In today’s episode I speak with James Taplin, Lead Technologist for Urban Living at Innovate UK, about the benefits of a place-specific verses a place-agnostic approach in addressing the transition to net zero, and in particular about a £60m government programme called Net Zero Living working with 52 places to collaborate and accelerate the transition to net zero. 

James was previously a Sustainability Advisor at Forum for the Future, and has a PhD in Biodiversity and Climate Relationships from the Uni of York

He’s also a writer of really beautiful and thought provoking posts on instagram and I know that I am not alone in looking forward to reading his first book one of these days.

And just so you know, in the interests of full disclosure Liminal are a current delivery partner of NZL and convening the 52 places and leading on the delivery of the Community of Practice together with Urban Foresight and Forum for the Future.We discussed the following:

• What is Net Zero Living and how did it come about?
• What are no-regrets Net Zero solutions and how to scale them.
• What are local authorities on the front line of the net zero transition.
• About the co-benefits of achieving your needs/goals in a better, net-zero way.
• How to balance hope and despair when working on climate innovation.

Here are a few links to some of the things we discussed:

⁠https://iuk.ktn-uk.org/programme/net-zero-living/⁠ 

⁠https://iuk.ktn-uk.org/perspectives/accelerating-net-zero-delivery-unlocking-the-benefits-of-climate-action-in-uk-city-regions/⁠ 

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamestaplin/⁠ 

⁠www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge ⁠

If you enjoyed this conversation then also check out Episode 52 with Dan Thompson about the Running Out of Time Climate Relay and Episode 51 with Hannah Scott who is the co-founder of the Climate Tech Supercluster.

In today’s episode I spoke with Dan Thompson who is the Founder of the Running Out of Time Climate Relay.

He has a background as a successful founder and entrepreneur in several start up companies in the media industry including the likes of Renegade Software, he also has experience as an investor in companies including Gamesys and Graze. He is also a lifelong runner and his involvement in running relay races dates back more than a decade going coast to coast in America. 

This conversation begins in 2022 when he co-founded the world’s first and longest climate relay race called Running Out of Time. 

I really liked what he said about millions of us care about climate and nature issues in this country and 83% of people in this country want the government to do more and that councils are one of the most important organisations making the net zero transition happen. Here are links to a few things we discussed:

https://running-out-of-time.com/

https://gccs.iza.org/rankings

https://www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-thompson-a479/

If you enjoy this episode please check out Episode 51 with Hannah Scott who is the co-founder of the Climate Tech Supercluster. And also look out for episode 53 with James Taplin from Innovate UK about a hugely ambitious and exciting project working with 52 towns and cities on the transition to net zero called Net Zero Living. 

***If you are listening to this episode on 4th July 2024 then listen out for a few different ways to get involved in the final stage of the ⁠Climate Relay⁠ today.***

In this episode I spoke with Hannah Scott who is the co-founder of the Climate Tech Supercluster and also CEO of business network Oxfordshire Greentech, which aims to grow and support the county’s low-carbon economy. She is also an edie 30 Under 30 Class of 2023 winner, an initiative that aims to spotlight and support top UK sustainability professionals aged under 30.  In this conversation we talked about: 1. What is the Climate Tech Supercluster and why is it needed? 2. How to cultivate hope when feeling despair when working on climate change? 3. What climate policies and investments we would like to see in the forthcoming uk general election? Highlights include: - Within 4 hours train travel of London is the Silicon Valley of Climate Innovation but nobody knows about it. - Necessity is the mother of invention and we are in the most necessary period of history - With climate policies, start with transport innovation as it’s the sector that requires the most behaviour change. - Various Supercluster policies (e.g. Supercluster Visas, Green Patents) and projects (e.g. Oxford Industrial Decarbonisation Project, Net Zero Living) This podcast was produced by Liminal - a collective intelligence community. Thanks to all of our community members, clients, partners and patrons. Here are links to some of the things we discussed. https://www.climatetechsupercluster.com/ https://oxfordshiregreentech.co.uk/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-scott-8b51a9a8/  https://dealroom.co/guides/npa  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/forging-collaborative-partnerships-within-the-climate-tech-ecosystem-tickets-916219115037 https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/cleantech-venture-day-tickets-857090218917?discount=CVDVIPCCT  https://www.weareliminal.co/ Thanks for listening. Check out and buy the On The Edge book ⁠here⁠: https://www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge

