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On Marketing
Jordan Ogren
86 episodes
1 week ago
What is marketing? Have you ever had that thought before? No? Well, I have. Quite a bit, weirdly. Oh, hey there, I'm Jordan ๐Ÿ‘‹. I'm a man from Wisconsin on a Frodo-like journey to discover what marketing is. Like, really is. Not the fluff. Or the hype tactics. The real stuff. Strategy. Processes. First principles. The things that ACTUALLY help a company grow and win. Everything I wish I had learned when I started five years ago. I hope to shorten that learning curve for you. Some questions I explore on this show with my guests: - What is the job marketing should get done in a company? - What is one of your strongest held beliefs about marketing? - What is something you believe that few other marketers believe? This podcast is for me to learn from some of the best thinkers on this planet, and hopefully, you can pick up some wisdom too. Join me on this journey to learn.
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What is marketing? Have you ever had that thought before? No? Well, I have. Quite a bit, weirdly. Oh, hey there, I'm Jordan ๐Ÿ‘‹. I'm a man from Wisconsin on a Frodo-like journey to discover what marketing is. Like, really is. Not the fluff. Or the hype tactics. The real stuff. Strategy. Processes. First principles. The things that ACTUALLY help a company grow and win. Everything I wish I had learned when I started five years ago. I hope to shorten that learning curve for you. Some questions I explore on this show with my guests: - What is the job marketing should get done in a company? - What is one of your strongest held beliefs about marketing? - What is something you believe that few other marketers believe? This podcast is for me to learn from some of the best thinkers on this planet, and hopefully, you can pick up some wisdom too. Join me on this journey to learn.
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On Marketing
On Growth: Trailer

Meet the new On Growth series ๐Ÿ‘‹

If youโ€™ve ever wondered what growth is for, start here

I draw the line between shortcuts and systems, and lay out how weโ€™ll explore growth as the way we run GTM

Weโ€™ll explore inbound ร— outbound as one loop, pairing a GTM engineer with a generalist marketer, and so much more!

Hereโ€™s the why, whatโ€™s coming, and how you can take action right away

I hope you enjoy :)

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on November 3rd, 2025.


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Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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1 week ago
15 minutes

On Marketing
Book Review #3: This Is Strategy by Seth Godin

What is strategy?

How does one become "more strategic?"


This Is Strategy by Seth Godin dares to put words to how to do strategy.

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๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTubeย 

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on October 14th, 2025

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In this book review, I cover Seth's newest book (and maybe worst-written one).


It's a collection of nudges or musings on strategy that are barely tied together. Yet it still delivers progress in thinking better about strategy.


In the episode, I share:

  • An overview of What Is Strategy
  • A few caveatsย 
  • 5 insights/learningsย 
  • 3 reflection questions

With AI, strategic thinking has never been more critical.


This book has some of the answers on how to get better.


Enjoy the episode :)


Let me know what book you want covered next ๐Ÿ‘‡


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// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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3 weeks ago
20 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #71: Yune Wen Chia

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTubeย 

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on July 11th, 2025.

Meet Yune Wen Chia ๐Ÿ‘‹

If you want to understand marketing better, he's your guy

While only having 7 years of marketing experience, he gets it both theoretically and tactually

Yune and I met over a LinkedIn post on my reflections on being a moderator

Yune's organization was putting on an event and was also moderating

Connecting over our lessons led me to think:

Yune gets it. Why not have him on the show?

Well, here he is and our conversation.

I hope you enjoy :)


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// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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1 month ago
30 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #70: Christine Bekyir

Meet Christine Bekyir ๐Ÿ‘‹

And to be honest, this episode shouldn't be

I connected with Christine on LinkedIn and then met her for coffee

After chatting, I realized she knew a good amount about marketing

She spent six years as a Paralegal for Brown County

And is now an executive assistant at NWTC for the last 3 years

While also launching her consultancy, Abundant Life Masterplan

I loved her takes on target audience, branding, and life

I hope you enjoy :)

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube
๐Ÿ“น Recorded on June 13th, 2025

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// Disclaimer //ย 
Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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2 months ago
32 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #69: Stephanie Yoder

Meet Stephanie Yoder ๐Ÿ‘‹

If you want to master content, you need to listen to her

She spent a decade as a travel writer, then jumped into content marketing and is now the Director of Content for Rebrandly

I love her grounded takes on marketing, content, and especially AI

I hope you enjoy :)

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTubeย 

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on May 23rd, 2025


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// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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3 months ago
31 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #68: Ghalib Hassam

