In this brand new episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law talks to Georgia Bryce-Hutchinson about addressing mental health and psychosocial hazards through corporate therapy solutions and relying on subject matter experts. Are your workers at risk? Listen now at www.proveitpod.com or wherever you get your podcasts!   About Georgia Bryce-Hutchinson: Georgia A. Bryce-Hutchinson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Workplace Mental Health Consultant & Trainer, and Certified Professional Life Coach at Building Families According to Pattern, LLC. With a background in Environmental Engineering, she brings a systems-thinking approach to corporate mental health—designing strategic coaching and training solutions that reduce stress, build resilience, and enhance wellbeing. Georgia partners with organizations to advance psychological health and safety, crisis response, and leadership development, driving employee engagement, retention, and performance. She has delivered high-impact keynotes and technical presentations for the ASSP, NSC, General Motors, Veriforce, Georgia Safety Conference, and more. Since 2022, she has led mental health initiatives for L’Oréal, facilitating programs for emergency response teams, frontline leaders, and HR professionals. As a Safety FOCUS trainer with ASSP, she champions wellness among safety professionals. Widely recognized in both traditional and digital media, Georgia is a trusted voice on workplace mental health and employee wellbeing.   Episode Resources: Building Families According To Pattern, LLC with Georgia Bryce-Hutchinsonwww.bfatpllc.com LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiabryce/ Linked Newsletter – The Therapy Room and Beyondhttps://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6883118076557053952/ Podcast Guest - Psych Health and Safety USA – “Work Shouldn’t Hurt Emotionally”https://youtu.be/IAQ3C83lzrQ?si=0Ak3I9qHonvpvdxJ

In this brand new episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law talks to Dr. Fred Sherratt about social science methodologies, critical discourse analysis, and "safety without the spin". Do construction workers see through your bulls***? Listen now at www.proveitpod.com or wherever you get your podcasts!   About Dr. Fred Sherratt: Dr. Fred Sherratt is an internationally recognized, world-leading academic in the field of construction safety.  A Chartered Builder and a Chartered Building Engineer, she has over ten years’ experience working on UK construction jobsites, with over another ten working as an academic in UK Universities.  Her last role in the UK was as a Professor of Construction Sociology, and she moved to the US in 2022 to continue her work in the science of construction safety.  Fred is currently joint coordinator of the international CIB research commission W099 Worker Health, Safety and Wellbeing in Construction, and has presented her work to academic and industry audiences around the world.   Episode Resources: Unpacking Construction Site Safety  https://a.co/d/1WQQogW   Sherratt F (2013) Et in Arcadia ego? 'Zero target' safety programmes in the UK construction industry. In: Smith, S D and Ahiaga-Dagbui, D D (Eds.), Proceedings 29th Annual ARCOM Conference, 2-4 September 2013, Reading, UK, Association of Researchers in Construction Management, 299–308 http://arcom.ac.uk/abstracts-results.php?title=&author=sherratt&keyword=&p=#7822   Exploring ‘Zero Target’ safety programmes in the UK construction industry: Construction Management and Economics: Vol 32, No 7-8 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01446193.2014.894248   Sherratt, F. and Dainty, A.R.J. (2017) UK construction safety: a zero paradox? Policy and Practice in Health and Safety, 15(2) 108-116. https://doi.org/10.1080/14773996.2017.1305040   Sherratt, F., Harch, D. and Perez, A. (2024) Making Zero Work for Construction Safety in a Post-Zero World, Journal of Safety Research, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsr.2024.08.016   Sherratt, F and Sherratt, S (2017) The Road To Hell: Worker Health, Safety And Wellbeing Within UK Corporate Social Responsibility Practices. In: Chan, P W and Neilson, C J (Eds.), Proceedings 33rd Annual ARCOM Conference, 4-6 September 2017, Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge, UK. Association of Researchers in Construction Management, 389–398 http://arcom.ac.uk/abstracts-results.php?title=&author=sherratt&keyword=&p=#13237  