Alyssa Gilbert is Director of Undaunted which is a community of creative, proactive people exploring how innovation can help humans tackle climate change. She is also the Director of Innovation at the Grantham Institute which was established in 2007 to provide a vital global centre of excellence for research and education on climate change. Today, the Grantham Institute is established as a leading authority on climate and environmental science. She is an all round expert on environmental and climate change policy and science having worked in the field in numerous roles and several countries for over 20 years.

In this conversation we talked about:

1. Building open innovation Infrastructure for the climate ecosystem 
2. Finding and scaling silver bullets and business models for climate innovation
3. Cities and places as serendipity engines 
4. Where could and should climate leadership come from? 

Highlights include:

• Why she is not getting angry about the net zero backtracking where the object is to divide people and the solution is not to be divided.
• The role of place in driving climate innovation as part of a global supercluster of talent and technology.
• That it's great to care but you cannot take the world upon your shoulders - everyone has a role to play in addressing the climate emergency.

This podcast was produced by Liminal - a collective intelligence community. Thanks to all of our community members, clients, partners and patrons. Here are links to some of the things we discussed.

• Undaunted https://undaunted-hq.org/
• Grantham https://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/
• Climate Tech Supercluster https://www.climatetechsupercluster.com/
• Conception X https://www.conceptionx.org/
• Liminal https://www.weareliminal.co/
• RethinkX https://www.rethinkx.com/
• Notpla https://www.notpla.com/
• Ministry for the future https://store.orbit-books.co.uk/products/the-ministry-for-the-future

Thanks for listening. Check out and buy the On The Edge book here.

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere. Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat? How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity? Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new? On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now? In this episode I read Chapter 3 called Into the Unknown. Enjoy. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as: “A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton “Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden “Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan "A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain “An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson “Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore “This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander “It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye “Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton "An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere. Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat? How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity? Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new? On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now? In this episode I read Chapter 2 called This is Happening. Enjoy. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as: “A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton “Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden “Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan "A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain “An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson “Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore “This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander “It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye “Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton "An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere. Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat? How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity? Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new? On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now? In this episode I read Chapter 1 called Start at the End. Enjoy. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as: “A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton “Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden “Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan "A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain “An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson “Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore “This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander “It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye “Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton "An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere. 

Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat? 

How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity? 

Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new? 

On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now? 

In this episode I read the Introduction called The Future is Fluid. Enjoy. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as: 

“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton 

“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden 

“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan 

"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain 

“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson 

“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore 

“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander 

“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye 

“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton 

"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner 

This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere. 

1. Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat? 
2. How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity? 
3. Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new? 

On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. 

www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge

In this episode I read the Preface called Gradually, Then Suddenly. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as: 

“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton 

“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden 

“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan 

"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain 

“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson 

“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore 

“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander 

“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye 

“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton

"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner

What are you on the edge of right now? 

In this conversation I connected with Ella Goldner. Ella is a co-founder of Zinc - a fund that backs entrepreneurs, pre-team and pre-idea, to build new tech-enabled & mission-driven commercial ventures. She is also the co-founder of Alma Angels, a network that brings together new and existing angel investors who are committed to actively supporting female founders. In this conversation we talked about: The Zinc venture builder missions and how/why the best way to foster entrepreneurship in response to social challenges? How to mitigate the challenges of co-founder relationships, especially given that some people say that too much or too little co-founder conflict is the #1 cause of start up failure. A deep dive into the latest Zinc environment mission which just went live - to mobilise the climate innovation ecosystem through cross-sector collaboration and scale up capital, and shifting narrative from climate being (only) a big problem to (also) a huge opportunity. OpenCo/newCo? So I started out by asking her, What is a venture builder mission and who is it for? Enjoy! "The core components (of Zinc) are; can we get the talent to do that if we give them the right missions, can we build an ecosystem around them, an army of people who care about what they do and help them, and can we make that really powerful by underpinning with good research." "Every moment you hear the news (about climate) there is a reason to feel despair, so how do you turn that around and remind people of the opportunities and the covid an industry-led vaccine task force is a really good example of how to do that." "We want (Zinc) to be the best place in the world for anybody who wants to experiment and have impact at scale... if you are really talented and ambitious." https://www.zinc.vc/ https://apply.workable.com/zinc-ventures-limited/j/D79DBD1FC7/ https://www.zinc.vc/missions/environment/ https://gosupercritical.com/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172206/ https://newco.co/ https://www.channel4.com/programmes/jabbed-inside-britains-vaccine-triumph https://www.weareliminal.co/