Meet Ghalib Hassam ๐Ÿ‘‹

If you want to master founder-led marketing on LinkedIn, heโ€™s your guy

An engineer with a Master of Science turned marketer/entrepreneur

He has some of the most distilled and nuanced takes on content and founder-led marketing


I hope you enjoy :)


๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on May 16th, 2025


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Ghalib's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghalibhassam/


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4 months ago
34 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #67: Matthew Rawle

That's Matthew Rawle ๐Ÿ‘‹


An owned media channel consultant


Who knows his stuff when it comes to content, owned media, and social


He shares some contrarian takes that I couldn't stop nodding to


Another LinkedIn connection that turned into a great episode


I hope you enjoy :)


๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on May 2nd, 2025


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5 months ago
30 minutes

On Marketing
Friends of On Marketing #11: Hiba Amin

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on April 18th, 2025


As the first installment of Friends of On Marketing comes to an end


I want to touch on something:


Not all past guests are (or will become) friends


It's the sad reality of business


Sometimes it's transactional or can only be personable for a little bit


Whether that's because the person glows up and can't be seen with a nobody marketer (I believe I'm worth it)


Or they simply don't want to run it back (for a plethora of reasons)


And then there are the few who are friends before or become friends after


And the rare few who continue glowing up but stay grounded and remain a friend


Hiba is one of the rare few


She's graduated from kicking ass at startups and is the cofounder of Little Creative Planet, with Devin Pickell and Bridget Poetker (a friend of the show!)


But beyond that, she's a genuine human who is always trying to help


In this episode, she opens up about her career journey and why there is so much more than work


Enjoy the episode :)


๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Hiba is from Season 1, Episode 22


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5 months ago
33 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #66: Fergus Dyer-Smith

Meet Fergus Dyer-Smith ๐Ÿ‘‹


A true expert in AI and how to apply it to our work


He's one of the few voices I listen to in the AI space


He's currently the Founder and CEO of Wooshii, a technology-driven platform transforming how brands produce and manage content at scale.


Enjoy the conversation :)


๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on March 14th, 2025


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6 months ago
27 minutes

On Marketing
Book Review #2: Day Trading Attention by Gary Vaynerchuk

Most marketers say they want attention


Few know how to day trade it


๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on April 15th, 2025


In this book review edition of On Marketing, I unpack Day Trading Attention by Gary Vee


This isn't a hype piece (book)

It's a reality check for marketers trying to keep up with where attention is moving


In the episode, I share:

  • A quick overview of Day Trading Attention
  • A few caveats (because not all of it lands)
  • 5 insights worth bookmarking
  • 3 reflection questions to sharpen your strategy

Whether you love Gary or eye-roll at his grindset gospel

There's a nugget in this book to improve your marketing

Enjoy the episode :)

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// Disclaimer //ย 

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6 months ago
33 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #65: Vivek Shankar

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 28th, 2025


Meet Vivek Shankar ๐Ÿ‘‹


A content strategist and content writer


Who I met through an initial disagreement


On when/how we should use AI when writing


(which we cover in this episode!)


Enjoy the conversation :)


// GUEST LINKS //

Vivke's LinkedIn


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// Disclaimer //ย 

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7 months ago
40 minutes

On Marketing
Friends of On Marketing #10: Mitch Schoenman and Timothy Wier

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 21st, 2025


Marketers need more friends in sales


And I think the same is true for salespeople


If they want to be more effective


Thatโ€™s why for today's Friends episode:


I have Mitch from the sales world


And Timothy from marketing


Where we chat all things sales, marketing, AI, and the one thing they are most proud of


Enjoy the episode :)


๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Mitch is from Season 3, Episode 8

๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Timothy is from Season 2, Episode 6


// GUEST LINKS //

Mitch's LinkedIn

Timothy's LinkedIn


// CONNECT //

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// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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7 months ago
43 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #64: Shannon (Sweeny) Curran

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 20th, 2025


That's Shannon (Sweeny) Curran


A fractional CMO and advisor


With a killer track record in marketing, brand, and content


And she's also a genuine human who is willing to share her wisdom


Enjoy the episode :)


// GUEST LINKS //

Shannon's LinkedIn


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// Disclaimer //ย 

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7 months ago
39 minutes

On Marketing
Friends of On Marketing #9: Matt Froehlich

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 14th, 2025


The only reasonable excuse for (almost) releasing this late: ย 


Being a dad ย 


Which is meta, as this episode is all about fatherhood ย 


And DTC, paid ads, and AI


Enjoy the episode :)


๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Matt is from Season 3, Episode 1


// GUEST LINKS //

Matt's LinkedIn


// CONNECT //

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โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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8 months ago
47 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #63: Lashay Lewis

