In this conversation, the Government's Special Rapporteur on Racism and Race Equality Dr. Ebun Joseph discusses the increasing prevalence of racism in Ireland, highlighting the shift from individual acts of racism to systemic issues rooted in government policies and societal attitudes. She emphasizes the importance of language in shaping perceptions and the need for comprehensive anti-racism education. Dr. Joseph advocates for representation in academia and the workplace, urging individuals to take action within their circles of influence to foster inclusivity and challenge racism. The conversation underscores the necessity of early education on racism and the role of government in leading by example to create meaningful change.