Zach and Jill welcome family (and fan favorites) Reed & Brighton Robertson for a vulnerable, joy-filled conversation about moving from a reactive life to actively seeking the Kingdom—in marriage, parenting, community, and grief. From growing up amid Duck Dynasty fame to soldering LED panels for $14/hour, Reed opens up about identity, pressure, and how the Holy Spirit met them in the ordinary. Brighton shares candidly about losing her father, then later her niece and nephew, and how that unimaginable sorrow reshaped their faith, purpose, and pace. Together they wrestle with the “already and not yet” of the Kingdom, temple imagery, and why Jesus’ resurrection in the flesh changes how we live today. If you’re longing for direction, community, or courage to live on offense—not defense—this one’s for you. In this episode: • Family, fame, and finding identity beyond a TV moment • Seek first the Kingdom (Matthew 6) as a daily, active posture • When grief hits: hope, honesty, and the Spirit who sustains (Romans 8) • The tension of Kingdom now & Kingdom coming (Hebrews 12; Ephesians 2; 1 & 2 John) • Why bodies matter: incarnation, resurrection, and temple language • Marriage, kids, and how God uses family to sanctify our loves • Choosing intentional community over isolation

In Mark 8, everything converges: blurry sight, bold confession, and a Kingdom that hell itself can’t stop. Zach Dasher and Branden unpack one of Scripture’s hinge moments—Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ—and why Jesus’ reply, “On this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it,” still defines reality. From the staged healing at Bethsaida to the confrontation “Get behind me, Satan,” this episode traces how revelation becomes revolution. What happens when our vision of the Kingdom shifts from power and control to self-giving love? How does the cross redefine dominion? Drawing on weddings that became living parables of community and sacrificial love, Zach and Branden challenge the defensive posture of modern Christianity and recover the explosive confidence of a Church that storms the gates of hell.

Zach and Jill reflect on the feeding of the 4,000 in Mark 8, where Jesus—now among the Gentiles—reenacts the Exodus story in a new wilderness. Just as manna once fell from heaven, bread now multiplies in the hands of the Messiah, revealing that God’s presence is never barren ground. In this conversation, they explore how the abundance of bread points to the abundance of grace—showing that when God provides, He provides more than enough.

One year in—52 episodes—and I’m honestly grateful you’re here. This little show has become a place where I (Zach) get to slow down, reflect, and share what’s been stirring in my heart—something I don’t always get to do elsewhere. When we walked in to record our anniversary episode, Jill had us gathered by the fireplace for a quick photo, and it hit me: this hasn’t just been content; it’s been community. From the guys who showed up early to church and said, “We watch Not Yet Now,” to the young man who drove from Nashville and told me, “Christ didn’t come to get us out of hell; He came to get the hell out of us,” you’ve reminded us why these conversations matter. In this episode, we look back on how the past year has shaped us—how a line from a friend’s wedding made us rethink what it means to “help each other get to heaven,” and how a simple family reset around Matthew 6:33 reminded us that seeking the Kingdom now changes the way we love each other right here, today. We trace Isaiah 35 into Mark 7, seeing that Jesus’ healings weren’t just proofs—they were previews of a world being made new. It’s part theology, part laughter, part honest reflection—a year of learning out loud. We’ve sighed, questioned, laughed, and marveled at what God is doing among us. If these conversations have helped you see Scripture—and your place in it—a little clearer, that’s the win. Here’s to more courage, more grace, and more of His Kingdom showing up right where we live. (And yes… Mark 8 is on deck. Can He do it again?)

