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Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
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240 episodes
1 week ago
Navigating Change is a platform for understanding the complex and uncertain waters of change in higher education. Each week, Howard Teibel, Pete Wright, and guests dissect issues facing institutions and teams in transition and offer solutions for the most troubling process challenges
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Navigating Change is a platform for understanding the complex and uncertain waters of change in higher education. Each week, Howard Teibel, Pete Wright, and guests dissect issues facing institutions and teams in transition and offer solutions for the most troubling process challenges
Show more...
Education
Business,
Management
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Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Disrupting Ourselves: Making education relevant for students with Howard Teibel, Scott Carlson and Ned Laff

In 1877, the first college "major" was coined at Johns Hopkins. The catalog for that year is a dense read, though short; courses toward the baccalaureate only required two years of study and then—presumably—a job. That catalog has hardened into something else today: a system that prizes credentials over curiosity, standardization over discovery, and completion over connection.

In this episode, we sit down with Ned Laff and Scott Carlson, co-authors of Hacking College, and our own higher education strategist Howard Teibel, to ask a simple but urgent question: what are we really preparing students for? Drawing on decades of experience in academic affairs, journalism, and institutional change, our guests lay out an alternative framework—the “Field of Study”—that puts students back at the center of their education.

We talk about advising as design instead of compliance, about pilot programs that quietly rewire entire universities, and about the faculty and leadership required to shift the system without burning it down. And we hear stories—personal, institutional, and philosophical—of what happens when students reclaim the blank spaces of their education and begin to connect the dots on their own terms.

This is a conversation about possibility. And about how, even in the face of inertia, the path forward is already being built—one desire path at a time.


We explore... 

  • Why the traditional college major no longer matches real-world work
  • The Field of Study framework: structure, stories, and student agency
  • How advising can shift from checklist to compass
  • Institutional inertia and the myth of undecided students
  • Why reform doesn’t have to mean top-down revolution
  • The hidden job market and student-designed experiences
  • What happens when we reintroduce joy, risk, and meaning into higher ed

Links & Resources

  • Hacking College by Ned Laff & Scott Carlson
  • Scott Carlson at The Chronicle of Higher Education
  • Ned Laff at The Chronicle of Higher Education
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3 months ago
48 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Building Financial Resilience Through Culture and Strategy: A Higher Education Case Study

For years, finance in higher education has worked quietly behind the scenes—essential, but rarely seen as a force for change. Budgets got balanced, reports got filed, and institutions moved forward... slowly. But what happens when that model starts to crack? When rising costs outpace tuition revenue, and the math that once worked no longer adds up?

It’s a moment of reckoning—and an opportunity.

In this episode of Navigating Change, Pete Wright is joined by Michael Gower, Andrew Simpson, and Howard Teibel—three leaders who are reimagining what’s possible when finance steps out of the back office and into the strategy room. They’re not just managing numbers; they’re reshaping mindsets.

Together, they explore a bold idea: that financial health isn't just about closing budget gaps—it’s about leadership, influence, and building a future-ready institution. Through the lens of the Rutgers University case study, they reveal how finance can become a catalyst for innovation rather than a barrier to it. They talk about navigating resistance, sparking breakthroughs, and embedding financial thinking into the DNA of decision-making.

So what does it really take to shift from financial survival to sustainability? Can higher ed let go of outdated models before it’s too late?

This isn’t just a conversation about money. It’s about power, persuasion, and the future of higher education. Because the real question isn’t whether universities can afford to change—it’s whether they can afford not to.

Links & Notes

  • Adopting a Financial Strategy
  • Financial Strategy Policy
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7 months ago
52 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Child’s Play: Tapping Workplace Creativity, with Keynote Speaker Kyle Scheele

The opening speaker at the 2025 NBOA Annual Meeting will be Kyle Scheele, who is known for cooking up wild ideas that many people back for laughs and for learning. NBOA President and CEO Jeff Shields discusses with Scheele the process behind some of his outlandish projects and about being creative in the workplace. “I don’t want people to be like me,” said Scheele. “I want them to tap into their own creativity, wherever they may be working.” That might be anything from devising a financial plan to reconsidering the organizational chart. In addition to being a celebrated speaker, Scheele has published four books, one for adults: How To Host a Viking Funeral: The Case for Burning Your Regrets, Chasing Your Crazy Ideas, and Becoming the Person You're Meant to Be, one for teens: We Put A Man On The Moon: Thoughts on Living a Better Story, and two children’s books.

The Net Assets podcast is a partnership between NBOA and Teibel Education Consulting, with hosts NBOA President and CEO Jeff Shields and Teibel Education President Howard Teibel. This show is made possible thanks to the generous support of Community Brands.

