For Keith Swift, coaching is completely effort based, but it starts with camaraderie and education. As Director of Strength and Conditioning at Wofford College, his philosophy is clear: educate, heal, and enhance. While playing collegiate football and studying exercise science, Swift learned early to question the “why” behind training and encourages his student-athletes to do the same. At an academically rigorous institution, his educational focus fits right in, fostering curiosity, technical precision, and peer coaching. Swift shares how his experiences across professional baseball, the private sector, and collegiate programs each shaped his foundation while making it his own. Amid collegiate challenges — from the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) transfer portal to the growing authority of student-athletes — Swift holds firm that “there is no substitute for hard work.” His goal is simple: help student-athletes leave with both a degree and a championship ring, setting them up for success in sport and life.
Reach out to Coach Swift on Instagram: @worqueowt and @wofford_strength, Twitter/X: @CoachSwift93, LinkedIn: @keithswift, or by email: swiftkd@wofford.edu | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“Building it [Stillman College] from the ground up was a challenge. I was the only one. I think I had 14 sports by myself. And that was a time. I definitely cut my teeth as a strength coach there. And a lot of people shy away from situations like that.” 8:40
“When they start to coach each other and they have a lot of peer coaching and they're using proper terms and they're doing things the right way, that's like the biggest pat on the back and the biggest reward…” 10:50
“The expectations in the weight room, having my own expectations. They know that Coach Swift is going to come with it and you can't come with anything less. All I want is all you got. And some guys, I let them know ahead of time, like, this is-- think about this being a renovation. There's no renovation without demolition. And in the weight room, this is the demo zone. We're literally breaking your body down, and we're going to teach you how to recoup and recover and build yourself back up.” 16:25
Strength coaches build resilience in others, but sometimes life puts their own to the test. Katie Guillory, now Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach at her alma mater, Louisiana State University (LSU), faced that test after a summer accident led to a below-knee amputation. As a former LSU softball captain with extensive knee and hip surgeries, Guillory explains her strong foundation for physical and mental recovery. For her, that means showing up and getting after it, even on hard days. Guillory encourages others to “act yourself into existence for a second,” believing that small, consistent steps — especially when motivation is low — are what build strong mindsets. Supported by the LSU community, she reflects on balancing relentless drive with vulnerability, accepting help, giving herself grace, and finding strength in connection. Her experience underscores that resilience is a lifelong mindset, reminding listeners that the same habits that build athletes can also rebuild their coach.
Reach out to Katie on Instagram: @steel_guil and X/Twitter: @steel_guil | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“At the end of the day, it costs nothing to be a good person, and it's hard to stay positive. But at the end of the day, it costs nothing to be a good person and kind to people. And I hope that I did that the best way I knew how when I was an athlete, and some of that has laid the foundation for the community rallying around me as an alumni now. And I'm so beyond grateful for that. I can't really put it into words, and I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully encompass everything I want to say, and all the people I want to thank.” 5:08
“I've always been up for a challenge, and always up for an adventure. So when someone tells me I can't do something, my innate response is, watch me.” 11:30
“She was just a big proponent of when you wake up and you don't feel like working, work. When you wake up and you're tired, work. Just find a way to get something done. And it doesn't have to be much, and that's what I've learned. It can look different, but just wake up and do it. And so much of our success, especially in the collegiate realm, is not about what you say. It's about what you do. And it's about the habits that you can build, and the mindset will follow that. And if you can just act yourself into existence for a second, I think that goes such a long way… that's what I'm trying to help these kids see through my actions.” 14:00
Mentorship isn’t flawless — and that’s where its power lies. Erik Hernandez, Associate Director for Sports Performance – Olympic Sports at the University of North Carolina (UNC) at Chapel Hill, has built his career on turning imperfect scenarios into lasting lessons for athletes and young coaches alike. For over 14 years at UNC, he has guided lacrosse, volleyball, and golf, adapting his voice to each culture while holding firm to shared standards of accountability and growth. Hernandez streamlines training into a three-phase model — explosive, strength, and remedial — yet emphasizes that delivery and communication matter more than complexity. He reminds athletes, “modifications are part of progress,” linking health, recovery, and seasonal demands to long-term development. For interns and early-career coaches, his advice is clear: earn mentors by serving others, and learn from every scenario, even the imperfect ones. Hear how mentorship, adaptability, and athlete health point the way forward for stronger teams and longer careers.