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 17th, 2025


Meet Lashay Lewis ๐Ÿ‘‹

Queen of BOFU (bottom of the funnel) content


She spent a decade as an in-house content strategist


Then, she decided to do her own thing with Authority Plug


Lashay gets content, and she shares plenty of gems in this convo


Enjoy the episode :)


// GUEST LINKS //

Lashay's LinkedIn


// CONNECT //

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โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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8 months ago
28 minutes

On Marketing
Friends of On Marketing #8: Diandra Escobar

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 14th, 2025


From SEO ranches to getting fired by a friend to then building a 6-figure agency


Diandra tells it all in this episode


And my favorite thing she sharesโ€“at the endโ€“is that (internal) PEACE is what we should all be striving for


If you want to up your content/SEO game, this episode is for YOU


๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Diandra is from Season 3, Episode 2


// GUEST LINKS //

Diandra's LinkedIn


// CONNECT //

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โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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8 months ago
43 minutes

On Marketing
Book Review #1: Permission Marketing by Seth Godin (1999)

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on February 12th, 2025


What can we learn from a 1999 marketing book?


Surprisingly, a lot


Especially when itโ€™s Seth Godinโ€™s Permission Marketing


In this new format, I share:

- An overview of the book

- Caveats on what isnโ€™t applicable

- 5 insights still relevant today

- 3 questions to ask to apply insightsย 


Let me know if you like โ€œbook reviewsโ€


And Iโ€™ll do more in the future!


Enjoy the episode :)


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๐Ÿ”ต Connect with me on LinkedIn

โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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9 months ago
20 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #62: Neil Stoneman

๐Ÿ“บ Click to watch on YouTube

๐Ÿ“น Recorded on January 17th, 2025


Meet Neil Stoneman ๐Ÿ‘‹


The Director of Content Performance at Velocity Partners


A kick-ass B2B marketing agency where he's worked for the last 16 years


I've followed Velocity and Neil's work since starting in marketing


If it's not clear yet, Neil brings with him earned expertise and experiences


And he shares all his wisdom in this episode


Enjoy our conversation!


// GUEST LINKS //

Neil's LinkedIn

Velocity Partner's blog


// CONNECT //

๐Ÿ”ต Connect with me on LinkedIn

โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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9 months ago
39 minutes

On Marketing
Friends of On Marketing #7: Derek Laliberte

Click to watch this episode on YouTube ๐Ÿ“บ


"If you want to eat, you must learn to hunt."


With a career in sales, Derek knows how to hunt


And he knows a lot about marketing


AND and he brings much contrarian advice


Sit back and enjoy this episode


๐Ÿ“น Recorded on January 22, 2025

๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Derek is from Season 1, Episode 4


// GUEST LINKS //

Derek's LinkedIn

Derek's Prospectur


// CONNECT //

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๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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9 months ago
32 minutes

On Marketing
On Marketing #61: Justin Price

Watch this episode on YouTube ๐Ÿ‘‰ https://youtu.be/ye29ncn1QOc


Justin Price is the Senior Manager of Multichannel Marketing for the Milwaukee Bucks.


Yes, the basketball team. Where he's worked for 6+ years.


Before that, he was doing email marketing and is now tasked with marrying email and SMS marketing programs in his new role.


Enjoy our conversation!


// GUEST LINKS //

Justin's LinkedIn


// CONNECT //

๐Ÿ”ต Connect with me on LinkedIn

โ˜•๏ธ Get a virtual coffee with me

๐Ÿ’ป Learn more about who I am and what I do


// Disclaimer //ย 

Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the host and guests and do not represent their employers or associated organizations. This content is intended for informational purposes and should not be considered professional marketing guidance. Listeners act on the information provided at their own risk.

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9 months ago
27 minutes

On Marketing
What is marketing? Have you ever had that thought before? No? Well, I have. Quite a bit, weirdly. Oh, hey there, I'm Jordan ๐Ÿ‘‹. I'm a man from Wisconsin on a Frodo-like journey to discover what marketing is. Like, really is. Not the fluff. Or the hype tactics. The real stuff. Strategy. Processes. First principles. The things that ACTUALLY help a company grow and win. Everything I wish I had learned when I started five years ago. I hope to shorten that learning curve for you. Some questions I explore on this show with my guests: - What is the job marketing should get done in a company? - What is one of your strongest held beliefs about marketing? - What is something you believe that few other marketers believe? This podcast is for me to learn from some of the best thinkers on this planet, and hopefully, you can pick up some wisdom too. Join me on this journey to learn.