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OTC
Dr. Lauren Bochicchio and Lila Galustian LMFT
31 episodes
4 days ago
Off-The-Clock with Lili and Lauren, aka OTC is a series of different conversations between two therapists, while off the clock.
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Off-The-Clock with Lili and Lauren, aka OTC is a series of different conversations between two therapists, while off the clock.
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Mental Health
Health & Fitness
Episodes (20/31)
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WHY Do People Bully : The Power of Education in Diminishing Hate

The more education you have - the less likely you are to bully someone! 

Join Lauren & Lili as we embark on a profound journey diving into the realm of hurtful comments and online negativity. Together, Lauren & Lili uncover the origins of bullying driven by ignorance and fear, shedding light on the pivotal role of education.

Our conversation takes a thought-provoking turn as Lauren & Lili explore the significance of continuous education and the dangers of narrow-mindedness. Through personal stories and reflections, they emphasize the transformative power of exposure to diverse perspectives in shaping individual worldviews.

Delving deeper, Lauren & Lili examine the roots of bullying behavior and the influence of passed down beliefs. They chat about how our old fears of differences have morphed into modern-day concerns, especially when it comes to gender diversity.

Lauren & Lili find hope in the positive shifts driven by the younger generations, Gen Z and Gen Alpha. They highlight the importance of accountability, resilience, and effective strategies for managing and reporting harmful behavior, ultimately striving towards a more inclusive and compassionate landscape.

What we cover:

Importance of Education and Diverse Perspectives

Understanding Loyalty and Overcoming Ignorance

Generational Shift Towards Positive Change



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1 year ago
31 minutes 53 seconds

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Chasing Equilibrium in a World of Work and Personal Fulfillment

Here in America, work hours are grueling and job satisfaction is often a luxury.

Delve into the delicate balance between a healthy work ethic and the perilous allure of workaholism. Together, Lauren & Lili explore the quest for equilibrium between savoring life’s pleasures and fulfilling professional obligations. 

Tune in as Lauren & Lili delve into the process of aligning personal values with career choices and the toll exacted by a misalignment on overall well-being. They shed light on the challenges of finding fulfillment in a society where work hours are grueling and job satisfaction is often a luxury.

Their conversation candidly addresses the hurdles of layoffs, the pursuit of meaningful employment, and the profound impact of personal values, such as the quest for financial stability. 

As the discussion unfolds, they confront systemic issues plaguing our societal infrastructure, from the affordability crisis in housing to the suffocating cycle of debt, prompting reflection on how these barriers stifle our capacity to dream and flourish.

What we cover 

  • Navigating Work, Balance, and Growth

  • Finding Fulfillment in Occupational Choices 

  • Balancing Work and Life Challenges

  • Navigating Unpredicted Financial Stressors
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1 year ago
36 minutes 56 seconds

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Shaping Communication: Cultivating Self-Awareness and Mindfulness in Relationships

Why do we say and do certain things? Because it has been positively reinforced in the past! 

Join Lauren & Lili  this week as we dive deep into the intricate world of relationships, communication, and personal growth. Through candid storytelling and introspective reflections, we explore the journey towards healthier connections, both with others and ourselves.

Lauren & Lili bring up pivotal moments that have shaped our communication styles and relationship dynamics, from navigating canceling plans to confronting fears of commitment.

Throughout the episode, we examine the power of language, context, and respect in shaping the quality of our connections. We ponder societal shifts in acceptable behavior over time and the lasting impact of casual disrespect. Our actions and words often stem from past positive reinforcement. Additionally, we delve into the importance of setting boundaries and offering feedback, highlighting the concepts of rupture and repair in maintaining healthy relationships.

Join us as we unpack these themes and more, offering insights and reflections to inspire greater self-awareness and mindfulness in all our relationships.