Reach out to Coach Hernandez on Instagram: @hernandezstrength or by email: ehhernan@email.unc.edu | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“Once you feel more confident in your program, […] then you can get complicated with the coaching and the delivery and how you need to adapt that.” 9:00
“If you fail in it, we're going to have a conversation about it. But that's just our standard of growth. And the goal is to make you better for your teammates, make you better for your future husbands and wives, and make you better for your future employers and family.” 13:25
“Young coaches should seek to learn from every single scenario, and it doesn't have to be the most ideal scenario. I've been told before, you learn more sometimes by seeing things done the wrong way than the right way, because that's going to help in your longevity to see someone kind of burn out or something happen because they do things a certain way that maybe doesn't fit with what you think would give you the most longevity. So I think really being able to take something away from any situation that you're in,” 15:53
Building athletes who are strong, healthy, and resilient requires more than sets and reps, starting with a shift in mindset. Christi Edson, Head of Performance for the Orlando Pride in the National Women’s Soccer League (NWSL), shares how she integrates strength and conditioning with sport science to sustain athlete health and performance. She reflects on the field’s evolution from the well-known “Bigger, Faster, Stronger” program to a training culture emphasizing resilience, active recovery, and durability. Drawing from her experience coaching high school athletes to NWSL professionals, Edson highlights the adaptability and creativity coaches need. Those qualities help her to develop athletes who can thrive through a demanding 11-month season. She details how tools like GPS, force plates, and velocity-based training sharpen communication and reshape expectations in the gym. Her story points coaches toward the future of athlete development: collaboration, precise load management, and long-term health as the foundation of strength.
Connect with Christi on Instagram: @christiedson and LinkedIn: @christiana-edson | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Read the article, “A Creative Mind in the Professional Development of a Strength and Conditioning Coach,” from NSCA Coach, 11(1), February 2024 — referenced in this episode’s return-to-play discussion. NSCA Members enjoy full publication access.
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Show Notes“I think that would be a good example of how I fell into the sport science side, is I was trained up as a S&C coach and then was given technology to figure out after the fact. One of those technologies being force plates, which I have come to love. They're so diverse in what I can do with them in the gym.” 9:15
“I tell my athletes that all the time. You're not here for me. You're not here for me. You are here to play soccer. And my job is to help you stay healthy, to play soccer. We have some words up in the gym, which I finally got. It was strong, healthy, resilient. […] I want you to be healthy mentally and physically, because I don't need you to just slog through a season. I want you to feel good going into the weekend. But then resilient, you're going to take some knocks. But can we bounce back from that? And that strong foundation, I think, is a big piece of that.” 17:25
“Keep your ear to the ground for internships. […] Get those NSCA certifications in early because they are becoming more required. And the organizations that you work for have their ear to the ground. They understand what the minimum standard should be.” 24:10
You don’t have to love the weight room, but you can’t last without it. Champ Bailey, a National Football League (NFL) Hall of Famer, admits he never enjoyed lifting, but says respecting the work gave him the edge to sustain 15 seasons at the highest level. Hear how his preparation evolved from traditional lifts to readiness routines — core, mobility, warm-ups, and recovery — that kept him fresh through the NFL grind. Bailey emphasizes that strength and conditioning coaches are undervalued leaders who “see you at all levels,” guide comebacks, and build buy-in with simple numbers. He recalls how a failed conditioning test led to one of his best seasons, and how weight room leadership left no cracks to ensure buy-in from everyone. Bailey continues his impact through the Positive Athlete initiative, using sport as a platform for growth. Gain practical ways to tailor training by role, earn athlete respect, and build a winning culture.
Connect with Champ via email at: ChampBailey@positiveathlete.org | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“I'm a firm believer in the best way to lead is by example. And it doesn't mean just performing on the field. It's how you conduct yourself in meetings. And you don't ever have to be vocal. You let your actions speak for you.” 20:10
“But Positive Athlete is a platform-- it's a recognition platform. So what we do is we recognize student athletes 9th through 12th grade for really just being positive individuals. So it could be somebody who's overcome a terrible injury, just great in the community, great student, good teammate, always on time, always showing up, accountable, all the things that sports sort of teaches us without us even thinking about it.” 26:05
“You've got to think how we value sports and the scrutiny. If every company was run the way you run a sports organization, and the detail, and the evaluation, and the team-oriented environment, and everybody knowing the mission, and staying on task, understanding your role, that's what a team looks like.” 32:30
Few strength coaches have shaped sport performance like Al Vermeil — the only strength coach to earn championship rings in both the National Football League (NFL) and National Basketball Association (NBA). In this Gatorade Performance Partner Special Episode, Vermeil shares how a career built on explosiveness, adaptability, and relentless curiosity has transformed teams at every level. From advancing plyometrics and Olympic lifts in the 1970s to creating the performance pyramid and the innovative “time machine” testing system, his methods have influenced generations of coaches and athletes worldwide. Known for blending timeless principles with fresh, actionable ideas, he explains how mechanics, group management, and collaboration create consistent results and lasting trust. Along the way, Vermeil offers rare perspectives on coaching longevity, revealing how his adaptability and curiosity have kept him learning — and lifting — into his 80s. Gain practical insights to keep explosiveness central, integrate performance science, and strengthen your long-term coaching impact.