In this #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law dives into a recent study that explores how sleep can affect dark personality traits. Are your sleep habits sending you to the dark side? Listen now to find out! Episode Resources: Poor sleep can bring out workers' darker side, study finds - Safety+Health Magazine Kuijpers, E., Vergauwe, J., Vanderperre, S., Mairesse, O., & Hofmans, J. (2025). Rise of the Dark Side: How Sleep Perception Triggers Dark Triad States at Work. Journal of Organizational Behavior. https://doi.org/10.1002/job.2885  

In this compelling episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Todd Loushine and Dr. Matt Law deconstruct traditional safety measurement approaches. They challenge listeners to think critically about how safety is defined, measured, and understood, exploring the complex relationship between data, perception, and workplace safety. Listen now at www.proveitpod.com or wherever you get your podcasts! Key highlights include: Critiquing incident rate methodologies Exploring statistical nuances in safety research Discussing cognitive biases in safety interpretation Demonstrating the limitations of current safety metrics The presenters use real-world examples and academic research to illustrate how our current understanding of safety might be fundamentally flawed. They advocate for a more curious, experimental approach to safety management, emphasizing the importance of challenging assumptions and continuously learning. Perfect for safety professionals, researchers, and anyone interested in understanding the deeper complexities of workplace safety beyond surface-level metrics. Chapters: Introduction of Speakers and Session Overview ‎00:00:48 The moderator, Kelton, introduced Dr. Todd Loushine and Dr. Matt Law as the presenters for the breakout session. Dr. Loushine was described as a certified safety professional with a PhD from Wisconsin, currently an associate professor at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, and a former compliance safety and health officer. Dr. Matt Law was introduced as a certified safety professional with a doctorate in public health from Walden University, whose dissertation focused on occupational risk perceptions among foreign-born construction workers in central Florida. Dr. Law mentioned his podcast "Prove It To Me," noting that the first full-length episode featured a conversation with Dr. Loushine on the same topics they would be discussing in this session. Scientific Method and Research Fundamentals ‎00:04:34 Dr. Loushine began by explaining that the scientific method is cyclical rather than linear, often involving setbacks and sometimes yielding no results despite significant effort. He emphasized that research is about seeking truth and understanding, not just confirming existing beliefs. Dr. Loushine introduced key research concepts including construct validity (whether one variable truly relates to or causes another), measure reliability, and bias assessment. He stressed the importance of peer-reviewed publications versus non-reviewed content, noting a disconnect between researchers and practitioners in the safety field. Importance of Curiosity in Safety Research ‎00:10:23 Dr. Matt Law emphasized the need for curiosity in safety research, encouraging the audience to question both ideas that align with and contradict their preconceptions. He noted that the safety and health field lacks consensus on the "right way" to do safety, with many approaches (BBS, HOP, Safety One, Safety Two, etc.) having little evidence-based support. Dr. Law framed this as an opportunity for testing and measurement to determine what actually works in improving workplace safety. Challenging Traditional Safety Metrics ‎00:12:16 Dr. Loushine questioned how safety is defined and measured, suggesting that if something can't be measured, its effectiveness can't be established. He presented statistical concepts related to normal distribution and explained why injury data doesn't follow a normal distribution but is asymptotic. Dr. Loushine argued that comparing companies to industry averages using incident rates is problematic because extreme outliers skew the data. He questioned whether judging safety program performance based on injury numbers is appropriate, comparing it to judging driving performance based solely on accidents. Research on OSHA Data Reporting Issues ‎00:27:16 Dr. Loushine shared findings from his published study analyzing seven years of OSHA 300A data, revealing that approximately 12% of submitted reports c

