In this week’s episode, Kimberly returns from a minor hiatus after sitting with her grief after her grandmother’s passing. Jocelyn sits down with Kimberly in this very vulnerable conversation, where Kimberly opens up about the discomfort of grief she has been experiencing and what the last month has been like for her. Kimberly talks about what it’s been like moving from long-anticipated grief to actual grief. It's a relatable and moving episode that you don’t want to need. Email ...

In this episode, Jocelyn and Ted delve into his experiences as a therapist, exploring the profound lessons his work has imparted about therapy and the complexities of grief. Ted shares his personal journey through loss, including the suicide of his best friend and the estrangement from his mother and brother. This heartfelt conversation provides valuable insights for anyone navigating grief in complicated relationships. A song from Ted that might be helpful as you navigate through the field ...

In this intimate episode, Jocelyn and her cousin Lizzie share their poignant experiences of losing their mothers unexpectedly five years apart, which also led to the unraveling of their close-knit family unit. Lizzie recounts the sudden loss of her mother at just 13 years old due to complications from Crohn's disease. The conversation dives deeply into the emotional aftermath of such losses, exploring the profound effects on family dynamics and the bittersweet memories of family time that are...

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions about suicide and grief, which may be sensitive for some listeners. Please take care while listening. In this heartfelt episode, Jocelyn and Shannon share their deeply personal stories of loss and the bond they formed in college. Jocelyn was grieving when they first met, and by their junior year, Shannon faced the devastating loss of her father to suicide. Together, they discuss how their friendship was a lifeline through their darkest times...

In this week's episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly sit down with Najla Butts, a stay-at-home mom of four in Los Angeles, to discuss the often hidden grief of miscarriage. Najla's story echoes the silent struggles of countless women and motherhood. By sharing her personal experience, she hopes to empower more women to openly discuss miscarriage and what true healing looks like—reminding them they're not alone. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram: @nwtsgriefpodcast TikTok...

In this week’s episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly have an open and vulnerable conversation about real-time grief and anticipatory grief in their lives. As they both have found themselves in a tough week, supporting loved ones in the face of devastating loss, Jocelyn and Kimberly contemplate how people who have experienced grief can still struggle to support others. They offer real insight into what it is like when the grievers are grieving, as well as exploring the topic of what it’s like t...

In this episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly share their personal experiences with grief, discussing what support has—and hasn’t—looked like throughout their journeys. They share valuable insights and lessons learned, offering practical advice for those who may not have firsthand experience with grief on how to provide meaningful support. The episode highlights the profound impact of thoughtful and genuine actions from loved ones, emphasizing how these gestures can make all the difference in ...

In episode eight, Jocelyn and Kimberly speak with Sara Lovestyle (@saralovestyle), venture capitalist, angel investor, content creator, podcast host (@influencetoequity), and mom, who shares her very intimate story with us about how she has experienced variations of immense grief throughout her life - from suddenly losing her best friend in 2022 to learning, grieving, and accepting her son's autism diagnosis. Sara sheds light on the feelings of isolation that grief can cause and how sh...

In this episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly invite their very first guest to share his grief journey with all of us. Carl Foreman Jr., an actor and comedian, bravely talks about the devastating losses he endured back to back and what life has been like since losing two of the people he leaned on and related to most. Carl’s story of grief is raw and unfiltered, heartbreakingly inspiring, yet he still finds a way to make us laugh even through the tears. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com Follo...

In episode six, Jocelyn and Kimberly discuss what it’s like to grieve during birthdays and anniversary dates of their lost loved ones and why these specific days feel so heavy to move through more so than others. They each share personal stories of their grief journeys and how they attempt to create positive experiences during otherwise hard days to help ease the heaviness. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com Follow us on: Instagram: @nwtsgriefpodcast TikTok: @nwtsgriefpodcast YouTube: ...

In this episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly break down the realities of seeking therapy post-loss and bring to light their experiences. In their differing stories, one commonality they found is that even when you have a safe space to talk about grief, it still feels difficult. Yet they have both persevered, given how invaluable it has proven to be and how much it helps to identify roadblocks in their healing journeys. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram: @nwtsgriefpodc...

In this episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly talk about their very different lives after loss and how they each attempted to cope. Given their differences in their grief stories, their coping mechanisms offer two very different perspectives, signifying further, no two grief journeys are the same. From Jocelyn finding herself grieving at only 16 living at home in LA, and Kimberly 26 living in NYC, their stories shed light into the complexities we all face when trying to heal in the immediate afterma...

In this episode, Jocelyn walks us through the tragic day leading up to her mother’s death and what Jocelyn has courageously faced in the aftermath of the accident. Jocelyn’s story is one of resilience and a reminder that life can change in an instant. Her story is heartbreaking and inspiring all at once - reminding us that grief looks different for everyone, yet so much is shared in the grief experience. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram: @nwtsgriefpodcas...

In episode two, Kimberly shares intimate details of her grief story, and about the impact that losing her 29-year-old sister Kali has left on her. Kimberly’s story highlights what anticipatory grief was like for her, how she supported her sister in her cancer journey, and how Kali showed it’s never too late to reinvent yourself and forge a new path forward. Email us: Nothingwasthesamepod@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram: @nwtsgriefpodcast TikTok: @nwtsgriefpodcast YouTube: @noth...

Welcome to the very first episode of Nothing Was The Same. In this episode, Jocelyn and Kimberly discuss how we went from meeting in a Pvolve workout class in NYC to shooting a grief podcast in Culver City within six months. We discuss our who, what, when, where, and why for starting this podcast - which inevitably all lead to the idea that grief is forever, and more people need to talk about how to navigate life through grief. Let us know what topics you want us to discuss - find us ...