What we cover 

  • Impact of Unhealthy Relationships

  • Understanding Relationship communication Patterns

  • Managing Aggressive Behavior in Relationships 

  • Feedback and Judgment in Relationships 

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1 year ago
30 minutes 51 seconds

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Decoding Dating Apps: From 'Wanna F***?' to Meaningful Connections
“Wanna Fuck?” - a first time online dating message all too familiar  Dating has come a far far way to what it is in 2024.  Ever encountered the displeasing of dating apps like getting your first message of “wanna fuck” and wondered how to navigate it with grace and confidence?  This episode Lili and Lauren dive into the troubling encounters in the world of dating apps. They share candid stories about the disrespect and boundary violations that are sadly all too common, from unsolicited explicit photos to aggressive messages, and the gaslighting that often ensues when women stand their ground.  Our conversation takes a critical look at the societal pressures and entitlement that may feed these behaviors, providing listeners with insights on how to handle such situations or to walk away with self respect.  Join us on a thought-provoking journey through the cultural expectations of femininity and masculinity in dating. What we cover: Women and Men's Dating Concerns Understanding Audience Reception and Cultural Context  Exploring Gender Norms and Stereotypes  Dating Norms and Gender Expectations  Understanding Men's Perspective on dating
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1 year ago
30 minutes 19 seconds

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What is the silver lining? Can it be joy?
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili discuss the dialectics of joy.
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1 year ago
22 minutes 41 seconds

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What are the social rules of a small dog?
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili discuss social norms and rules through the lens of their own experiences.
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1 year ago
20 minutes 15 seconds

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Nature or nurture?
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren discuss differing reactions to stress and crises.
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1 year ago
27 minutes 57 seconds

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Hopeless and Motivated
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili continue their discussion of the healthcare system.
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1 year ago
24 minutes 59 seconds

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Advocating for change while regulating anger
Join Lili and Lauren while they use therapeutic skills while discussing the frustrations of our medical industry and out health care system.
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1 year ago
28 minutes 4 seconds

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Walking the middle path with our husbands
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili continue their discussion of difficult conversations. This time, they discuss walking the middle path in their relationships.
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1 year ago
24 minutes 43 seconds

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Let’s get serious, but how?
On today’s episode, Lili and Lauren discuss how to have difficult conversations using a variety of dialectical behavior therapy skills.
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1 year ago
26 minutes 10 seconds

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Effective avoidance with Lili and Lauren
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren take a break from the day and model distracting from high intensity emotions.
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1 year ago
32 minutes 25 seconds

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Remember when I had boundaries? Did I just crack and enable more walking on my eyeballs?

Today's episode is the seasons finale of the first season of OTCC. Lauren and Lili have an updated discussion about boundaries and highlight moments where they may have forgotten to continue to maintain their boundaries.

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1 year ago
26 minutes 2 seconds

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Are you Bored? Are you still bored? What do you wanna do to stop being bored?
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren discuss how to manage feelings of boredom without engaging in target behaviors.
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1 year ago
26 minutes 54 seconds

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Is Cupid ghosting you? Or…?
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren discuss the loneliness of relationship driven holidays (e.g., Valentine's Day) and their own fumbles with trying to manage loneliness in different moments in their lives.
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1 year ago
28 minutes 22 seconds

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Grief, loss, and the blue butterfly
This episode is dedicated to Lili’s amazing Sister-in-law and friend… te Quiero mucho mi hermosa mariposa azul
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1 year ago
26 minutes 38 seconds

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How do we balance our work, our life, our goals, and ourselves? It’s all about frequency.
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren discuss managing their work/life/self balance.
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1 year ago
27 minutes 53 seconds

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Am I lying? Or is it identity theft?
On today's episode, Lili and Lauren discuss their experiences with lying and attempts at being more truthful.
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1 year ago
28 minutes 28 seconds

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Just because you say it's validating, doesn't mean it is.
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili describe what validation is and what it isn't.
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1 year ago
30 minutes 24 seconds

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What are our Values? A signed shirt from Paramore? Of course!
On today's episode, Lauren and Lili describe their values, how their values have evolved over the course of time, and examples of values-based actions.
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1 year ago
24 minutes 57 seconds

OTC
Off-The-Clock with Lili and Lauren, aka OTC is a series of different conversations between two therapists, while off the clock.