In this #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law attempts to make sense of a meme that claims recent research has found that roasting your friends makes you more loyal and trustworthy. Listen now to find out! Episode Resources: Gorman, G., & Jordan, C. H. (2015). “I know you’re kidding”: Relationship closeness enhances positive perceptions of teasing. Personal Relationships, 22(2), 173–187. https://doi.org/10.1111/pere.12071 Johannessen, E. M. V. (2021). Blurred lines: The ambiguity of disparaging humour and slurs in Norwegian high school boys’ friendship groups. Young. https://doi.org/10.1177/11033088211006924 Ledet, B. (2025, March 6). Blair’s social second: Do you insult or roast your friends for fun? FOX 2 Now, Nextar Media Inc. https://fox2now.com/am-show/social-second/blairs-social-second-do-you-insult-or-roast-your-friends-for-fun/ Murti, A. (2020, February 17). Research shows we all should absolutely, relentlessly roast our friends. The Swaddle. https://www.theswaddle.com/why-do-friends-roast-each-other Platt, M., Malecki, C. K., Luckner, A., Wiemer, K., & Pyun, Y. (2022). You can’t sit with us…just kidding! An investigation into the association between empathy and prosocial teasing. Psychology in the Schools, 59(4), 832–844. https://doi.org/10.1002/pits.22650

In this brand new episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law talks to Dr. Gretchen Roman about original qualitative research into musculoskeletal disorders and psychosocial hazards among sign language interpreters. Can Total Worker Health® help us better understand the physical and mental health of this population? Listen now at www.proveitpod.com or wherever you get your podcasts! About Dr. Roman: Dr. Roman received her doctoral training at Massachusetts General Hospital, Institute for Health Professions and Arizona State University, College of Health Solutions. She completed her postdoctoral training at the University of Rochester where she investigated the occupational health of sign language interpreters working remotely in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and the impact of a mindful practice intervention on the well-being of medical sign and spoken language interpreters. Dr. Roman is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Family Medicine Research with a dual appointment in the Department of Public Health Sciences at the University of Rochester. Her background includes roles as a physical therapist, orthopaedic clinical specialist, ergonomics consultant, and sign language interpreter. Currently, she is focused on a Mentored Research Scientist Development Award (K01) through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health adapting a previously developed Total Worker Health® program to the context of sign language interpreting. Episode Resources: Roman G, Demian C, Love T, Yousefi-Nooraie R. Occupational safety, health, and well-being concerns and solutions for management reported by sign language interpreters: A qualitative study. International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. 2024; 21(11):1400. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph21111400  Dr. Gretchen Roman – University Profile Page https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/people/112363481-gretchen-a-roman

In this #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law digs into a study that suggests married folks are at a higher risk of dementia. Is it true? Listen now to find out! Episode Resources: George, J. (2025, March 25). Surprising findings from new research about dementia and marriage - U.S. study could challenge the belief that marriage protects against cognitive decline. MedPage Today. https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/dementia/114820 Karakose, S., Luchetti, M., Stephan, Y., Sutin, A. R., & Terracciano, A. (2025, March 20). Marital status and risk of dementia over 18 years: Surprising findings from the National Alzheimer's Coordinating Center. Alzheimer's & Dementia, 21(3). https://doi.org/10.1002/alz.70072

In Part 2 of this #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law continues exploring scare tactics used in workplace safety training and ends up putting his own foot in his mouth. Is this guy even credible? Listen now to find out! Episode Resources: Health Communication Capacity Collaborative. (2014). The extended parallel processing model: An HC3 research primer. https://www.healthcommcapacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Extended-Parallel-Processing-Model.pdf Fredrickson, B. L., Cohn, M. A., Coffey, K. A., Pek, J., & Finkel, S. M. (2008). Open hearts build lives: Positive emotions, induced through loving-kindness meditation, build consequential personal resources. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 95(5), 1045-1062. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0013262 Lally, P., van Jaarsveld, C. H. M., Potts, H. W. W., & Wardle, J. (2010). How are habits formed: Modelling habit formation in the real world. European Journal of Social Psychology, 40(6), 998–1009. https://doi.org/10.1002/ejsp.674 Law, M. (2020). Four reasons OSH professionals must be better salespeople. Professional Safety, 65(2), 28-31. Li, S.-C. S., Lu, P.-C., & Chen, S.-C. (2020). Emotions in fear appeals: Examining college students’ attitudes and behavioural intentions towards colorectal cancer prevention in Taiwan. Health Education Journal, 79(5), 569–582. https://doi.org/10.1177/0017896919891749 Liang, S., Raymond Rui, J., & Xu, P. (2022). Risk or Efficacy? How risk perception and efficacy beliefs predicted using hearing protection devices among different groups of Chinese workers. Safety Science, 154, 105858-. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssci.2022.105858 Page-Bottorff, T. (2016). The habit of safety: Forming, changing & reinforcing key behaviors. Professional Safety, 61(2), 42-43. Trope, Y., & Liberman, N. (2010). Construal-Level Theory of Psychological Distance. Psychological Review, 117(2), 440–463. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0018963 Worthington, A. K. (2023). 5.1: Fear appeals – The extended parallel process model. In A. K. Worthington, Persuasion theory in action: An open educational resource (pp. 5.1.1-5.1.5). https://socialsci.libretexts.org/@go/page/179347