Reach out to Coach Vermeil by email at: a60vermeil@sisna.com | Email Jon Jost at: jonathan.jost@pepsico.com | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs or LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs.
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Show Notes“My overall philosophy never really changed. […] I always felt that the most important thing in performance was explosive power because in the sports I dealt with, it's instantaneous. It's an impulse.” 2:20
“I always recommend young coaches - if you really want to be good, go learn to coach a team sport. I don't care if it's seventh grade girls basketball or boys. Learn, know how to organize groups.” 9:35
“The other thing I recommend young coaches do is go out and learn how to coach olympic lift, even just one of them and track and field because you'll learn mechanics.” 10:05
“Well, you don't have time in sports, whether it's football, baseball bat. When you're accelerating, especially-- you don't want to wind up. And if you're in football and you're a wind up tackler, you just got run over by the running back.” 16:50
What's behind enduring success at the highest level of college athletics? Kate Smith, Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at the University of Michigan, shares insights from nearly 14 years of experience coaching multiple sports in a competitive collegiate environment. Smith emphasizes sustained excellence through adaptability, genuine curiosity, and openness to opportunities — even outside of athletics. Drawing on her private-sector experiences, she explains how diverse roles helped shape her flexible, athlete-centered philosophy. Smith candidly addresses current collegiate challenges, including navigating Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) distractions and adjusting motivational strategies across team cultures and generations. As a Certified Performance and Sport Scientist® (CPSS®), Smith highlights how integrating data-driven insights helps her create a more effective training environment. This expertise uniquely positions her to bridge athletics with academics, deepening collaboration on campus-wide performance initiatives. Learn how to implement practical strategies for keeping athletes engaged amidst external pressures, leverage performance data meaningfully, and continually refresh your coaching approach.
Connect with Kate via email at kannehay@umich.edu and on Instagram: @katehaycock | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Show Notes“Social media, as well, presents its own challenge with the mental health aspect, where if they post something as part of an NIL deal, but then have comments that are bullying comments or derogatory comments, what have you, making sure that they understand that this is-- it doesn't speak to who they are as people.” 15:00
“I don't know how many times I've had athletes come up to me now and ask, hey, I saw this exercise on TikTok. Can we do this in our lift? Well, like, how do we get them to understand this might be a great exercise, but in a different context? When we're training for a specific sport and we're in a certain time of the year within our annual plan, this might not be the best exercise. So how do we get them to buy into what we've planned out with the amount of information that they have in their hands?” 20:50
“I like to say, always leave the door open. If there's something that sparks your interest, it's sparked it for a reason. So pursue it. Look into it. Don't close the door on it because it might not be directly related to strength and conditioning.” 33:20
Coaching elite mixed martial arts (MMA) athletes demands creativity, adaptability, and a global mindset. Gavin Pratt, Senior Director of Strength and Conditioning at the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Performance Institute, shares insights from his international career. Pratt reflects on preparing athletes for the Chinese National Games and managing strength and conditioning at the world’s first MMA academy in Shanghai. Applying a systems-based approach, he tackles MMA’s unique challenges — including unpredictable training schedules, diverse personalities and backgrounds, session intensity, and load management. Driven by passion rather than prestige, Pratt emphasizes he’s never been a "tracksuit hunter" — someone motivated primarily by titles or status. He highlights MMA’s innovation potential, especially when using individualized technology based on athletes' force or velocity deficiencies. Pratt contrasts the United States’ expertise in speed, agility, and change of direction with Australia’s early adoption of sports science. He also provides valuable interview advice to help coaches communicate effectively under pressure. Discover practical strategies to elevate your coaching impact.
