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Todays podcast is longer than normal but waiting a fortnight for Part2 was, I thought, too long, so here it is in its entirity.
Melanie has been drawn to helping those in trouble since she was a teenager. Prior to joining NSW Police, she was a volunteer at her local (NSW) Rescue Squad (part of the Volunteer Rescue Association) & after being part of the rescue effort @ the Thredbo Ski Village disaster in 1997,policing was her obvious next step. Mel retired after dealing with the consequences of a silly decision she made but which many of us might consider also, given the same circumstances. Even after Policing, Mel still helps save people in distress through the Good Samaritan App - something Victoria needs desperately.. .. .
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Courtney Herron's father John, shares a story which is unimagineably painful - the senseless murder of his daughter by a man who should never have been out in the community unmonitored, due to his mental health status. Her killer had been released from custody only weeks earlier, with no supervision or monitoring, even though he'd violently attacked another young woman who unlike Courtney, had survived. He was just left to do what he liked, when he liked, disregarding & ignoring reporting requirements by the authorities, with no consequences.
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Amongst other investigations, Kris shares with us her involvement in taskforces which investigated The NSW Backpacker Murders, The North Shore Granny Killer & Erin Patterson's fatal Beef Wellington lunch.
Show Notes:
Kris provides training on Behavioural Threat Assessment and Management topics to government agencies, law enforcement, schools, and businesses, including Preventing Violence through recognition of the Pathway to Targeted Violence, Identifying the Warning Signs for Imminent Violence, Violence Risk Factors, Triaging Violence Risk Cases, Establishing Threat Assessment Teams, and Formulating Personal Safety Plans. She also presents and consults on cases of Stalking, Domestic Violence, Homicide, and in the context of violence prevention Mass Casualty Attacks.
Kris can be reached through her website: www.krisillingsworth.com
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Kris takes us behind the scenes & explains how profiling can & is used to help identify potentially dangerous people & situations. Her expertise in the relatively unknown world of Behavioural Threat Assessment & Management will have you thinking about the importance of identifying situations which may escalate into something none of us want to imagine.
Show Notes:
Kris provides training on Behavioural Threat Assessment and Management topics to government agencies, law enforcement, schools, and businesses, including Preventing Violence through recognition of the Pathway to Targeted Violence, Identifying the Warning Signs for Imminent Violence, Violence Risk Factors, Triaging Violence Risk Cases, Establishing Threat Assessment Teams, and Formulating Personal Safety Plans. She also presents and consults on cases of Stalking, Domestic Violence, Homicide, and in the context of violence prevention Mass Casualty Attacks.
Kris can be reached through her website: www.krisillingsworth.com
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WARNING: CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ASSAULT IS DISCUSSED IN THE FOLLOWING 2 PART PODCAST.
In the next 2 part interview with Mel we discuss her abduction & rape when she was only 9yo & how it took her 41yrs to share the trauma. We do not detail the sexual assault but what she shares is disturbing enough. Mel decided to do some googling in 2019 & what she found shocked her to the core. When she learned the man she'd never given herself permission to think much about was applying for parole after having served 33+ years for brutal sexual assaults & murder in the U.K, she couldn't keep it a secret anymore.
Support Services include;
Lifeline 13 11 14
MensLine Australia 1300 78 99 78
1800 Respect 1800 737 732
Bravehearts 1800 272 831
Blue Knot Helpline 1300 657 380
Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
Kids Helpline 1800 551 800
13 YARN 13 92 76
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Janie's early life was moulded by abuse & feelings of abandonment which resulted in her leaving home at 15. She tried telling those close to her & the authorities, but it seemed no-one would listen or take her seriously. And in one instance, one of those authority figures took advantage of her vulnerabilities. But she never gave up. She is now a fierce protector of those who find themselves in a similar position to her as a young child/teenager & her lived experience gives her an intimate understanding of their struggles.
Support Services include;
Lifeline 13 11 14
Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
Kids Helpline 1800 551 800
13 YARN 13 92 76
1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)
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Nevada's young life was full of chaos & tragedy. His father was an alcoholic, he had siblings die as a result of drugs, a sibling went to jail for murder but surprisingly, amoungst all this, he found an escape due to his love of sport & AFL. His memories of going to the football with his dad revealed another side of his dad he didn't see enough of. Nevada found a way out of his addictions to become a social worker & counsellor with a lived experience which is invaluable.