What if the most jarring word from Jesus—“dogs”—is actually the doorway to healing and an unshakable Kingdom? In this week’s Not Yet Now episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon start with lighthearted banter about matching outfits, mountain weather, and upcoming weddings—but quickly turn to Mark 7 and one of the most uncomfortable passages in the Gospels: Jesus’ interaction with the Syrophoenician woman. As the team unpacks the text, they trace how Mark intentionally moves from food laws to the tearing down of ethnic and cultural walls. Jesus’ shocking words to this woman—calling her a “dog”—weren’t meant to demean but to reveal, exposing the reality of separation so that grace could bridge the divide. Her humble, desperate reply becomes a living picture of faith: “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table.” From there, the conversation widens into modern implications—how we engage a culture that often feels like “enemy territory,” how to see others through the lens of the Imago Dei, and how Jesus exposes us not to shame us, but to redeem us. The crew explores the freedom that comes when we stop defending ourselves and start receiving grace. They remind listeners that the Church is never under threat, that the Kingdom of God cannot be shaken, and that humility—not hostility—is the posture of those who have tasted the bread of life. It’s a deeply honest conversation about pride, exposure, redemption, and the transforming reality that Jesus reveals to heal, not to humiliate.

Mouse. Baptisms. Mark 7. We kick off with a rogue mouse in the studio (and Josh’s very holy solution), celebrate seven baptisms in one family, and then dive into Jesus’ confrontation with the Pharisees in Mark 7. From lip gloss and mouse traps to the weight of Scripture, the conversation wrestles with why traditions can bless or bind, how the Spirit—not systems—makes us clean, and what real fruit looks like in our families and churches.

“What if Jesus’ miracles in Mark 6 are more than stories—what if they’re glimpses of God’s glory breaking into our world?” In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill Dasher explore the feeding of the 5000, Jesus walking on water as a New Exodus, and theophany moments that reveal His divine nature. The conversation dives into house church community, multi-generational faith, and the disciples’ struggle to grasp the fullness of Christ’s power. Discover how the kingdom of God brings healing, restoration, and overflowing hope as we follow the Spirit’s lead in daily life.

Ever wondered how faith intersects with today's cultural and political landscapes? In this episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, we dive into the complexities of cultural and theological conversations in today's world. Join us as we explore the role of the church and individual Christians in navigating political and social issues, the importance of being led by the Holy Spirit, and the power of truth in transforming lives. We also address listener questions about theology and discuss the impact of historical Christian figures on modern society. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges us to engage with the world around us with faith and conviction.

We pause our regular rhythm to process the heartbreaking murder of Charlie Kirk. With raw honesty and deep sorrow, we reflect on the weight of evil, the fragility of life, and the hope we cling to in Christ’s victory over sin and death. Together we wrestle with the “not yet” of ongoing pain and injustice, while holding fast to the “now” reality that Jesus is King and His kingdom cannot be shaken. Our hearts are with Erica, their children, and the entire family as we mourn, pray, and look to the cross where justice, love, and hope converge.

A wilderness, five thousand hungry people, and a Shepherd who provides. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 6 and the miraculous feeding of the five thousand. More than a story about multiplying bread and fish, this moment reveals the heart of God, the mission of Jesus, and the abundance of the Kingdom breaking into a desolate place. Why does Jesus lead his disciples into the wilderness, a place of scarcity, only to meet them there with overflowing provision? What does this miracle reveal about His compassion, His teaching, and His role as the Good Shepherd? And how does it connect to the Exodus, Ezekiel 34, Psalm 23, and the greater story of God dwelling with His people? The conversation explores: • The “desolate place” as wilderness language, echoing Israel’s journey. • Jesus fulfilling Old Testament prophecies as the true Shepherd of His people. • The abundance of God’s Kingdom breaking through scarcity. • The importance of Jesus’ teaching before the miracle of provision. • How eschatology—our view of the end—shapes how we live in the present. • Why the desert becomes Eden when the King is present. The feeding of the five thousand is not just about physical bread; it’s about the Shepherd who restores, provides, and brings rest to His people. In Christ, scarcity becomes abundance, wilderness becomes green pasture, and every desolate place overflows with life.