Connect with Gavin via email at gpratt@ufc.com and on Instagram: @gav_pratt | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“You're not an electrician whose license only works in a certain state of your country and you have to stay there for your whole career. We have an opportunity to see the world, see different experiences, and understand even our own industry better.” 7:20
“It's getting out of your comfort zone, no matter how uncomfortable that is. That's probably up to the individual. But there's a journey as part of any career. You can't skip the queue. There's a process to accumulating knowledge and experience. So you might have all the Xs and Os down pat, but even the inexperience might not allow you to express that knowledge as well as maybe you could. That's part of the journey, as well, learning what works and what doesn't for different athletes and different colleagues, even. It's part of the process, and you can't rush it.” 10:40
“We need to find people that understand the science, but have an even better understanding of how they can communicate that simply and effectively to colleagues and athletes. That is the skill set of being an S&C coach ultimately. […] You can have all the knowledge of the theory, but if it doesn't come from here and be expressed from a really simplistic standpoint, then it's not as valuable as what it could be.” 23:50
How do you find your coaching voice? Michelle Pifer, Associate Director of Strength and Conditioning at Rutgers University, shares how mentorship and professional communication helped her establish an authentic coaching identity. Reflecting on her extensive intern journey across Ivy League and Division III athletics, Pifer highlights key milestones that shaped her coaching approach. These include observing experienced coaches, applying constructive feedback, and effectively navigating challenging athlete personalities. She offers practical strategies, such as structured time-blocking and maintaining clear boundaries, to accommodate athlete accessibility, in-season travel, and work-life balance. Pifer discusses how coaches must adapt to evolving roles, like managing and interpreting athlete monitoring technology. She also addresses common coaching pitfalls, including inappropriate language during presentations, stressing that coaches can be both authentic and relatable without sacrificing professionalism. Tune in to clarify your coaching identity, enhance your professional skillset, and maximize your impact in the strength and conditioning profession.
Connect with Michelle via email at mpifer@scarletknights.com, on Instagram: @coach_pifer, and on Twitter/X: @coach_mpifer | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Show Notes“Normally, my day, let alone my week, is already planned out. So for me, it's just staying true to that because I already probably made a commit to somebody else.” 9:50
“Those mentors allowed me to be like, how is she going to address that? How is she going to handle that? And they authentically let me do it. And luckily, I definitely have a little bit more of like I'm going to nip that in the bud type of personality that I handled them well. And getting that experience but then also getting that feedback from them was a big, big milestone because I think as a young professional, finding your coaching voice, finding what is appropriate, and not appropriate, effective is super hard in a coach. And for me, that was a huge milestone” 14:40
“Then you're gaining coaching experience and on top of that, addressing some unfamiliar areas, maybe athletes you haven't worked with in the past, sports you haven't worked with, challenging personalities, all the different areas that we address in this field at times.” 15:50
“I think it's the context, your demeanor, your tone. And are you authentic?” 29:45
Do you know your legal blind spots? Attorney and former collegiate strength coach Reed Wainwright explores how legal expertise reinforces professional standards in strength and conditioning. Wainwright has been instrumental in developing NSCA resources that help professionals mitigate the inherent risks associated with athletics. He highlights key areas — such as facility safety, equipment management, and emergency preparedness — that help coaches effectively advocate for their athletes and protect their careers. Emphasizing professionalism, Wainwright notes, "the more professional we act, the more professional we're perceived.” He underscores why enhancing public perception is crucial for improving compensation, overcoming stereotypes, and supporting long-term field growth. Wainwright also reflects on how his precise, methodical approach as a strength coach has translated seamlessly into his legal practice. Discover actionable strategies to help minimize risk, stay protected, and elevate the strength and conditioning profession.
Contact with Reed via email at reed@wainwrightattorney.com and on LinkedIn: @reed-wainwright | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Review the NSCA Strength and Conditioning Professional Standards and Guidelines (PDF) to identify liability risks, improve safety, and enhance program quality.
Watch Wainwright’s session, What's Our Standard of Care?, and its implications on liability from the 2017 NSCA Coaches Conference.
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Show Notes“You've got to make sure that you are focused on their development based on, number one, what has been scientifically proven and, number two what has your experience showed on a consistent basis.” 4:00
“Another topic along these lines is emergency planning and response, and that's one of the other legal areas we talk a lot about in strength and conditioning. Are you, as a strength and conditioning coach, involved in your institution's emergency action plan? Are you knowledgeable in that area? That's an area that could be a huge liability.” 8:27
“Maybe you do need a alternative licensure to become a teacher to get your foot in the door, but there are institutions that are hiring CSCS strength coaches to come in because they add value.” 17:20
How do you build a sustainable high-performance culture despite yearly assistant coach rotations and demanding schedules? Alice Read, Assistant Athletic Director for Sport Performance at Vassar College, shares expertise from managing 29 teams and 600 student-athletes while continuously "riding the rollercoaster" of Division III scheduling. Read explores strategies for maintaining program continuity, including matching assistant coaches to sports based on strengths and growth areas. She emphasizes advocating for daily staff lifts to test and refine programs firsthand. In a full-circle moment, Read, once an NSCA Foundation Assistantship Recipient, now serves on the committee awarding these opportunities, demonstrating the value of early professional involvement. She also discusses collaborative problem solving within the Liberty League Strength and Conditioning Committee and explains how the College Coaches Professional Development Group (PDG) provided boots-on-the-ground guidance for the 2024 NSCA Strategic Plan. Tune in for actionable insights on mentorship, collaboration, and longevity in collegiate strength and conditioning.