In this new #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law does a rapid-fire deep dive into scare tactics used for workplace safety training. Do they work? Listen now to find out! Episode Resources: Brookes, G., & Harvey, K. (2015). Peddling a semiotics of fear: a critical examination of scare tactics and commercial strategies in public health promotion. Social Semiotics, 25(1), 57–80. https://doi.org/10.1080/10350330.2014.988920 Carey, R. N., McDermott, D. T., & Sarma, K. M. (2013). The impact of threat appeals on fear arousal and driver behavior: A meta-analysis of experimental research 1990-2011. PloS One, 8(5), e62821–e62821. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0062821 Health Communication Capacity Collaborative. (2014). The extended parallel processing model: An HC3 research primer. https://www.healthcommcapacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Extended-Parallel-Processing-Model.pdf Koehler, M., Brockamp, T., Bamberg, S., & Gehlert, T. (2022). Change of risk behaviour in young people – the effectiveness of the trauma prevention programme P.A.R.T.Y. considering the effect of fear appeals and cognitive processes. BMC Public Health, 22(1), 595–595. https://doi.org/10.1186/s12889-022-12918-2 Türkel, S., Misci Kip, S., & Yasdıman, F. E. (2020). Use of fear appeal in work safety messages: An experimental study. Türkiye Iletişim Araştırmaları Dergisi, 36, 253–267. https://doi.org/10.17829/turcom.842695 Worthington, A. K. (2023). 5.1: Fear appeals – The extended parallel process model. In A. K. Worthington, Persuasion theory in action: An open educational resource (pp. 5.1.1-5.1.5). https://socialsci.libretexts.org/@go/page/179347

In this brand new episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law talks to Dr. Mani Berenji about mental health in the workplace, the research behind addressing mental health, the resources available to employers, and important discussions about messaging and the purpose of Total Worker Health® Listen now at www.proveitpod.com or wherever you get your podcasts! About Dr. Berenji: Dr. Berenji is a double board certified physician specializing in Occupational and Environmental Medicine as well as Preventive Medicine. She is currently Chief of Occupational Health at VA Long Beach Healthcare System. She also leads the Environmental Health Clinic at VA Long Beach Healthcare System, conducting exposure assessments for veterans (including Agent Orange, Gulf War, and Open Burn Pit registry exams). She is Associate Clinical Professor in the Department of Occupational and Environmental Medicine at UC Irvine School of Medicine as well as Associate Clinical Professor in the Department of Environmental and Occupational Health at the Wen School of Public Health. She is Lead of Academic and Community Partnerships with the University of California Center for Climate, Health and Equity, where she is spearheading efforts to enhance academic and industry partnerships; evaluating new methodologies to enhance emergency preparedness surrounding climate-related events; working with community leaders on identifying practical climate solutions; and developing climate curricula for medical students and residents. She is currently pursuing board eligibility in Clinical Informatics through the American Board of Preventive Medicine’s Practice Pathway. She is Chair of the Health Informatics as well as the Environmental Health section of ACOEM and continues to lead the ACOEM Presidential Task Force on Digital Transformation through a Planetary Health Lens. She is also a certified medico- legal evaluator and qualified medical examiner in the state of California. Episode Resources: Mental Health at Work - World Health Organization Workplace Mental Health - American Psychiatric Association One Mind at Work Mental Health at Work Index Five Essentials for Workplace Mental Health and Well-Being - Office of the Surgeon General 5 Strategies for Improving Mental Health at Work - Harvard Business Review Mental Health in the Workplace - Washington State Department of Labor & Industries

