories.com for more episodes and insights.
Erin Payne is a 1/3 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Her story is one of courage, transformation, and reclaiming her authenticity. After leaving the Mormon Church, Erin embarked on a journey of self-discovery, healing, and alignment that reshaped her life.
In this episode, Erin shares how she stepped away from a life of conformity, rebuilt her relationships, and found freedom in her personal expression. She recounts her introduction to Human Design and the profound impact it had on her family, marriage, and sense of self.
We dive into:
• Leaving the Mormon Church and rediscovering her voice
• Her first Human Design reading and how it changed her perspective
• Transforming her marriage by embracing her and her husband’s unique designs
• How we worked together to align her personal style with her true essence, deconditioning her outward expression and allowing her to shine
• The ripple effect of her transformation on her husband and their six children
This conversation is a powerful testament to the life-changing possibilities of embracing your truth and letting your light shine.
Chapter Titles
00:00:30 Meet Erin Payne
00:02:45 Erin Shares Her Story of Leaving the Mormon Church
00:14:57 Human Design Enters Erin’s Life
0:25:20 Integrating Human Design
00:29:50 Erin’s New Marriage Paradigm
00:35:19 How Erin’s Experiment Changed Her Relationship With Her Projector Husband
00:36:42 Sam and Erin Started Tapping Through Difficulties and Reentered Their Relationship Correctly by Type
00:47:06 Outer Visions, Aesthetics, and Deconditioning Your Outward Expression
00:49:35 Erin Talks About Shedding Her Mormon Garments and Embracing Her Sense of Style
00:55:01 Feeling Safe to Be Moody
01:00:09 How These Changes Impact Erin’s Kids
01:02:31 Thank You for Sharing Your Story
During our work together, I guided Erin in reconnecting with her personal style and deconditioning her outward expression. This transformation became an outward reflection of the deep inner work she had been doing, allowing her to align her appearance and presence with her true self.
If Erin’s story inspires you, it’s time for the world to see you shine your light. I’m launching an 8-week group program in January (currently in beta) to help align your outward expression with the inner work you’ve been doing. Email me at itsme@kathybochonko.com to get on the waitlist and be among the first to know when enrollment opens.
Contact Erin Payne
Website: theerinmichelle.com
Contact Me
Website: kathybochonko.com
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In Episode 65 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Karen McMullen, a 4/6 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Karen’s journey is nothing short of transformative. In 2014, she had what most people dream of: a thriving business, a loving relationship, good health, and a life of adventure. Yet, she felt drained and disconnected.
Discovering Human Design sparked a profound awakening for Karen, leading her on a decade-long journey of healing, self-discovery, and reclaiming her joy. Today, she helps clients gain the confidence and clarity to launch their next-level creations and make the impact they were born to make.
Karen is also an accomplished author, having written multiple channeled books, with her latest project focusing on Generators and Manifesting Generators. Her YouTube channel, where she shares Human Design insights, receives over 800 views daily, offering a steady stream of inspiration and education. Originally from Canada, Karen now lives a life filled with creativity and passion, often salsa dancing in Havana.
Timestamps:
00:00:30 Introducing Karen McMullen
00:2:06 Karen’s Story
00:09:19 Tearing Down Her Life and Going on the Roof
00:16:56 Embracing Sexual Potential
00:20:25 Channeling Her Book
00:27:42 The Projector’s Critical Need to Alchemize Bitterness
00:35:13 Dancing in Havana
00:39:11 Talking About Driving Down to Florida
00:42:56 Karen’s Experience With Channeling
00:47:36 The Frequency Transmission of Human Design
00:54:47 How to Work With Karen
Key Insights:
• Being in the Now and Trusting Perfect Timing
• Embracing the Sleeping Phoenix Energy to Rebuild Your Life
• “Until You Claim Your Gift, Your Gift is a Problem”
• How to Alchemize Bitterness as a Projector
• Are You Alive or Not?!
Connect with Karen:
Website: KarenMcMullen.ca
YouTube: Karen McMullen
Instagram: @iamkarenmcmullen
Connect with Kathy:
Website: KathyBochonko.com
Instagram: @KathyBochonko
Facebook Community: Intuitive Human Design
If Karen’s story resonates with you and you’re ready to dive deeper into your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you’re exploring your unique design or seeking mentorship, let’s connect and discover how to align with your truth.