Connect with Alice via email at aread@vassar.edu and on Instagram: @ajpr3 and @vassar_strong | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Show Notes“I think I'm the coach I am today because I was thrown right into the fire. I definitely had good support, so I wasn't going to fail. […] I want to give young coaches the kind of experience I had, which was get your feet wet right out the door and experiment yourself so you can really understand how your programs are working.” 3:40
“I think especially to younger coaches, I think that for so long you're thinking, what's the next step to push my career forward? I need to build my network or things like that. I think it's important to think outside of just yourself. I think at some point, you have to take a step back and think, OK, this career is treating me really well, or I'm building all these networks to get me to that next dream job or whatever it might be.” 18:15
“My advice is that you're never too young to get involved, […] get involved in some way on a small level, even if it's just attending your first national conference. Get to a conference. Attend some of these meetings you feel really passionately about. And don't be afraid to speak up.” 18:45
What defines true toughness in coaching? Dan Perlmutter presents an alternative to the “tough strength coach” stereotype, reframing success as adaptability, resilience, and relentless positivity. As Director of Sports Performance and Head Olympic Sports Performance Coach at Duke University, Perlmutter reflects on building a strong culture rooted in genuine relationships and longevity. He explains Duke’s structured approach to developing interns and coaching assistants, highlighting purposeful recruiting and intentional mentorship to transform passion into professionalism. Perlmutter emphasizes a gratitude lens and people-focused philosophy, always prioritizing the athlete in front of him. He also addresses how strength and conditioning coaches can navigate collegiate shifts, such as Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals and the transfer portal, by reinforcing the weight room environment and culture. If you are seeking practical strategies to build a sustainable career and a workplace you look forward to each day, this conversation is your blueprint.
Connect with Dan via email at dan.perlmutter@duke.edu and on Instagram: @theothercoachp | Meet the Duke University Sports Performance Staff on their website | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Show Notes“I think it's just making sure that we really, intentionally focus on helping each other out, taking care of each other, working together, filling each other's gaps as staff, right, so that if we really legitimately care about those things […] then it kind of blends into all the things that we do with our athletes. And they see us doing that and functioning that way. And it helps our teams function that way. So maybe it contributes to the team cultures for each sports program here, too.” 7:20
“It takes pretty tough, resilient people to do this work. And everybody finds that toughness and that resiliency in different ways. And I think maybe over the years, there's been a stereotype of what the tough strength coach looks like. That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about somebody who is willing to stick it out in tough situations, willing to work really long hours, willing to pivot a million times a day, and adapt a million times a day, and be out in the cold, and then be inside, and then be out in the rain. And all the different challenges that are thrown at us as professionals in this field-- I look at every single one of those as positives. I'm annoyingly positive and optimistic. I'm sure some of the folks around here get sick of me talking this way, but I think there's opportunity in every one of those situations.” 14:45
“One of the big pieces of advice that I would give to young folks who are on the job search right now or figuring out what lane they want to go down is to not forget that this is a people-focused profession. And it's not just you leading or serving athletes. You've got to find a place that you really connect the people that you're-- connect with the people that you're going to work with every day.” 15:58
Sam Moore’s path into sport science is defined by taking risks and chasing meaningful questions. After a devastating knee injury as a collegiate athlete, Moore not only returned to compete, but she also discovered her calling in strength and conditioning. She recounts her coaching, sport science, and hybrid roles prior to leaving a full-time position to pursue her PhD at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Moore describes sport science as problem-solving and drawing evidence across disciplines to drive innovation. She discusses her research on female athlete availability in elite settings, including nuances like body composition, recovery, and high speed exposure in training. Moore advises young professionals to remain open-minded, pitch their ideal position if it does not exist, and go “all in”— knowing one decision does not define forever. Whether you are a coach or researcher, this episode delivers real-world insights on navigating your career with courage and curiosity.
