Therapy can wait—pop culture can’t. Lauren and Chanler unpack With Love, Megan (why José Andrés is the missing co-host), the Pamela Anderson × Liam Neeson “PR bake-off,” why couple-prank TikToks feel like Dante’s 9th circle, a viral aesthetician chemical-peel horror story, Brittany Mahomes’ 30th with Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo bachelorette, and the latest Kris Jenner/Corey Gamble breakup rumblings. Tech gremlins struck mid-record…so we’re unlocking our joyous Taylor Swift × Travis Kelce engagement special (timeline, ring, and Ed Kelsey revelations). Vote in our Spotify poll for next deep dive! Chapter Timestamps 00:00 — Therapist on hold; Lauren’s solo PR weekend & With Love, Megan ☕️ 02:30 — Why the show needs a high-energy foil (enter José Andrés) ✨ 05:00 — Pamela × Liam: PR stunt…or PR about a PR stunt? 🎬 14:00 — TikTok “I pranked my husband” couples = actual nightmare 📱 19:30 — The Beverly Hills chemical-peel disaster & safety PSA 🧪 24:10 — Brittany’s 30th: Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo trip 🎉 27:10 — Kris & Corey rumor mill, NDAs, and “payday” threats 💼 34:00 — Tech issues → unlocked: Taylor & Travis engagement special 💍 35:30 — Backyard proposal, timeline, and first reactions 🥂 38:00 — Chandler sees the engagement news mid–Q&A, Lauren in therapy 📱 41:00 — Group chat chaos: only two on FaceTime at first 🫠 43:30 — Champagne at 10 a.m.; heteronormative jokes & name-change debate 🍾 47:00 — Proposal vibe: private, cozy, not performative 🌳 50:00 — Engagement timeline decoded: why now ⏳ 52:30 — Ed Kelsey’s viral quote: “She was getting antsy” 🗣️ 55:00 — Reading the photos: backyard setting, candid feel 📸 58:00 — Headphone-crease Easter egg & Swiftie sleuthing 🔍 1:01:00 — Why Travis works: antidote to Taylor’s brooding-artist exes ❤️ 1:04:00 — The ring: vintage aesthetic, Swift-coded style 💎 1:08:00 — Family lore: Swift & Kelsey group chat reactions 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 1:11:00 — Wrapping the joy: Taylor’s new “domestic, happy” era 🌟 1:12:00 — Proposal vibes revisited: cozy backyard details 🌳 1:15:00 — Timing theories: career windows, 2-year milestone, tour break ⏰ 1:18:00 — Ed Kelsey quote unpacked: Swiftie reactions 🗣️ 1:22:00 — Close-reading leaked pics: candid vibes & headphone crease 📸 1:26:00 — Why Travis balances Taylor’s past loves ❤️ 1:30:00 — Ring deep dive: cut, carat, vintage inspiration 💍 1:34:00 — Family group chat lore & reactions 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 1:38:00 — Wrapping with joy: Taylor’s fairytale moment 🌟 1:41:00 — Engagement euphoria cool-down: what this means for her next era ✨ 1:47:00 — Back to With Love, Meghan: struggle to fill content, “thank God for Taylor’s engagement” 🥂 1:48:00 — Brutal timing: teaser same day as New Heights pod + engagement on premiere 📺💔 1:49:00 — Not “Meghan-coded,” just bad luck; no Harry, only crew at finale 🎥 1:49:30 — Meghan × cameraman (glasses guy) = more chemistry than guests 😂👓 1:50:00 — Rosewater spray = rare fun sparkle ✨🌹 → sign-off: “Love you guys, see you Wednesday!” Booking.com. Booking.YEAH! Macy’s: Shop now at macys.com or in stores now! Progressive: Try the Auto Quote Explorer at progressive.com BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS Cozy Earth: Visit CozyEarth.com for 40% off with code POP Hero Bread: 10% off using code POP at hero.co Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.