You can also read a web article based on an excerpt of this podast episode, published in November 2024.

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10 months ago
28 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
The Language of Action: Moving Beyond Communication Breakdown

This week, Pete Wright and Howard Teibel dive deep into the topic of weak communication practices and their consequences in organizations. Howard, drawing from his extensive experience working with teams and leaders, shares insights on how miscommunication often stems from focusing on passing information rather than producing action and exploring assessments.

The duo discusses five key consequences of weak communication: mistrust and lack of listening, working in isolation, blame-shifting, people not making offers, and building consensus over-commitment. Howard emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between assessments and assertions, encouraging individuals to back up their assessments with evidence. He also highlights the transformative power of making offers, which enables innovation and engagement at all levels of an organization.

Throughout the conversation, Pete and Howard stress that merely knowing these concepts is not enough; embedding these skills into an organization's culture requires practice, repetition, and a willingness to embrace discomfort. They invite listeners to reflect on their own communication practices and consider how adopting these principles could lead to more effective collaboration and accelerated change within their teams.

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1 year ago
48 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Being of Service in Higher Education with WACUBO’s Michael Clune and Lupe Valencia

Being of service. This is at the heart of the roles we play in higher education.

At the 2024 WACUBO Annual Conference at Disneyland in California, leaders and practitioners in administration came together to explore how they can Dream, Lead, and Inspire others to serve the mission of our industry. Lupe Valencia, Deputy Chief Financial Officer and Chief Facilities Officer at the University of Texas at El Paso, recently served as President of WACUBO and just turned the reins over to Michael Clune, who serves as Senior Associate Vice Chancellor and Chief Financial Officer at the University of California San Francisco.

Howard sat down with the two of them at the annual conference to talk about service and what inspires them about being part of this extraordinary association committed to providing professional development and networking opportunities for business officers serving higher education in the West. 

Don't miss the opportunity to consider participating in next year’s Annual Conference, taking place on the Big Island of Hawaii! You won't want to miss this experience!

Learn more and start planning your trip right here!

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1 year ago
13 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
The Teamwork Behind a Turnaround

We are thrilled to present this episode of the Net Assets Podcast, a partnership between NBOA and Teibel Education Consulting, with NBOA President and CEO Jeff Shields and Teibel Education President Howard Teibel.


This episode marks the first in what we hope will become a collection of some of the best and most illuminating interviews dedicated to you, independent school business leaders. As NBOA grows into its new brand identity, we have the great privilege of launching this podcast with a conversation about an institution unafraid of telling the story of what makes them great, a school unburdened by the weight of telling the stories they think the public wants to hear. And who better to share that story than the extraordinary leaders of the Lakefield College School themselves?


Lakefield College School is a coeducational boarding and day school in Lakefield, Ontario, Canada, for students in grades 9 through 12. Today, Jeff and Howard are joined by Anne-Marie Kee, Head of School since 2017, and Tim Rutherford, Associate Head of School and Chief Financial Officer since 2014.


If you've ever wondered what it takes to be authentic in your mission, elevate faculty, staff, and students, and transform enrollment growth along the way, you need to check out this conversation.


This show is made possible thanks to the generous support of Community Brands.


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1 year ago
31 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
NBOA CEO Jeff Shields on Navigating Independent School Challenges and the 2024 NBOA Annual Meeting

This week, Jeff Shields, President and CEO at NBOA, joins Howard Teibel for a conversation on the future of independent schools ahead of the 2024 NBOA Annual Meeting & Business Solutions Showcase. Howard and Jeff speak about issues of integrating telework, the sustainability of post-pandemic innovations, and the critical importance of community and collaboration in sparking transformative ideas.

“Your next best idea is not going to come from walking down the hallway at your own school,” he says, “It will come from being among more than a thousand people in an international community who have walked in your shoes,” he continues, stressing the invaluable benefits of shared experiences and collective wisdom that can be found at the NBOA Annual Meeting.

Jeff offers a sneak peek into what attendees can anticipate at the 2024 NBOA Annual Meeting & Business Solutions Showcase, taking place February 25 – 28 in Atlanta, Georgia. The event promises to be a hub for independent school leaders to converge, share their experiences, and learn from the collective wisdom of the community.

Links & Notes

  • Learn More about the NBOA Annual Meeting
  • NBOA Keynote Speaker Lineup
  • NBOA Deep Dive Sessions
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1 year ago
27 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
WACUBO 2023 Annual Conference: Rising to the Challenge with WACUBO President Brad Baca

As we continue our gradual emergence from a certain hibernation over the last three years, the opportunity to engage with our colleagues is more critical than ever. Brad Bacca, President of Western Colorado University and the Western Association of College and University Business Officers, sits down this week with Howard Teibel as they turn their attention to the upcoming WACUBO Annual Conference coming April 30 to May 3 in Phoenix, Arizona. 