Connect with Sam on Instagram: @sammoorestrong and Twitter/X: @SamMooreStrong | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Show Notes“One of the biggest pieces of advice that I feel like was helpful for me in my career was that you can-- if you're good enough at something, somebody will pay you to do it. So, there might not be a job out there that is what you want to do with the description that you want. That's OK. You can go in, and you can sell it.” 18:53
“I think it was my mom that told me whatever choice you make is the right one because it's the one you made, and you don't have to do something forever. You can work a job for one year or for six months, right? […] I think that was really helpful for me to make a switch to that kind of mindset when it comes to my career rather than thinking I had to have it all planned out for the next 10 years at every point and every move.” 24:00
“In terms of any advice for the coaching world […] just being really curious and being transparent about it, I think is really important. And that's what's going to help drive us along.” 39:16
Former collegiate hockey athlete Cole Hergott thrived in the offseason, but it took a setback to accelerate his path in strength and conditioning. After losing his spot on the team, he channeled his work ethic into interning with Trinity Western University. Years later, he returned to his alma mater as Head Strength and Conditioning Coach. Only 25 at the time, Hergott recounts the unique challenge of coaching athletes who were older or previous classmates. Leading over 300 athletes as the sole full-time strength and conditioning coach, he quickly learned to “write all your plans in pencil,” while building trust, optimizing logistics, and adapting through COVID-19 disruptions. Hergott emphasizes mentorship and encourages coaches to lean on those who navigated similar challenges. As part of the NSCA British Columbia Advisory Board, he encourages listeners to share their practical insights at local events. Hergott’s journey underscores the value of continual growth and embracing uncertainty.
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Show Notes“I think for young coaches starting out, a lot of it is, yeah, just being willing to make mistakes, being willing to adapt, and to continue to grow and learn. Call people, text people, send emails, ask questions. We talked about mentors. Lean on your mentors because they've been there. They've made the mistakes. I've made the mistakes and I continue to make mistakes every day, but I think that's how you learn and grow.” 11:05
“Strength and conditioning is not something that we're just going to figure out and somebody's going to have all the answers. As I talked about before, there's more than one way to skin a cat. And so it's important to learn from a bunch of people who maybe think differently than you so that you can continue to get good results.” 11:30
“I'd say if you're somebody who's looking to speak, find something that you're good at, something that you are passionate about, that you like to speak about, that you're good at. And then don't be afraid to reach out to your advisory board…” 16:15
Squash demands speed, strength, and control at the edge of human range — but still suffers from a massive stigma around heavy lifting and underuse of strength and conditioning. Brigita Roemer is leading the shift as Director of Strength and Conditioning for U.S. Squash, where she oversees all off-court physical development. After suffering a devastating injury as a track and field athlete, she discovered strength and conditioning when a biomechanics team “put [her] back together,” setting her on a linear path in the profession. Assigned to a sport she had never heard of before, Roemer began by emphasizing injury risk reduction, full range of motion, and “strength at length” to meet squash’s extreme movement and deceleration demands. With frequent connective tissue injuries like sprains and strains, athlete availability remains a top concern. By prioritizing continuing education and building relationships, Roemer has helped U.S. Squash make history — on the path to LA 2028.
Connect with Brigita on Instagram: @brigey_lux | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
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Show Notes“I think honestly-- and people say this all the time-- it is the relationships that you make and it is the people that you know.” 5:21
“I think in squash and strength and conditioning, traditionally, they haven't had the closest relationship as far as foundational strength and conditioning goes. Historically, not many players lifted heavy. There's still like a massive stigma around heavy lifting and squash with making players bulky and slow and all the things that we're a little bit more current on in the field.” 11:00
“Because, physically, it's a brutal sport, man. It really is. I did a ton of research on any sort of studies that have been done in the sport. There aren't a lot, but there's some, and they spend something like, 81 to 95% of the time on court in zone 5. There's six to eight times their body weight going through the kinetic chain when you do a hard lunge to the front. Just the percentage of connective tissue injuries in the sport are wild. I mean, the season is basically all year long, with the exception of June to August.” 12:07
“I always start with injury reduction first. They can't get better at the sport if they can't be on court. So the best ability is availability, as they say. I make sure that whatever programming I do really hones in on a lot of that and the connective tissue stuff.” 17:25
After fifteen years with the Denver Nuggets, Felipe Eichenberger has witnessed the evolution of National Basketball Association (NBA) performance firsthand. The demands of an NBA season include 82+ games, relentless travel, and the challenge of staying fresh through it all. Eichenberger reveals their post-game lifting culture, driven by the philosophy: “If it’s a hard day, let’s make it hard.” Prioritizing compliance over hardware, he emphasizes flexible periodization and nailing the basics to meet each player’s needs — whether navigating injuries, tailoring programs to position demands, or microdosing training for longevity. At the heart of it all is buy-in, trust, and accountability. Eichenberger shares the importance of leveraging psychology, getting top players to set the tone for the team, and balancing consistency with creativity. With more jobs and awareness in NBA strength and conditioning than ever, this episode explores how to make an impact at basketball’s highest level.
Connect with Felipe on Instagram: @eichbra and LinkedIn:@felipe-eichenberger | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Learn more about the National Basketball Strength and Conditioning Association (NBSCA), the Official Basketball Partner of the NSCA.
