We discuss the theology and spirituality of Brent Cooper, ritual, symbology, spirituality, metanoia, living in the paradox, distinguishing resonance from orthodoxy, abstractivism vs front line activism, liminal web critiques and dreams, MIP’s approach to digesting left content, steel manning CRT, paradigms and anomalies, hyperobjects, epistemic justice, “seeing” and abstraction, ideological and dunning Kruger awareness, and legitimate meta perspective, anticapitalist, postcapitalist, teaching left groups meta-theory vs working on own terms, tracking events that don’t get covered, holding meta positions to transcend reductionism, listening as metaphor, Hanzi’s work, misunderstanding theories and controversial thinkers/theories, scaling education infrastructure, diverse conceptions of Bildung, and American Bildung and the military industrial complex.