This year's theme is Rising to the Challenge - A call to intentionally engage in what we've learned and face our challenges with renewed resilience.

You can join Howard at the conference in his pre-conference workshop on producing innovative and creative thinking in the business office.

To learn more about this conference or register for the event, visit WACUBO.org.

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2 years ago
22 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
NBOA: 25 Years! A Conversation with President and CEO Jeff Shields
NBOA President and CEO, Jeff Shields, joins Howard Teibel for a conversation on indepenent school business, finance, and operations, all in preparation for the association's 25 Anniversary Celebration in Los Angeles, February 19-22.
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2 years ago
25 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Elevating Our Game at NBOA’s 2022 Annual Meeting
This February, the preeminent meeting for independent school business operations professionals returns in person! This week, NBOA CEO Jeff Shields joins Howard Teibel to talk about the year past and the importance of reengaging your business officer community as we rebuild together.
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3 years ago
30 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Looking Beyond the Enrollment Cliff with Professor Nathan Grawe
Joining Howard Teibel today in conversation is Dr. Nathan Grawe, distinguished teaching professor of the social sciences at Carleton College, where he has served on the faculty since 1999. You might have seen Nathan's work as it relates to the framing of the enrollment cliff, something that's been exacerbated and accelerated in this last year.
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4 years ago
36 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Infusing Innovation into Your Institution: Building Sustainable Change – A Conversation with Howard Teibel and Jeff Shields
Jeff Shields, CEO of the National Business Officers Association and Howard Teibel explore these questions in anticipation of the upcoming February all-virtual NBOA Annual Meeting. The opportunity in this year is to prepare ourselves with the right state of mind – resiliency, ambition for change and living our vision.
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4 years ago
33 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Engagement Across the Academy for Transformational Learning with UCLA's Dr. Christopher Surro
This conversation with UCLA professor Dr. Christopher Surro reflects on an essential topic for all of us: How do we engage students, colleagues, and peers to promote the kind of learning we all need in these times. Whether you're an administrator, Dean, CFO, or Provost, this conversation speaks to the nature of learning and engagement, listening versus telling.
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4 years ago
50 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
The Anchor Mission Playbook: Bringing Higher Purpose to Your Team
Today on the show we bring a demonstration of living a mission. Our guest is Doug Brown, President of UMass Memorial Community Hospitals and Chief Administrative Officer for the UMass Memorial Health Care system. He had a vision for their community - looking in their own backyard and anchoring their institutional mission through local investing, local procurement, and local hiring.
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5 years ago
37 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Discovering the Highest Purpose of Your Organization — It’s not what you think it is
Dr. Robert Quinn and Howard Teibel pick up where they left off in episode 222 of the podcast and now focus on what it looks like to give up control to create something most of us only imagine – an engaged, connected and purpose-focused organization, where leaders put their egos aside and allow their people to step up.
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5 years ago
27 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
An Important Perspective: A Conversation with Rising Senior at Colby College, Heather Jahrling
In this week’s conversation, Colby College senior Heather Jahrling and Howard Teibel explore what worked — and what didn’t — in the transition to learning from home, and what students are looking for as we face the fall.
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5 years ago
32 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
It’s Time to Step Up — A conversation with Dr. Robert Quinn
Today on the show, Howard has a conversation with Dr. Robert Quinn, professor emeritus at the Univeristy of Michigan's Ross School of Business and co-founder for the Center for Positive Organizations. Howard and Robert explore the challenge with getting people to change, as Robert says, "where deep change really needs to begin—with oneself".
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5 years ago
22 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
The Education for Tomorrow Emerging Today with Dr. Nelson Baker
Today, Howard Teibel and Dr. Nelson Baker discuss the kind of education emerging through this COVID era and Dr. Baker’s specific experience overseeing the Professional Education Division at Georgia Tech.
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5 years ago
24 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
What If? Scenario Planning in times of deep change with Bryan Alexander
This week on Navigating Change educator and futurist Bryan Alexander joins us for a conversation on scenario planning in the era of COVID-19.
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5 years ago
41 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Building Strategic Thinkers in Your Organization
Strategic thinking is not linear or delivering on daily work. It’s about peering around corners, across horizons, and uncovering trends that exist beyond the bubble of your institution.
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5 years ago
14 minutes

Navigating Change: The Podcast from Teibel Education
Navigating Change is a platform for understanding the complex and uncertain waters of change in higher education. Each week, Howard Teibel, Pete Wright, and guests dissect issues facing institutions and teams in transition and offer solutions for the most troubling process challenges