Show Notes“We try to be specific as much as possible, position, size, and all those things… But if you go to the principles, so if you go to overload principle, how do you get stronger is by lifting weights. How you maintain strength is by lifting weights. So, we have to play with the volume and things like that, but you have to lift weights often.” 11:40
“You can only work with players if they buy into your program. If they don't, they can go somewhere else. Like they have enough money to hire somebody else. They have enough money to do those things in the NBA. But why does a player want to work out with you? What kind of buy-in are you creating with that player? It could be different things. Accountability, if you say you're going to do something, do something. Be there before the player. Like show the player that you want to work with that player, right?” 18:00
“You have to focus on the whole team. That's what strength and conditioning is. So, my belief is that you're going to train the player that doesn't touch the court, and then you're going to play the player the most minutes very similar. So, like you got to give a chance to the guy that's like, in our case, our 17th guy trains the same as the first guy that we have.” 26:30
Thrown into the fire — that is how Jeanne Rankin learned, and it’s how she’s developing her athletes and interns at Coastal Carolina University. Rankin reveals how trust is what drives buy-in, performance, and success; without it, even the best program is just a piece of paper. She breaks down some of strength and conditioning’s toughest realities — long hours, relentless demands, and work-life challenges — which require strategic approaches across career stages. A process-oriented coach, Rankin shares practical strategies for setting boundaries, maximizing efficiency, and avoiding burnout when 70-hr workweeks are common. She also delivers real-world insights on career longevity, professional growth, and adapting to an evolving industry. With salary conversations, career sustainability, and the future of collegiate strength and conditioning on the table, Rankin brings an unfiltered, solutions-driven perspective. Whether you are just starting out or an experienced professional, this episode delivers straight talk on what it takes to succeed long-term.
Connect with Jeanne on Instagram: @thegingerguns or by email at: jrankin@coastal.edu | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Check out the 2022 NSCA Salary Survey discussed in this episode and watch for 2025 NSCA Salary Survey results coming soon. Additionally, find actionable strategies to support a raise request in the NSCA’s new article, “How to Ask for a Raise in Strength & Conditioning.”
Read the NSCA’s proposal to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) to recognize “strength and conditioning coach” as a detailed occupation in their classification system.
Show Notes“If you've got a coach who's really bought into what you're doing. You're going to run through a wall not just for yourself, but for them too, because you know that they're doing a good job leading the way.” 9:45
“It's OK to make mistakes. I want it to be an environment where you can make mistakes. So just kind of taking in all the experiences that people give you, I think, is very important for younger strength coaches, learning from mistakes.” 14:30
“My biggest job is, sure, I want you to get better as an athlete, but I want you to be a person who's ready to go into whatever line of work you want to and to help you develop into a better person and human being that's going to make this world a better place.” 24:35
Night after night, Cirque du Soleil’s performing arts athletes defy gravity and expectations — executing elite-level feats across 480 shows annually. Maintaining peak performance requires more than talent; it demands strategic preparation, adaptability, and trust. Channeling backgrounds in dance and martial arts, married coaching duo Mike and Jade Esmeralda bring a philosophy of continuous improvement to Cirque’s collectivistic infrastructure. Preparing performers with diverse training experiences, they connect on an artistic level to balance readiness with creative expression. From applying RAMP (Raise, Activate, Mobilize, Potentiate) warm-ups for mitigating injury risk to tactical load carriage insights for LED costumes, the Esmeraldas leverage parallels across high-performance environments. Strategies for Cirque’s “valuable human artistic assets” must enhance durability, manage load, and support longevity in an unpredictable, physically — and psychologically — demanding profession. Jade’s evidence-based journalism also combats social media misinformation. Discover how they adapt daily, build buy-in across cultures, and redefine training for a one-of-a-kind population.
Connect with Mike Instagram: @m.b.esmeralda, and LinkedIn: @michaelesmeralda, and Jade on Instagram: @jadesmeralda_ | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Discover more stage-specific strategies in the NSCA Performing Arts Special Interest Group on LinkedIn.
See some of these impressive feats mentioned in this episode performed by Cirque du Soleil athletes on Instagram at @cirquedusoleil and @cirquedusoleilcasting.