In this new #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law has a meltdown over the dirty C-word and proceeds to burn all the bridges with malice and forethought. He didn't even hit the alarm. Grab your fire extinguisher, and listen now! Episode Resources: Study explores complacency during workplace fire evacuations. (2025). Professional Safety, 70(1), 13. Accessible at www.assp.org with a valid membership. Occupant complacency in workplace fire evacuations Gold, D., Thomas, D., Vincer, N., & Pitkin, M. (2024). Occupant complacency in workplace fire evacuations. Humanities & Social Sciences Communications, 11(1), 1134–15. https://doi.org/10.1057/s41599-024-03665-3  

In this new #StudyFinds episode of #ProveItPod, Dr. Matt Law has a short but sill unreasonable tangent about research dissemination followed by an investigation into a real workplace hazard. Like seriously. It's actually about #safety this time. And #health. Are you sitting down? Might actually be time to stop that. Episode Resources: Study asks: How much sedentary time is too much? Accelerometer-Measured Sedentary Behavior and Risk of Future Cardiovascular Disease Ajufo, E., Kany, S., Rämö, J. T., Churchill, T. W., Guseh, J. S., Aragam, K. G., Ellinor, P. T., & Khurshid, S. (2024). Accelerometer-measured sedentary behavior and risk of future cardiovascular disease. Journal of the American College of Cardiology. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.10.065

In this new "Study Finds" episode, Dr. Matt Law looks behind the headlines once again to figure out if late eaters are doomed in life. Will eating after 5pm kill you? Listen to find out! Episode Resources: Concerning study finds 'serious consequences for health' for people who eat after 5pm - Daily Mail Eating After 5 PM Could Be Damaging Your Metabolic and Heart Health - SciTechDaily Late eating is associated with poor glucose tolerance, independent of body weight, fat mass, energy intake and diet composition in prediabetes or early onset type 2 diabetes - Nutrition & Diabetes TREAT to Improve Cardiometabolic Health (NY-TREAT) - ClinicalTrials.gov Díaz-Rizzolo, D.A., Santos Baez, L.S., Popp, C.J., Borhan, R., Sordi-Guth, A., Manoogian, E.N.C., Panda, S., Cheng, B., & Laferrère, B. Late eating is associated with poor glucose tolerance, independent of body weight, fat mass, energy intake and diet composition in prediabetes or early onset type 2 diabetes. Nutr. Diabetes 14, 90 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41387-024-00347-6

In this new "Study Finds" Episode, Dr. Matt Law digs into the truth behind the headlines claiming that maple syrup can prevent heart disease. Is it true? You'll have to listen to find out. Episode Resources: Morning Ag Clips - Why Substitute Sugar With Maple Syrup? Study Abstract Morissette, A., Agrinier, A.-L., Gignac, T., Ramadan, L., Diop, K., Marois, J., Varin, T. V., Pilon, G., Simard, S., Larose, É., Gagnon, C., Arsenault, B. J., Després, J.-P., Carreau, A.-M., Vohl, M.-C., & Marette, A. (2024). Substituting Refined Sugars With Maple Syrup Decreases Key Cardiometabolic Risk Factors in Individuals With Mild Metabolic Alterations: A Randomized, Double-Blind, Controlled Crossover Trial. The Journal of Nutrition, 154(10), 2963–2975. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tjnut.2024.08.014

On today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Todd Loushine, Ph.D., P.E., CSP, CIH to talk about research, the difference between master’s degrees and doctoral programs, correlation vs. causation, and how to read and interpret the good, the bad, and the ugly in research.

I’m Dr. Matt Law, and I'm the host of "Prove It To Me". This podcast aims to put theories to the test and bring good research to light by showcasing evidence-based solutions. Guests will be challenged to identify things that actually work, provide research and data to back up their claims, and tell us how to measure and manage real solutions.Have some evidence-based research to share? Send an email to contact@proveitpod.com today!