“How do you change the system to take longer term decisions without forcing people and using a government to do that, and the answer is you set up cooperatives and mutuals.” Shiv Malik

In this conversation I connected with Shiv Malik who is a technologist, broadcaster, author, former Guardian investigative journalist and co-founder of the Intergenerational Foundation think tank. He is also author of several books - The Messenger and Jilted Generation. He joined the Web3 space in 2017 with Golem and then Streamr. In 2021 he co-founded Pool and currently leads the organization on its mission to bring Data Unions to the world and ensure people have control of their data and a genuine stake in the digital economy.

In this conversation we talked about web3 and data unions and why are they are important, building upon his background as an investigative journalist.

"We all need to have that stake in the future and be able to leverage that."

https://www.pooldata.io/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Malik

https://www.faber.co.uk/author/shiv-malik/

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/shiv-malik

https://www.weareliminal.co/

In this conversation I connected with Sonja Blignaut. 

Originally a meteorologist, Sonja now partners with people who need to navigate, make sense of, and lead in uncertainty. She spans the boundaries of leadership, organisational development & change, strategy, risk, innovation, and marketing. In short, she works wherever there is complexity, which nowadays is more or less everywhere. 

Sonja is internationally recognised as an expert on Complexity, the Cynefin Framework, Waysfinding, and Complexity Fitness. She is certified in various individual and systemic coaching methods and a sought-after speaker, with experience at various conferences locally and internationally, including TedX. 

In this conversation we talked about crossing thresholds and the skills, capabilities, rituals, and mindsets are required to navigate transitions well?- inspired by this blog post that she shared recently that I’ll link to in the show notes. That post starts with the following quote by John O’Donohue:  

“At any time you can ask yourself: At which threshold am I now standing? At this time in my life, what am I leaving? Where am I about to enter? What is preventing me from crossing my next threshold? What gift would enable me to do it?” 

So I started out by asking her, at what threshold she is now standing and how it makes her feel? Enjoy! 

____ 

- The space of not knowing is where the growth happens 

- The hardest conversations we are avoiding the most are the ones with ourselves 

- The value of rituals in transitions and the need for containment  

- How much of my own life am I putting off until someday? 

- The time has come to cross - don’t let your life flow by without noticing 

https://complexityfit.com/sonja-blignaut/ 

https://sonjablignaut.medium.com/crossing-thresholds-a109d1b2d392 

https://www.weareliminal.co

In this conversation I connected with Nick Hare, founder of Aleph Insights - an analytics consultancy that specialises in supporting strategic decision-making for both business and government in defence, security, intelligence and international affairs.

Prior to establishing Aleph Insights, he worked in various roles across the Ministry of Defence, the Cabinet Office and the intelligence community, most recently within Defence Intelligence, where he was responsible for professionalising intelligence analysis."

I first met Nick via an old school friend and have gone on to work with him a few times over the last decade.

In this conversation - recorded on 1st April 2022 - we talked about the current war in Ukraine. In particular we talked about: What can we learn about analysis and decision making from such turbulent times? And is there a new world order emerging, and if so are are some of the possible future scenarios?

So I started out by asking him, how has the war in Ukraine affected him personally, and also whether he agrees that we are past a point of no return? Enjoy!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-hare-a7b12161/ 

https://alephinsights.com/

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/cognitive-engineering/id1142986387

https://twitter.com/AlephInsights

https://www.weareliminal.co/

In this conversation I connected with Jon Alexander who is the author of a new book called Citizens. 