Show Notes“As far as needs analysis, I always watch the shows, and I time it. Like everything else, like evidence-based practice, it all started with just really learning on what that is. Before it became research. It was all practice-based evidence. Then it became evidence-based practice. So that's kind of what we're doing right now, whether it's, like, energy systems, how long are they hanging on that strap, what positions are they going into, what are the injury points that I'm looking at, and how can I make sure that they become very durable? Mind you, they are performing 10 times a week, two sequence shows per day with an hour break in between, and it all adds up to 480 shows a year.” 9:55
“I think no matter what show it is, it really encourages you to get creative and get experimental with what you're doing because for me, the biggest correlation that I saw was with tactical populations and how they have to wear different types of equipment, whether it's strapped in a harness in the front or the back. And then suddenly, I'm diving into research to learn about different interventions and strategies that can help tactical populations and just seeing a correlation between traditional, tactical, maybe special operations who have to wear certain equipment, and these dancers that may be totally different in terms of the surface, but they might have more similarities than you might think.” 23:27
In the "SEC of Division III," championships and high standards define the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC). Now in his 10th year at Trinity College, Bill DeLongis reinforces high performance is not about scholarships — it’s about culture, strategy, and buy-in. DeLongis outlines how small-school strength coaches manage high athlete-to-staff ratios, maximize resources, and create top-tier training environments despite fewer external incentives. He discusses Trinity College’s sport science partnerships, the power of internship-driven staffing, and why Division III athletes who are playing purely for the love of the game bring a unique level of motivation. Embodying immersive coaching, he explains how experiencing a sport firsthand (through playing, site visits, and athlete surveys) enhances training specificity and buy-in. As Chair of the NSCA Ice Hockey Special Interest Group (SIG), he shares strength strategies, lessons from Team USA Women’s Hockey, and key NSCA resources. His approach proves that any program can compete at the top — with or without scholarships.
Connect with Coach DeLongis on Instagram: @billdelongis, LinkedIn: @bill-delongis, or email: bill.delongis@trincoll.edu| Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
Join DeLongis and other experts across sports and performance domains in the NSCA’s community-driven Special Interest Groups (SIGs) today.
Take your sport-specific knowledge a step further with NSCA’s Strength Training for Hockey.
Show Notes“The athletes are not on an athletic scholarship, as probably most people know. They're playing the sport for the love of the game. They're very motivated. They want to be here. There's nothing really holding them. There's no NIL [Name, Image, and Likeness] money. There's no scholarship over their head. They're playing it and training because they love their sport.” 3:25
“That's 30 different cultures, obviously, more than 30 personalities. Every team has got their vibe and their style of training. So, you do get a lot of reps. You get to see a lot of different programming, work with a lot of different personalities.” 7:20
“That would be something I would recommend to anyone taking over a new sport is play the sport, and obviously, you might not play it at a super high level like I am playing at the lowest level you can play in men's league hockey in the state of Connecticut. But I'm out there. I'm experiencing it. I'm feeling what they're feeling. And then when we get on the ice, we'd be able to do our speed work or our conditioning work. I'm actually out there on skates, which I think really helps with a lot of the buy-in. It’s like, ‘All right, this guy cares. He is taking it upon himself to learn our sport, which is so different.’” 19:40
Brianna Battles believes athleticism does not end when motherhood begins. Frustrated by the lack of resources and support for pregnant and postpartum athletes, she founded Everyday Battles to bridge the gap. Now, she empowers everyone from Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) fighters and Olympians to hobbyists to challenge their perceived fragility, navigate body and identity changes, and pursue a lifetime of athleticism. Battles notes how strength and conditioning coaches are uniquely poised to influence communities and train general populations using a top-down coaching philosophy. Conducting needs analyses, she focuses on their athletic history, predispositions, and how they manage breathing, pressure, and tension during movement. By reverse-engineering a proactive return to performance, she helps clients overcome social media glorification and fearmongering to design an athlete-mom life that serves them. Battles discusses tapping into the “athlete brain” that craves routine and buy-in. Her advice? Get curious, practice brave, and embrace entrepreneurship as another form of progressive overload.
Connect with Brianna on Instagram: @brianna.battles and @pregnant.postpartum.athlete or by email at: brianna@briannabattles.com | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs
This episode discusses new CASCE field experience requirements that dictate a minimum of two substantially different work experiences. Learn more about CASCE accreditation at NSCA.com/CASCE.
Show Notes“Athleticism does not end when motherhood begins.” 4:45
“We have a really big opportunity as strength and conditioning coaches to look at our knowledge base and our experience working with so many different high level athletes and saying, that is a small percentage of the population, but we have a responsibility to be able to apply our knowledge and help to our family, to our friends and to people to help them pursue this lifetime of athleticism, even if it's not at a super high level.” 8:50
“If we're wanting to pursue this lifetime of athleticism, which extends beyond just pregnancy and the trenches of postpartum, there's a lot we have to learn about our body and our relationship with fitness and just kind of our overall approach to health.” 17:10
“It's getting curious because it's not just about becoming a mother. It's knowing how to support girls and women in general because we have different-- we are not fragile at all, but we also might have different considerations. And that's all. It's just, it's understanding what those considerations may be at all different points across the lifespan, from coaching youth girls to collegiate athletes to professional athletes that are women, to then pregnancy and postpartum to perimenopausal, to menopausal, to elderly women.” 22:50