Support Services include;
Lifeline 13 11 14
Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
Kids Helpline 1800 551 800
13 YARN 13 92 76
1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)
Don't Be That Man 1300 243 413
Mens Referral Service 1300 766 491
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Pls note: This interview is 1hr 20min in length
Leanne experienced violence at 13yo & then battled through multiple sexual assaults, homelessness, addiction, and the overwhelming
weight of hopelessness and helplessness. Yet, against all odds, she found true love, rebuilt her life, and achieved a postgraduate qualification in
mental health. Now a registered counsellor, teacher, and lecturer, Leanne uses her lived experience to help change the mindset of violent male perpetrators with some positive results.
Support Services include;
Lifeline 13 11 14
Beyond Blue 1300 224 636
Kids Helpline 1800 551 800
13 YARN 13 92 76
1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 (incl National Violence, Abuse & Trauma Counselling & Recovery Service)
Don't Be That Man 1300 243 413
Mens Referral Service 1300 766 491
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John Atley is the quintessential country cop. He grew up in Rochester Victoria on a dairy farm, was (and still is) part of a close family, played local footy like a lot of country kids and then his parents sold their farm and purchased a newsagency in Shepparton. John worked in the newsagent & some other short-lived careers, until this green country kid discovered the bright lights of Melbourne.
John joined Victoria Police at 24 and he never knew anything else for nearly 32yrs - until just short of his 55th birthday. His first 10-12 yrs were spent Policing in Melbourne but then an opportunity arose for him to return to his roots in Rochester as a local Policeman. By then he’d met the love of his life Fiona and had a family. Their support of him and his career has never wavered and its one of the main reasons he was able to do what he loved for so long. A Police person’s family have to endure and absorb much of the daily highs & lows and challenges of incidents they are exposed to, however they feel and see the results. Fiona, Ben and Tara are no different.
Being a country cop has many challenges a city cop doesn’t face – they often work one-up (alone) and attend incidents which involve people they know, maybe they grew up with, went to school with …..and yes, even family. And what about their social life? Everywhere they go, they are the local cop and I’d imagine its rare someone wouldn’t ask them something Police related. But opposed to that are the many advantages – of being present for all his kids & family celebrations and significant events.
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John Atley is the quintessential country cop. He grew up in Rochester Victoria on a dairy farm, was (and still is) part of a close family, played local footy like a lot of country kids and then his parents sold their farm and purchased a newsagency in Shepparton. John worked in the newsagent & some other short-lived careers, until this green country kid discovered the bright lights of Melbourne.
John joined Victoria Police at 24 and he never knew anything else for nearly 32yrs - until just short of his 55th birthday. His first 10-12 yrs were spent Policing in Melbourne but then an opportunity arose for him to return to his roots in Rochester as a local Policeman. By then he’d met the love of his life Fiona and had a family. Their support of him and his career has never wavered and its one of the main reasons he was able to do what he loved for so long. A Police person’s family have to endure and absorb much of the daily highs & lows and challenges of incidents they are exposed to, however they feel and see the results. Fiona, Ben and Tara are no different.
Being a country cop has many challenges a city cop doesn’t face – they often work one-up (alone) and attend incidents which involve people they know, maybe they grew up with, went to school with …..and yes, even family. And what about their social life? Everywhere they go, they are the local cop and I’d imagine its rare someone wouldn’t ask them something Police related. But opposed to that are the many advantages – of being present for all his kids & family celebrations and significant events.
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I’ve been contacted a bit of late by some media organisations for my response to the news Police had arrested and charged a 45yo former childcare worker from the Gold Coast with 1623 child abuse offences — including rape, against 87 children in Australia. He had worked in multiple childcare centres in Brisbane and Sydney and another overseas where he’d collected nearly 4000 images and videos he allegedly shared on the dark web.The investigation was a joint investigation between the AFP, Qld Police & the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation.
I thought I might explain a little about the amazing, incredibly difficult but necessary work the ACCCE do, which I’m not sure, but I think they used to be what I knew as JACET – Joint Anti Child Exploitation Team.
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In 1998 Bags (Bagally) woke up and felt like painting – nothing in particular, just buying a brush and painting. And something clicked.
Painting became his passion and Policing began to take a back seat. Bags loved being totally absorbed in what he was painting where he thought of nothing else. Knowing very little about art & its history, Bags educated himself through reading books, listening to arty CD’s and when he eventually retired from Policing, the transition to Painter was smooth sailing.
Bags is now a renowned landscape and seascape painter, is an exhibiting member on the Council of the Victorian Artists Society, the Watercolor Society of Victorian, the Australian Guild of Realist Artists and the Contemporary Art Society & National Vice President and Treasurer of the Australian Society of Marine Artists to name a few.
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