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Night Owls

John Ellis and Joe Klein

71 episodes

10 hours ago

In this episode of Night Owls, John Ellis and Joe Klein engage with Cade Metz, a technology correspondent for The New York Times, discussing the evolution and implications of artificial intelligence. They explore Metz's journey in AI journalism, the financial investments in AI development, the competition between the US and China in AI capabilities, and the philosophical questions surrounding AI consciousness. The conversation also touches on the political landscape of Silicon Valley, the cha...

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In this episode of Night Owls, John Ellis and Joe Klein engage with Cade Metz, a technology correspondent for The New York Times, discussing the evolution and implications of artificial intelligence. They explore Metz's journey in AI journalism, the financial investments in AI development, the competition between the US and China in AI capabilities, and the philosophical questions surrounding AI consciousness. The conversation also touches on the political landscape of Silicon Valley, the cha...

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Episodes (20/71)

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Night Owls Episode 72

In this episode of Night Owls, John Ellis and Joe Klein engage with Cade Metz, a technology correspondent for The New York Times, discussing the evolution and implications of artificial intelligence. They explore Metz's journey in AI journalism, the financial investments in AI development, the competition between the US and China in AI capabilities, and the philosophical questions surrounding AI consciousness. The conversation also touches on the political landscape of Silicon Valley, the cha...

11 hours ago

39 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 71

In this episode of "Night Owls," hosts John Ellis and Joe Klein discuss the recent election results, highlighting the Democratic Party's significant victories across various states, including Georgia and Pennsylvania. They explore the implications of these results on the political landscape, particularly focusing on the impact of cultural and economic issues. The conversation delves into the role of Donald Trump in the elections, the dynamics within the Republican Party, and the potential fut...

1 week ago

34 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 70

In this episode, John Ellis and Joe Klein discuss the current political landscape, focusing on the endorsement of Andrew Cuomo for mayor of New York, the challenges facing the Democratic Party, and the implications of cultural issues on upcoming elections. They also delve into international topics such as Iran's political situation, the energy crisis related to AI, and the competitive edge of China's manufacturing. The conversation wraps up with insights on tariff policies and their impact on...

3 weeks ago

45 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 69

Podcasts like this one are sometimes called "wide-ranging discussions". Joe and John cover a lot of ground: genomics, AI, reckless leadership, tariffs, military service, freedom of speech, bags of money, private equity, woebegone Democrats, and China's seemingly endless property crisis. They even talk about Kamala Harris's new book. Listen in.

1 month ago

1 hour 2 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 68 (With H.R. McMaster)

Today, on episode 68 of Night Owls, Joe Klein is joined by a very special guest: H.R. McMaster. A graduate of Westpoint, he served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and retains distinguished careers in military leadership, policy, and history. His book Dereliction of Duty, a critical account of the Vietnam war, has become required reading throughout the military. His new book, At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, was released in hardcover in August of last ye...

1 month ago

1 hour 5 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 67

With the return of Night Owls, John Ellis and Joe Klein get back into the swing of things with a sprawling discussion of a number of topics; from the consequences of Israel's war with Hamas, to Russia entering Poland's airspace, to Jeffrey Epstein's money laundering, to the "Clankers" resistance rising up against AI, to public support for a third political party, to declining support for capitalism amongst Democrats and Independents. At the close: Joe's sad assessment of The New York Mets. &n...

2 months ago

51 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 66 (with Marc Dunkelman)

A conversation with Brown University’s Marc Dunkelman who has written an important book: Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress—and how to Bring it Back.” Dunkelman has written an alternative history of the Democratic Party, a 150 year struggle between top-down and bottom-up progressivism that has led to stagnation.

5 months ago

55 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 65 (Daniela Rus)

We interviewed Daniela Rus, Director of the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) at MIT. She talks about the marriage of robotics and AI; what she calls "physical intelligence." It's a fascinating hour.

6 months ago

53 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 64 (Wolfgang Munchau Part 3)

The last part of our interview with the brilliant Wolgang Munchau

6 months ago

35 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 63 (Wolfgang Munchau Part 2)

The 2nd in our series where we interview Wolfgang Munchau

6 months ago

20 minutes

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Episode 61 (with Larry Summers)

Larry Summers on Team Trump's economic policies, the attack on academia and the future of artificial intelligence.

6 months ago

55 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 60

Capitulation Week A major liberal law firm capitulates to Trump pressure. A major Ivy League University capitulates to Trump pressure. Zelensky capitulates to Trump pressure. In Israel, Bibi Netanyahu tries to replicate Trump pressure…and the Dems best response is yesterday’s Bernie singing yesterday’s song. John and Joe revisit last week.

7 months ago

51 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 59 (with Martin Wolf)

A conversation with Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator at the Financial Times, London. We discuss his recent book -- The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism -- and recent events.

8 months ago

1 hour

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Night Owls Episode 58 (With Sen. Tom Cotton)

Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) talks about his new book -- "Seven Things You Can't Say About China" -- and says most of them.

8 months ago

48 minutes

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Night Owls Episode 57

A world in disarray

8 months ago

50 minutes

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Episode 56 (with Al From)

Al From, the founder of the Democratic Leadership Council, talks about how to rebuild the Democratic Party—and how he did it last time.

9 months ago

1 hour 8 minutes

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Inauguration Week in Review! Joe and John on the ascendant Trump, the triumph of the Tech Bros, Dems in disarray, the Lars Anderson Bridge and the whereabouts of Philip K. Howard.

9 months ago

58 minutes

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Episode 54 (with Susan Mulcahy)

Nobody knows the New York Post like Susan Mulcahy. She wrote the book. She talked about it with us.

10 months ago

1 hour 5 minutes

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Episode 53 (with David Barboza Part 4)

Episode Four: A dream assignment: David moves to Shanghai and begins covering China. He goes from "Sock City" to Apple, to the extraordinary changes in China's economy, politics and culture. The final episode covers everything from Wuhan to Taiwan, fentanyl to semiconductors, quantum computing to cyberhacking, to Xi's political standing and how much (and how many of) China's most successful people dislike and distrust Xi.

10 months ago

1 hour

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Episode 52 (with David Barboza Part 3)

Episode Three: The not-a-partnership partnership of one of the world's greatest entrepreneurs and one of the world's richest men is a case study in modern China. David describes the "partnership" that became the subject of an extraordinary report co-produced by The New York Times and David's news magazine, The Wire China.

10 months ago

16 minutes