Two banquets. Two kingdoms. Two radically different outcomes. In Mark 6, Jesus sends His disciples out with nothing but His authority—calling them to rely completely on God’s provision—while Herod throws a feast that spirals into manipulation, pride, and ultimately the death of John the Baptist. Zach and Jill Dasher unpack this powerful contrast, showing how one kingdom leads to life and mission, while the other ends in corruption and death. Along the way, they trace connections to the Old Testament priesthood, the staff of Moses, and the call for believers today to live as God’s temple, empowered by His Spirit and set apart for His purposes.

Dumpster diving for unexpected treasures—you never know what you’ll find! In this episode, we dive into Mark 6:1-6, exploring Jesus’ rejection by His own people and what it teaches us about faith, doubt, and belonging. Along the way, we share wild stories from chaotic church gatherings like breakfast casseroles and reveal how sincerity beats cynicism in creating genuine connections. These conversations remind us that faith isn’t just a transaction—it’s a relational, transformational journey with God, who is our ultimate prize. Tune in for powerful insights, surprising stories, and a fresh take on life, faith, and miracles.

Did Zach’s failed mullet experiment end with a shaved head or a trip to the hair-plug clinic? In this episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, dive into Mark 5, a chapter packed with healing, faith, and the power of Jesus to bring life out of death. From Jairus’s desperate plea to the bleeding woman’s bold interruption, the crew explores how Jesus meets people in moments of crisis, shows His sovereignty without rigidity, and reminds us that His path is never random but always purposeful. They unpack what it means to have faith in Jesus rather than the faith of Jesus, and why the difference matters when prayers feel unanswered. This conversation touches everything from “big boy miracles” (like raising the dead) to the deeply relational heart of God—who stops for the hurting, who makes the unclean clean, and who invites us to bring our brokenness to Him. Along the way, they wrestle with sovereignty, suffering, unanswered prayers, and the danger of mistaking the signposts of healing for the ultimate destination. Join Zach, Jill, and Brandon for a rich, honest conversation about faith, healing, and hope in the God who sees, knows, and loves His people.

From chains to freedom—imagine the most broken, the most unclean transforming into a powerful testimony of hope and healing. In this compelling episode, we dive into the powerful story of the demon-possessed man from Mark 5. Here, Jesus boldly crosses the sea into Gentile territory, intentionally bringing the Kingdom to those far from God, fulfilling prophecies and extending His grace to the nations. Jill and I just wrapped up a transformative week with amazing kids from a local children’s home, and it struck me: our identity as children of God is where our true power lies. Much like that man who encountered Jesus, our pain can become our superpower. As we explore this remarkable story, we’ll dive into the clash of light and darkness and how Jesus brings freedom to the captive. This isn’t just a random moment; it’s a moment of divine purpose as He reaches out to the unclean and breaks the chains of sin and shame. Join us on this journey from shame to wholeness, embracing our identity as living temples filled with His light. This episode is all about the redemptive power of Jesus and His promise to bring His Kingdom to each of us in a chaotic world. Trust me, you won’t want to miss it!

As political storms rage around us, how can we find calm in the chaos? In this enlightening episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher and Brandon Hudson explore the tempestuous climate of our modern world, where even the simplest aspects of life are swept into the whirlwind of political drama. They delve into the importance of viewing individuals as unique contributors rather than getting lost in the ideological turbulence that seeks to divide us.Against this cultural backdrop, the team emphasizes the necessity of fostering genuine conversations and deepening our relationships, reminding us that true connection transcends judgment. Recalling their church's inception during the tumult of COVID, they draw on the story from Mark 4, where Jesus calms the storm, challenging listeners to reflect on their future aspirations in the midst of uncertainty.They examine the unparalleled authority of Christ and how a deeper understanding of God's character guides us toward authentic faith. Parallels between Jesus and biblical figures like Jonah and Moses emerge, highlighting that true grace comes from God's condescension, not our attempts to decipher Him.Rich with compelling insights, this episode encourages listeners to trust in God's sovereignty during life's storms and to actively seek His presence. Join the conversation as Zach, Jill, and Brandon underscore the significance of suffering as a pathway to release grace into the world, reinforcing that our ultimate promise of peace is found in our relationship with God.Tune in to realize how Jesus remains uncancelable amidst life’s trials, offering us a beacon of hope and the transformative power of faith and community.