Jon started his career working in the advertising industry, selling some of the world's biggest brands, and winning plenty of awards along the way. Then he realised he was caught up in a story he didn't believe in: The Consumer Story.

So in 2014, Jon co-founded the New Citizenship Project. Their mission was to figure out how to use their skills not just to sell stuff to Consumers, but to involve people in the decisions that affect their lives as Citizens, working with the likes of the Co-op, Body Shop, National Trust, BBC, and European Central Bank.

In this conversation we talked about:

• A brief history of humanity from people as subjects to consumers to citizens.
• How the citizen story is different to some of the progressive stories and ideas that have preceded it?
• How the pandemic has shifted the role and power of people, governments and corporations?
• How we can’t have paradigm shift without a paradigm to shift to.
• The story of vTaiwan and Taiwan in 2014.
• The idea of social acupuncture.

So I started out by asking him, what is the citizen story, and why is it important right now? Enjoy!

https://www.jonalexander.net/

https://www.newcitizenship.org.uk/

https://www.weareliminal.co/

http://www.participatorycity.org/

https://anchor.fm/weareliminal/episodes/004-Participatory-Cities---Tessy-Britton-e57bok

https://info.vtaiwan.tw/

Please Note: In this conversation we talked about several examples including Participatory Cities (of which I am a trustee) and Tessy Britton (who I interviewed way back in episode 4 of this podcast) - links above. Also Jon and I were introduced recently thanks to Francine Bennet so many thanks to Fran for the introduction.

In this conversation I connected with Anab Jain who is a designer, futurist, filmmaker and educator. As Co-founder and Director of Superflux - the multi-award winning design agency - they translate future uncertainty into present day choices Over the last 15 years, Anab has gained international recognition for her work and commentary on design, innovation, emerging technologies and complex futures. She is the recipient of many, many awards. She has delivered talks and keynotes at several conferences including TED, MIT Media Lab and MOMA’s to name but three. In addition, Anab was appointed Professor at the University of Applied Arts in Vienna in 2016, where she leads the Design Investigations (ID2) Program. In this conversation we talked about how and why we think about the future is all wrong. In particular we talked about: 1. Who or what gives you hope for the future? 2. How do you translate future uncertainty into present day choices? 3. What is human exceptionalism, and why are you calling time on it? So I started out by asking her, why do you not like to make predictions about the future? Enjoy! https://superflux.in/ https://twitter.com/anabjain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYjWLqE_cfE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf7T2TySG0 https://www.dezeen.com/awards/2021/winners/superflux/ https://designinvestigations.at/ https://www.weareliminal.co/

In this conversation I connected with Dilbagh Gill who is CEO of the Mahindra Formula E Racing team since the sports inaugural season in 2014. Formula E is the is a single-seater motorsport championship for electric cars. As one of ten founding teams – and the only Indian team – Dilbagh has built his team from the ground up which has led to multiple race victories and podiums. He’s always been a motorsport and mechanical enthusiast. From repairing motorbikes while studying at college before going on to be an amateur rally driver. He also has a background working for a start up that developed software used in FIFA World Cup and the World Cup of Motorsport. In this conversation we talked about a Formula E and a different kind of race. The race to net zero emissions. In particular we talked about: The role that collaboration within teams and cooperation across teams, plays in the development of the sport? What are some of the plans/predictions for innovations that you are developing and their potential future impact? Last year was said to be a make or break year for the climate emergency (COP26 etc). What are you learning that others (citizens, governments, OEM’s) can learn from? So I started out by asking him what is Formula E and how and why did it start? https://www.linkedin.com/in/dilbaghgill/ https://www.mahindraracing.com/ https://www.fiaformulae.com/ https://www.weareliminal.co/

"What gives me hope is that people are getting involved with climate action, not just politicians and businesses. There is a strong show of human demand for change and that’s what we’ve always needed." Gurjit Singh Lalli

In this conversation I connected with Gurjit Singh Lalli, who is one of the best connected people in Glasgow, and with the eyes of the world on the City due to the United Nations COP26 Climate Change Conference summit, I caught him on a very busy day yesterday, in-between meetings in a cafe, a short distance from the main summit event.

