Where's the money in podcasting? Hosted by Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, PodBiz dives into the strategies, trends, and tools driving podcast monetization and industry growth. From ad revenue and branded content to audience development and production workflows, we spotlight the real business behind the mic.
Each week, we speak with creators, executives, and innovators answering the one question on everyone’s mind: Where’s the money in podcasting?
Whether you're monetizing your show, launching a network, or just obsessed with the space, PodBiz is your insider guide to podcasting’s biggest opportunities.
Listen to new episodes every Monday- Let’s get down to PodBiz!
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Where's the money in podcasting? Hosted by Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, PodBiz dives into the strategies, trends, and tools driving podcast monetization and industry growth. From ad revenue and branded content to audience development and production workflows, we spotlight the real business behind the mic.
Each week, we speak with creators, executives, and innovators answering the one question on everyone’s mind: Where’s the money in podcasting?
Whether you're monetizing your show, launching a network, or just obsessed with the space, PodBiz is your insider guide to podcasting’s biggest opportunities.
Listen to new episodes every Monday- Let’s get down to PodBiz!
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How can pay transparency change the podcast industry for the better?
In this episode of PodBiz, Norma Jean Belenky speaks with Erin McGregor, Program Manager at the Association of Independents in Radio (AIR), about the newly released 2025 AIR Rate Guide and why setting industry standards matters for freelancers and hiring managers alike. Erin shares insights on building sustainable careers, the role of mentorship, and how community is often the most valuable investment independent audio professionals can make.
As she puts it:
“The year I stopped taking work below my bottom line, I broke six figures as an independent.”
Here are some insightful moments from the episode:
Erin McGregor is the Program Manager at AIR, where she oversees SoundPath, AIR’s training platform for the audio industry, and leads initiatives in pay transparency, mentorship, and professional development. A former freelancer and self-taught audio producer, Erin brings deep experience in community building and creator advocacy.
Connect with Erin on LinkedIn
Learn more at AIR Media and SoundPath
01:13 – About the Rate Guide | Why pay transparency matters
06:04 – Common Underpayment Traps | Why freelancers earn less than the standard
09:29 – AIR’s Role | Advocacy, opportunities, and resources
12:33 – The Water Cooler Effect | Building safe spaces for freelancers
16:48 – Erin’s Career Journey | From freelancer to AIR leadership
23:36 – Thinking Like a Business | Setting a bottom line
25:43 – Underused Resources | How AIR supports independents
26:59 – Mentorship Marketplace | Getting guidance when you need it
31:02 – What’s Next | Audience engagement and live events
“Freelancers need to think like a business.”
“All interns should get paid—no exceptions.”
“Community is often the number one thing people renew their membership for.”
“Pay transparency benefits everyone on all sides of the industry.”
“Mentorship can accelerate your career by years.”
PodBiz is the podcast about the business of podcasting. Hosted by industry veterans Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, the show features conversations with creators, executives, and platform leaders to answer one question: Where’s the money in podcasting?
Each episode dives into monetization strategy, adtech, branded content, IP development, and audience growth. Guests include leaders from Acast, Captivate, Crooked Media, Buzzsprout, True Native Media, Podfest, and more.
Learn more: njbmedia.co | thepodhouseproductions.com
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