Zach and Brandon set the record straight and dig deeper into what really bears fruit. The hosts unpack the idea that all of Scripture—from Moses to Paul to the Gospels—is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and no part should be elevated over another. It’s not about red letters or black letters; it’s all God’s Word. But this episode isn’t just about clarifying a misunderstanding—it’s about shifting the conversation entirely. Zach and Brandon challenge the tribalism in the Church today, where honest disagreement is often met with personal attacks and cancelation. Have we lost our ability to have authentic, grace-filled conversations? They explore the temptation to rely on systems, theology, and frameworks as substitutes for real relationship with Christ. While helpful, these constructs can easily become distractions if they’re not rooted in the living presence of Jesus and the leading of the Spirit. Throughout the conversation, the hosts return again and again to the image of the mustard seed, the wheat, and the scorched earth—reminding us that the Kingdom of God is not something we build or strategize into existence. It’s something God is already doing. We are simply invited in. Our job? Plant. Water. Tend. But God alone gives the growth. They ask, what kind of soil is Christ calling us to be? Sometimes, it’s scorched earth where all of our striving ends—but it’s there the holy seed remains. It's not about what we can build for God, but about yielding to what He is building in us. As they share personal stories of how their own church emerged from devastation—literally from the rubble of a hurricane—Zach and Brandon testify that obedience, not strategy, led to unexpected fruit. In the Kingdom, the way forward is not strength but surrender. Not control, but trust. 💬 “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone.” (John 12)
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Dive deep as the crew unpacks the significance of truly hearing and responding to God’s Word, the importance of disrupting the soil of our hearts, and the transformative power of faith. In this thought-provoking episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, alongside Brandon, engage in a lively discussion about the parallels between Isaiah 6 and the Parable of the Sower from Mark 4. Explore the practical implications of the four types of soil and how they relate to our own spiritual journeys. Are we allowing the cares of the world to choke out the life of the Word in us? How can we cultivate good soil that bears fruit in our lives? With personal anecdotes and biblical insights, the hosts challenge listeners to evaluate their own responsiveness to God’s message. Join us for an enlightening conversation that emphasizes the beauty of inclusion in the Kingdom of God, the necessity of true engagement with faith, and the promise that those who genuinely seek will be transformed. Tune in for practical applications that can help guide you in nurturing a rich, fertile heart ready to receive and act on God’s Word.

Why did Jesus choose to speak in parables? Why not just lay it all out clearly? Join the trio of Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, as they explore the stickiness of stories and how they shape our understanding of the world around us. Jesus’ parables invite us into a deeper relationship with Him—one that transcends mere knowledge. We’ll discuss the importance of heart posture in receiving God’s message, the significance of being the right kind of soil, and how humility unlocks the secrets of His kingdom. Discover how God isn’t arbitrarily excluding people from His grace but rather inviting us into a heartfelt love relationship. We'll also unpack how the promise of God finds fulfillment in the seed of Jesus Christ and explore the open secret of the kingdom: “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Tune in to learn how leaning in with an open heart can transform our lives and help us bear the fruit of love, joy, and peace. Let’s embark on this journey together, seeking the heart of the matter and uncovering the richness of Jesus’ teachings!

Are you dating, considering dating, or parenting someone through dating? This raw and heartfelt episode features Zach and Jill, along with their son Max Dasher and his girlfriend Annabelle, and is definitely worth a listen. Zach and Jill discuss the beauty of marriage and God's design behind it as they unpack the reasons for delaying physical intimacy until you are in a covenant. Jill opens up about a past relationship and the tough decision she had to make, which led her into a season of loneliness. This conversation is anything but surface-level. From Zach’s attempts to deter the two from dating to Max’s confession that he wished they had listened to his father’s advice, this episode is filled with real-life, applicable wisdom from a Christian perspective.

From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over. Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage. If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse.