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MediaLand
ABC listen
43 episodes
1 week ago
Media — it's all around us; shaping our worldview, dictating how and what we see, hear and watch. So who are the media players and what do you need to know about how they operate? Each week media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly dissect the stories and the story makers. Real-life succession battles, unfolding crises, what made the front page and why.
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Media — it's all around us; shaping our worldview, dictating how and what we see, hear and watch. So who are the media players and what do you need to know about how they operate? Each week media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly dissect the stories and the story makers. Real-life succession battles, unfolding crises, what made the front page and why.
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MediaLand
First Nations Media: telling our stories
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1 week ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Does democracy die in a news desert?
Regional news in Australia has been in a decline for a while, in quantity at least. Between 2019 and 2024, there were 358 contractions and 174 expansions of news outlets across Australia, that’s a loss of at least 184 outlets. It’s been a struggle and ultimately it's audiences who end up missing out. The Public Interest Journalism Initiative says that as of last year there were at least 29 local government areas who didn’t have any print or digital news at all. What happens when no one is watching?  One of the biggest media companies in the world is up for sale, although not entirely by choice. Warner Brothers Discovery has declared itself open for offers in the United States after receiving "unsolicited interest". Big media buyout season appears to be still on in the international market and could have a big impact for Australian viewers.  And the rolling maul of media announcements for 2026 in Australia continues as networks confirm their line ups and announce their content slates. What is next year going to look and sound like on our screens and speakers?  Guest: Dr T.J. Thomson, Senior Lecturer at RMIT and Australian Research Council DECRA Fellow You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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2 weeks ago
28 minutes 36 seconds

MediaLand
Mitch Churi: Radio killing season kicks off
It's October and that means radio killing season is underway. It's that special time of the year where radio stations and TV channels decide what their next year will look like and make sudden and sometimes shocking changes to their hosting line ups. We've already seen a few quick dispatches this killing season and it's likely to heat up over the next fortnight. Former KIIS FM Nights host Mitch Churi was one of the victims last year and he joins us to discuss the scariest time of year for radio hosts.  Netflix and Spotify have signed a deal this week bringing video podcasts into the stable of the streaming giant. Is video about to kill the podcasting star?  Teens and tech titans are all busy at the moment looking for ways around the impending social media age restrictions. Does the big shift towards age restriction online in December have a chance of working as intended?   Guest: Mitch Churi, Host of The Mitch Churi Chat Show and former KIIS FM radio host  You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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3 weeks ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Mark Humphries: why do we love media moguls?
If you weren’t reading the newspapers in Victoria and Queensland in 1980s you could be forgiven for not knowing the name of fallen media mogul Christopher Skase. It's a problem Mark Humphries is trying to solve with a new podcast from ABC Radio National Rewind - Skase Fall of a Tycoon. We dig into why media personalities are so interesting to Australians when they're at their peak, and decades later. News Corp Australia boss Michael Miller fired some opening shots at the big tech companies this Wednesday at the Melbourne Press Club claiming calls to reform copyright laws are an attempt at a "big steal". Why is copyright becoming such a hot topic and what do Australian writers and creatives stand to lose?  Google has launched in Australia a chatbot-like advanced form of AI search, called "AI Mode". They’re calling a move from “search engine” to “answer engine”. What impact will this have on news websites which have already seen a drop in traffic after AI summaries were introduced on Google a year ago?  Guest: Mark Humphries, comedian and host of Skase: Fall of a Tycoon on ABC Radio National Rewind 
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4 weeks ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Media merger mania!
In a major move in the race for media consolidation Seven West Media and Southern Cross Austereo are proposing a merger which would make them a major broadcast and print player on both sides of the continent. But will shareholders and regulators be as thrilled as the executives and if this does go through what does it mean for the Australian media we consume?  Media regulator ACMA threw a whole book of bus tickets at the Kyle and Jackie O show this week, finding another seven breaches of the Commercial Radio Code  in 2024. While it can barely contain its ire, it hasn't announced any sanctions for KIIS FM or its owner Australian Radio Network yet.  Speaking of ARN, its CEO Ciaran Davis announced this week he'll be stepping aside after sixteen years at the helm of the commercial radio juggernaut. What's next for our big talk and music radio stations?  Guest: Craig Bruce, Co-host of the Game Changers Radio podcast and former Content Director for Southern Cross Austereo  You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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1 month ago
28 minutes 36 seconds

MediaLand
Megan Pustetto: reality TV pulse check
With a new season of Big Brother in the wings, what’s the future for reality TV in Australia? Host of reality TV podcast So Dramatic Megan Pustetto is in to discuss the powerhouse of Australian reality television.  It's late night redemption for Jimmy Kimmel as his late night show returns to ABC, but not the affiliate stations who are hoping for a merger deal approval from the FCC. Is free speech safe on American TV or is life support well and truly on?  And it's time for the MediaLand Book Club! To celebrate the last week of voting for the ABC Radio National Top 100 Books Countdown we browse the bookshelves of Australian Media biography. it would be fair to say Tim has a list... Guest: Megan Pustetto, host of reality TV podcast So Dramatic and Founder and Creative Director of the Kind Regards Network You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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1 month ago
28 minutes 37 seconds

MediaLand
Donald Trump picks fights with ABC & NYT
American President Donald Trump is on a media warpath. He's filed a new defamation lawsuit against the New York Times and had a run in with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's America's Editor John Lyons. That's not even mentioning the demise of Jimmy Kimmel Live. Are local journalists "hurting Australia" by asking questions on the world stage?  How hard is it to make Australian drama and documentaries if you aren't a huge media company? Next Wednesday the 24th of September a new 3 part hybrid drama documentary is launching on SBS and SBS on Demand titled The People vs Robodebt. We look at the peaks and troughs of trying to get local stories made.  How are the new restrictions on youth social media use going to actually work? Well, we're still a bit unclear on that. New government guidelines were released this week ahead of the policy coming into effect in December but the companies the law will apply to are worried the rules aren't clear enough.  The Emmy awards produced some surprise headlines this week and it looks like the age of prestige programming is well and truly back in force.  Guest: Michael Cordell, Creative Director of production company CJZ and Executive Producer of The People Vs Robodebt  You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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1 month ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Billion dollar Murdoch media empire succession drama
A settlement deal has been reached between Rupert Murdoch and his four oldest children, with billions of dollars changing hands. It leaves Lachlan Murdoch firmly in charge but with watered down ownership of News Corporation and Fox.  Can we expect a swing to the right in the Murdoch press or is it business as usual?  How are journalists affected by what they cover and is it getting worse? A landmark new study into journalist trauma is underway looking at the impact of emotional and physical damage on journalists and the communities they cover. Historian Dr Fay Anderson is leading the project interviewing news makers and their subjects.   Do you like lukewarm catering and big LED displays? Well good news, it's upfront season for the big broadcasters in Australia, giving us a flavour of what to expect on our screens next year. Do Tim and Viv meet the competing dress codes?  Guest: Fay Anderson,  Associate Professor and the Program Director of the Master of Journalism at Monash University   You can binge more episodes of the MediaLand podcast with media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you'll find interviews with the big media bosses, the journalists on the ground and the hacks who hunt for the big media scoops.  Please email us at Medialand@abc.net.au if you would like to get in touch, we read them all and love hearing from you! 
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1 month ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

MediaLand
How free is information anyway?
Why is the government trying to further restrict Freedom of Information laws? The proposed changes include the introduction of fees for FOI requests, a 40 hour time cap on processing a request and widening the definition of cabinet papers, which cannot be requested under the transparency law. What impact could these changes have on journalism in Australia?  Does reporting on extreme views fan the flames or is it an important way of understanding the society we live in? Reporting of protest actions last weekend in Australian cities has drawn criticism from all sides.  News broke this week of the death of Australian broadcaster Michael Charlton. He was the first ever famous face on ABC TV,  launching this broadcast onto the airwaves in 1958. How different in investigative journalism on TV now than it was in 1961 when he was the first host on ABC's Four Corners.  Guest: William Summers, freelance journalist and FOI expert 
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2 months ago
28 minutes 36 seconds

MediaLand
TV bosses in fight for new rulebook
Free to air television is at a tipping point as Australians flock to international streamers. The commercial television broadcasters are heading to Canberra next week to lobby the returned government to change the rules they're under. But is it the government's job to support commercial media?  Is one of our biggest audio studios for sale? It depends who you ask. There's a reporting buzz going on around the future of LiSTNER and Triple M owner Southern Cross Austereo and if it might potentially be sold to Nine. What would consolidation of that kind look like for Australian ears?  And are the disruptors becoming what they promised to disrupt? Netflix has started cinematic releases for some of the movies it makes itself. When is a movie studio not a movie studio? We also find out just what exactly a Kpop Demon Hunter is.  Guest Host: Zoe Samios, Business Reporter for the Australian Financial Review  Guest: Bridget Fair, CEO of Free TV Australia 
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2 months ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
ABC boss on the lookout for next local hits
Everyone thinks they know how the ABC should spend its money, but there's only one person at the top of the decision making tree! New (ish) managing Director Hugh Marks is five months into a five year term, is he ready to start making some big calls?  Domestic basketball and international UFC media rights deals mark a new chapter in streamers and broadcasters competing for lucrative sporting titles. How will it hit your wallet?  And rumours are swirling that that Guy Pearce is in talks to play Rupert Murdoch in a new flick about the media mogul's succession plans. Why are we still so fascinated by this modern Shakespearean drama?  Guest Host: Zoe Samios, Business reporter for the Australian Financial Review and former media reporter  Guest: Hugh Marks, Managing Director of the ABC
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2 months ago
28 minutes 37 seconds

MediaLand
The deadliest conflict ever for journalists
More journalists have been killed in Gaza, adding to the highest ever media death toll recorded. Why are journalists being killed in such high numbers and are conflict zones like Gaza and Sudan becoming black holes for news coverage? Former foreign correspondent Peter Greste is adamant that foreign correspondents are necessary, but we're fighting a losing battle.  New "Post and Boast" legislation has got journalists and lawyers in Western Australia worried. The State Government has been debating new law this week which could have a profound effect on freedom of speech.  SBS Managing Director James Taylor has announced he will step down from his role this year in order to head up Ooh Media. it leaves SBS without a chairperson or clear MD at the same time.  And Netflix is getting more expensive, again! Can the streamer justify $28.99 a month to content hungry viewers?   Guest: Professor Peter Greste, Executive Director of the Alliance for Journalists' Freedom, Professor at the University of Queensland and former correspondent for Al Jazeera in the Middle East 
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2 months ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

MediaLand
Print isn't dead yet!
Reports of the death of print newspapers have been exaggerated. The Australian Financial Review is reporting that Nine Entertainment and News Corp are poised to sign a new contract to print newspapers across the country. The Murdochs are so bullish they’re launching a new paper! The California Post. Is there life in the old newshound yet?  The Sydney Harbour Bridge protest drew the attention of Australian media but they covered it in very different ways. Why was it a "bloody disgrace" for some outlets and a "peaceful protest" elsewhere?  Christian O'Connell’s breakfast show on Gold FM is launching nationally in 2026, ARN are claiming that makes it the first national commercial breakfast show. Meanwhile, Howard Stern’s contract in the US is coming to a close. Are we still in the age of the radio megastars?  Guest: Chris Janz, CEO of Capital Brief and former chief digital and publishing officer at Nine
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3 months ago
28 minutes 36 seconds

MediaLand
MediaLand: YouTube banned, Google fights back and is Bondi Rescue shelved?
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3 months ago
28 minutes 5 seconds

MediaLand
Trump vs Murdoch: clash of the moguls
It’s media mayhem in the states as Trump takes on the Murdoch media empire, political machinations are accused of being behind the cancellation of a beloved late night TV show and big media companies are settling all over the place. What does mass media in the states look like under Trump 2.0?  Who is the most family friendly app of them all? Big tech companies are announcing 'family friendly' features ahead of the policy announcement in Australia that could change the game for kids' content.  Over the Tasman, Sky is making moves in the New Zealand media scene. Guest: Eriq Gardner, Legal Author at Puck, former Editor at Large for The Hollywood Reporter 
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3 months ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Are magazines dead?
Are magazines dead? Australia's biggest magazine publisher Are Media is seeking buyers and the future of the publishing industry is up in the air.  The Emmy nominations were released this week and it’s been a bumper crop for highly produced fiction on the big streamers. Have the 'disruptors' become what they once displaced?  The radio wars are losing a key general this year, Southern Cross Austereo announced this week that their long-serving chief content officer Dave Cameron will be calling it quits. And is Lois Lane in violation of journalistic ethics in the new Superman film?  Guest: Marina Go, Independent Director and former magazine editor and publisher 
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3 months ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Media mania at Patterson murder trial
Media mania descended on Morwell this week for the murder trial and verdict of Erin Patterson, are the victims being forgotten?  SBS is celebrating fifty years of broadcasting this year, but is it still meeting its mandate? Managing Director of the Special Broadcasting Service James Taylor is adamant that it is.  Thirteen years on from the prank call that shocked the world, radio host Michael Christian is taking his former employer to court. Over a decade after the call and the death of a UK nurse that followed it, where does the responsibility for damage caused by media lie?  Guest: James Taylor, Managing Director of SBS 
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4 months ago
28 minutes 35 seconds

MediaLand
Was this headline written by AI?
Is AI writing your news? Is it a problem if it does? Artificial intelligence in journalism researcher Dr Phoebe Matich is trying to discover the extent to which AI is being used in our newsrooms, and how journalists and audiences feel about it.  Community radio stations across Australia are fighting for survival against a rising tide of costs and limited funding. The Managing Director of FBI Radio in Sydney Tyson Koh joins us to talk about the station’s efforts to stay on air.  A sports streaming stoush has broken out as Nine secures a new rights deal for the English Premier League.  Some linear TV channels burst back into life in New South Wales and South Australia after a brief period off air as Seven and WIN networks find a way to agree.  Guests: Tyson Koh, Managing Director of FBI Radio and Phoebe Matich, Postdoctoral researcher at the Queensland University of Technology 
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4 months ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

MediaLand
Sorting the real from the fake in a 21st century war
The fog of war is an old term but it has very modern applications. In the conflict between Israel and Iran there have been plenty of false images and videos doing the rounds and it can be tough for foreign media to know what’s accurate. So how do you tell the real from the fake?  Antoinette Lattouf won her employment case against the ABC on Wednesday. Daany Saeed was in court and reflects on the media trial that made ABC the headline rather than the publisher.  And a war of words has erupted this week with the E-Safety Commissioner and YouTube disputing terms as the Government considers whether or not to exempt the platform from the impending Social Media Minimum Age Legislation.  Guest: Maryanne Taouk is a reporter for ABC Verify
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4 months ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

MediaLand
MediaLand Special: Lattouf wins ABC case
In a MediaLand special we dissect the ruling for Antoinette Latouff in her case against the ABC this morning.  This morning the judgement in the case of Antoinette Lattouf vs the Australian Broadcasting Corporation was handed down in the Federal Court of Australia.   Justice Darryl Rangiah ruled that Australian Broadcasting Corporation contravened the Fair Work Act by terminating the employment of the applicant, Antoinette Lattouf, for reasons including that she held a political opinion opposing the Israeli military campaign in Gaza.  Her lawyers had also argued that her national extraction and race had played a role in her termination, however Justice Rangiah ruled the executives involved were not motivated by these factors.  The ABC consistently denied she was unlawfully terminated during the hearing process.  The judge ruled that the ABC must pay Ms Lattouf compensation of $70,000. He also ruled that a further hearing will take place in the future to decide on pecuniary compensation.  Guests: Michael Bradley, Director of Marque Law and media commentator 
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4 months ago
14 minutes 30 seconds

MediaLand
Media — it's all around us; shaping our worldview, dictating how and what we see, hear and watch. So who are the media players and what do you need to know about how they operate? Each week media insiders Tim Burrowes and Vivienne Kelly dissect the stories and the story makers. Real-life succession battles, unfolding crises, what made the front page and why.