Fresh on the heels of a 4 game win streak, Harry and Mickey are pleased as punch with the Pistons' young core. Whether it's Cade Cunningham devouring teams in the 4th quarter, or Jalen Duren and Isaiah Stewart putting up 20+ point, 10+ rebound games, or the overall disruption of Ausar Thompson and Ronald Holland II, there's a lot to like in the D. Detroit is sittin' pretty as the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference, with a fairly favorable looking schedule through the rest of Novemember, and the fellas at the Order tackle whether the Pistons should hold steady and keep the development going, or really make a push to make some noise and make a run at the Eastern title.

Can we get a good first quarter, please? Mickey and Harry break down the performance of the team through the first 5 games, covering the struggles the Pistons have putting the ball through the basket, the defensive lapses from the new guys, and discuss just what this team needs to fix what ails em. It ain't all bad, though, as the team is 3-2, including a bounce back beatdown of the Orlando Magic after getting embarrassed two nights earlier by the Cleveland Cavaliers. Plus, the Order consults a Ouija board to inform us of what lies ahead.

The season is up and off to a, well, underwhelming start. The Pistons dropped their season opener in Chicago against the Bulls, and while there are a couple things to like, Mickey and Harry have their concerns. Is it too early? We'll answer that with a segment of Real Beef or Nothing Burger.

We're 3 games deep into the preseason and a lot of what we've seen from the Detroit Pistons has provided some answers, but even more questions - not that that's a bad thing! Is this how they're going to play during the regular season or are the Pistons just getting live reps for their young players to build their game for the long run? Is Jaden Ivey okay? What does the offense look like without Cade Cunningham on the floor? Mickey and Harry tackle these questions, as well as any others the chat may have.

2 preseason games down and Cade Cunningham is lettin' y'all know that he's got somethin to say in the MVP race (RIGHT?). Harry and Mickey talk about individual performaces so far and they each take a turn in the OOBH Overreactor, where their takes get juiced up and they have to talk each other back down to reality. They close with a Basketball Movie Club segment talking about an all-time great, Love & Basketball.

The season is so so close and the media day talk had the Order gleeking. Harry and Mickey go over the lovely little nuggets they dug up from the subtle - and not so subtle - comments made by the players and staff of the Detroit Pistons rolling into the 2025-2026 season. They wrap this episode up with another session of the Basketball Movie Club, going over the Marlon Wayans/Kadeem Hardison classic "The Sixth Man".

After going over The Ringer's article (written by Michael Pina) suggesting the Pistons trade for Lauri Markkanen, Harry and Mickey weigh the pros and cons of this decision, as well as compare that addition to a potential Keegan Murray swap. They also continue onward with the Basketball Movie Club and discuss the Don Cheadle vehicle "Rebound: The Legend of Earl 'The Goat' Manigault"

Mickey and Harry welcome Sixers fan and writer/producer Mike Benner (Destroy All Neighbors, Bob's Burgers, That Lion Show) to the show to talk Eastern Conference Expectations, the state of Philadelphia, and we take a nice long look at Tobias Harris and BBall Paul. They also discuss the Adam Sandler, cameo-heavy, basketball movie club selection "Hustle"

Mickey and Harry are once again joined by musical genius, basketball obsessive, and all-around great dude, Doug Berns, aka @Duglust, to chat about the upcoming 2025-2026 Season and the state of the Eastern Conference. Then, they dive into the fifth edition of Basketball Movie Club: Eddie.

Malik Beasley MAY be cleared? Maybe not???? Rumors are that he's been in talks with the Pistons the whole time, but also that he has interest in teams like the Cavaliers and the Knicks. Is he looking for a prove it deal? Is he looking for as much money as possible? Is he looking for a title run? Harry and Mickey discuss all the possibilities and debate his (and the Pistons') best case scenario. They also talk some moves around the league (Cam Thomas, PJ Washington), the All Star Game, and the Steve Ballmer/Kawhi Leonard scandal - which leads to a little game we call "Sweetening the Pot." Plus, this week's edition of Basketball Movie Club - this time it's the Spike Lee joint "He Got Game".

Mickey and Harry take a look at what their lob king Jalen Duren could command as far as an extension goes, compare him to some other bigs, and talk what they hope to get from him this season. They also roll right into the third edition of Basketball Movie Club, this time having tackled the Oscar-snubbed documentary "Hoop Dreams".

The Pistons are up to the minimum of required roster spots filled by signing 6'4" wing Javonte Green! Will he be their backup 4? And John Hollinger suggests Ivey's output puts him in the WHAT?!?-range for a contract? Harry and Mickey talk about the contract they'd be down to give JI and if they'd do it today. They close on their Basketball Movie Club segment, this time going over Hoosiers, a movie that they are both seeing for the first time.

After a quick discussion about what the Pistons may be doing with their roster spots, the boys at the Order are celebrating their 50th episode and easin the summer slow season by starting a new segment: the Basketball Movie Club. Harry and Mickey watch and review basketball movies of all shapes, sizes, and genres. They kick it off with a classic that Mickey has never seen before, Blue Chips, starring Nick Nolte, Shaq, Penny Hardaway, and Mary McDonnell.

Mickey and Harry are joined by renowned (formerly of NBA TV) GOATmentator Beau Estes (@nbabeau), covering his career as the voice you all know as the Top 10 rhyme scheme fiend. They talk his career, his view on the Pistons, and end on a draft of the best names in the NBA to riff and rhyme with.

Mickey and Harry drink the kool-aid (literally) as they perform a power hour, taking a shot and bringing up a new point every minute. They spend a lot of time talking power forward/the 4 spot, but they cover a lot more of what Detroit can expect from their squad.

Grab your glizzies and pop on those tank tops, because the boys of Summer League are ballin out and Harry and Mickey are here to talk about it. They discuss the performances of Ron Holland II, Daniss Jenkins, Chaz Lanier, Bobi Klintman, and Tolu Smith, as well as the comments from Trajan Langdon and J.B. Bickerstaff. And, for the first time ever, the fellas are here to talk Pistons basketball from the same location WHAT?!

Mickey and Harry welcome poet and Pistons fan Mitchell Nobis to the Order to share his feelings about the team and some of his prose on the pros (dare we hint at a Ben Wallace reference?). They talk what they'd like to see from Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivey, Jalen (Downtown?) Duren, Ausar Thompson, and Ron Holland, discuss the new pick ups, and play a game of "Who You Talkin 'Bout, Reddit?" with the new acquisitions.   Get Mitch's book, "The Size of the Horizon, or, I Explained Everything to the Trees" here: https://matchfactoryeditions.com/books/The-Size-of-the-Horizon-or-I-Explained-Everything-to-the-Trees-p727302583

It was reported that Malik Beasley is under investigation by the U.S. District Attorney's office on allegations of gambling related to prop bets and the NBA (from during his 2023-24 season with the Bucks). Harry and Mickey hop on to discuss the ramifications of this and how it effects Malik and the team moving forward.

The Order welcomes Laz Jackson (@lazchance) to the show and we grill him about what he would do if he was in Trajan Langdon's shoes. We talk all the trades, the draft, the state of the East, and close on a game of 2 Truths & a Lie.

Tobias Harris is on an expiring contract he ain't gettin any younger. His season last year with Detroit was a breath of fresh air and much needed, but the Pistons have to be wondering who will be starting in 2026 and possibly 2025. Harry and Mickey are, too, and they take this offseason opportunity to explore possible candidates to fill the four for the future.