Born in England, raised in Scotland, educated in Sweden, having lived in Mexico & Middle East, with a wife from Hong Kong, and parents from India, he has been back in Glasgow and since 2010 and is the Founding Curator TEDxGlasgow.

They have had hosted numerous events in Glasgow and over 14 million views of the talks we put online. 

He is the founder of several companies is also winner of the Business Man of the Year award at the Scottish Asian Business Awards. 

So I started out by asking him. How does it feel to be in and from Glasgow right now?

https://tedxglasgow.com/

https://ukcop26.org/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gurjitsinghlalli/

"If we can bail out banks then lets bail out humanity."

"There are two types of activism I’m seeing. One on the street and one in the boardroom."

"Climate action is not something we should be competing on it’s something we should be collaborating on."

In this conversation I connected with Dr Sue Black who is now a Prof of Computer Science at Durham. She is perhaps best known for her instrumental role in helping to save Bletchley Park, the once the top-secret home of the World War Two Codebreakers, including Alan Turing and 1,000’s others, half of whom were women, that allegedly shortened WW2 by 2-3 years and saved over 20 million lives. With bright red hair and relentless enthusiasm, she is a tireless campaigner for the role tech can play in creating positive social change - in particular for women and mums in the tech sector. She left school at 16, was in women’s refuge at 25 with 3 small children, went back to education at 26 got degree in computing in 1993, and PhD in software engineering in 2001 and is now one of the most influential people in computer science in the UK and even appeared on the legendary BBC radio programme Desert Island Discs earlier this year too! So I started out by asking her about social mobility through education and asked "are you the exception that proves the rule"?  https://sueblack.co.uk/ https://bletchleypark.org.uk/ https://techupwomen.org/ https://cruciblealumni.com/crucibleirl/ https://techmums.co/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b3b4m5 https://www.weareliminal.co

In this conversation I connected with Michael Garfield who is a real renaissance man. A talented musician, artist and illustrator, podcaster, palaeontologist! What is the point of polymaths? He is the host of the Future Fossils Podcast and the Complexity Podcast for the Santa Fe Institute. Previously he has been as a Community Manager for Long Now Foundation, an In-House Philosopher The Crypto Crew and a Writer and Editor for the Globalish Institute. His online profiles describes him as a Context Provider (rather than a content provider) and a Rift Navigator. Our conversation explored the need for generalists in a highly specialised world and interdisciplinarity including the following questions: What is the purpose of polymaths? Why is neuroplasticity is the best antidote to uncertainty and complexity? What is the nature of the technological and evolutionary transition we are in right now? Why would we want to live in the future verses the long now? So I started out by asking him I started out by asking him - what is the point of polymaths in our society and culture right now? Enjoy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindisfarne_Association https://michaelgarfield.medium.com/improvising-out-of-algorithmic-isolation-7ef1a5b94697 https://www.culture24.org.uk/art/art22070 https://www.santafe.edu https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils https://www.andreawulf.com/about-the-invention-of-nature.html https://longnow.org https://www.weareliminal.co

In this conversation I connected with Sharath Jeevan who is an expert on how to practically re-ignite the inner-drive (or intrinsic motivation) in our lives. He is the Executive Chairman of Intrinsic Labs, which supports organisations all around the world to solve deep motivational challenges. Previously Sharath founded and led STiR Education to re-ignite the motivation of 200,000 teachers, 35,000 schools and 7 million children in emerging countries. He was elected an Ashoka Fellow in 2014 and was recognised as one of the UK’s ten leading social entrepreneurs in 2019. His first book Intrinsic is available now in trade paperback, audiobook and e-book formats. We literally talked about: The current crisis of motivation How we can best use the 90k hours of our working lives The false promise of meritocracy (which also cropped up in episode 29 of this podcast with Jack Du Rose) Learning about motivation from the 150th best tennis player in the world Who nurtures the nurturers? So I started out by asking him why do you get out of bed in the morning? Enjoy. https://www.intrinsic-labs.com/ https://stireducation.org/ https://www.weareliminal.co