This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with his good friend Earl McClellan—a husband, father, pastor, and author—for a powerful conversation about faith, influence, and the battles we all face.
Earl shares about his upbringing, a miraculous healing, and the early days of planting a church. He opens up about the daily fight for our identity in Christ, what it means to pick up your cross again and again, and why vision is a gift that keeps you moving forward.
The conversation dives into spiritual warfare, leadership, and living with gratitude and surrender. Earl reminds us that the armor of God covers every side—because God’s got your back, unless you turn your back.
Earl recently released his first book, Get Your Spirit Back, and this episode will challenge you to stand firm, lead with courage, and walk in the rhythm of God’s grace.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Michael Koulianos — an old friend with a fiery love for Jesus and the founder of Jesus Image.In this conversation we walk down memory lane—preaching together in my first year at Rendezvous, the early days of ministry, and the lessons Michael learned traveling the world. Michael also shares the story of meeting his wife Jessica, planting Jesus Image Church, and stepping into the cost of answering God’s call.At the heart of the conversation is this simple but powerful question: Did your heart burn? It’s the encounter Michael longs for every person to have with Jesus—a heart set ablaze with love for Him.Don’t miss this episode — watch the full conversation now.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Christine Caine. Rich first met Christine 25 years ago, and her ministry has been shaping lives around the world ever since. She leads in many spaces as a communicator and an advocate – particularly A21 and Propel Women
Christine shares her story of adoption, abuse, and the healing power of Jesus. She reminds us our history doesn’t define our destiny, and what Jesus has done for us is greater than what anyone has done to us.
Don’t miss this conversation on redemption and resilience—watch now!
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This week on Mature Me, Rich unpacks the story of Gideon from Judges 6 and reminds us that fear will try to bury your calling — but God sees more in you than you feel in yourself. He calls you mighty before you even fight the battle. He sends you out with the strength you already have.
Whether you've been hiding your gifts, questioning your worth, or waiting until you feel ready, this message will encourage you to step out of the wine press and into the life God has designed for you.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich and DawnCheré host a panel from Pastors Assembly—VOUS Church’s two-day gathering created to equip pastors with practical tools, spiritual refreshment, and renewed vision for the long road of ministry.
They’re joined by Joel Tudman, Dave Niblock, and Mariah McManus Goss for a conversation on the heart and cost of shepherding God’s people. Together, they explore the relational side of calling and the daily disciplines that shape leaders.
The panel dives into pastoring through seasons of grief, finding your voice, wrestling with God, and learning to declare truth over yourself. Wisdom flows through every moment: every pastor needs a pastor, timing is everything, and pastoring often means sitting, waiting, and being open-handed.
This episode is a reminder that leadership in the Kingdom begins with walking closely with Jesus, carrying His heart, and extending the grace you’ve been given.
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On the road to VOUSCon earlier this year, Rich led a staff meeting to celebrate wins, cast vision, and talk about where they’re headed.
In this session, Rich unpacks a leadership principle inspired by Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: the Circle of Concern, the Circle of Influence, and the Circle of Control. He explains how great leaders focus on what they can actually lead, change, and steward—rather than being consumed by what’s out of their hands.
Drawing from Genesis 45, Rich shares three areas every leader must keep under control: attitude, habits, and voice. It’s a reminder that effective leadership starts with leading yourself well.
Catch the full leadership talk and be encouraged to lead—proactively, intentionally, and faithfully.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Dr. Dharius Daniels—pastor, author, and leadership voice—for a powerful breakout conversation recorded live at VOUSCon.
In a room full of leaders, they unpack what it means to lead with longevity—spiritually, emotionally, and biblically. From soul wounds to stewardship, this conversation dives deep into the heart behind lasting leadership.
They explore the tension between being led and being driven—and how your internal health determines your external impact.
“When you’re being led, the divine determines the pace. When you’re being driven, your dysfunction determines the pace.”
This episode is for anyone navigating purpose, pressure, and the path to becoming who God’s called them to be.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Abbie Gamboa—worship leader, songwriter, and member of UPPERROOM.
Abbie’s life is marked by surrender, spontaneity, and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She opens up about learning to lead before she felt ready, navigating the tension between excellence and expression, and how motherhood reshaped her view of worship and leadership.
This conversation is a powerful reminder: God doesn’t always come the same way twice. The greatest offering is your posture, not your performance.
Don’t miss this one—watch the full episode now.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Joe L Barnes—husband, grammy award winning and platinum-selling songwriter, worship leader, and founder of For Every Dreamer.Joe shares the quiet, faithful road behind the songs that have shaped a generation. From hidden seasons of prayer and fasting to the heartbreak that deepened his worship, this conversation explores the weight of calling, the gift of grief, and the miracles we miss when we chase success over presence.They talk about the story behind Promises, the difference between gifts and fruit, and what it really means to lead your family before you lead a crowd.“The promise without Your presence will be a prison.”
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In this episode, Rich sits down with Sadie to talk about fear, calling, and the pressure to perform. From growing up on Duck Dynasty to competing on Dancing with the Stars, Sadie’s journey has been full of public moments—but the real transformation happened in private.She opens up about the fear that followed her into every season, the temptation to live a double life, and the freedom she found when she stopped hiding and embraced confession.They talk about identity, obedience, preaching when you feel unqualified, and the power of being fully known and fully loved.“You’re only as sick as your secrets. Confession is where healing begins.”This episode is a reminder that God doesn’t need perfection—He just asks for surrender.Don’t miss this conversation. Watch the full episode now
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In this episode of Mature Me, Rich sits down with Charles Metcalf—preacher, communicator, and author of the powerful new book God Chose Me—for an honest conversation about identity, insecurity, and the radical grace of being chosen by God.Charles opens up about:His battle with insecurity and impostor syndromeWhy being "chosen" doesn’t mean being "ready"The tension between public calling and private healingHow God often develops us in obscurity before placing us in visibilityLessons from his new book God Chose Me, which explores how God uses brokenness to shape purposeThis conversation is for anyone who has ever felt overlooked, unqualified, or unsure of their worth. Charles reminds us that God doesn’t wait until we’re perfect to use us—He chooses us, even in the middle of our mess.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Bryce Crawford—viral content creator and full-time evangelist—for a powerful conversation recorded during VOUSCON week.
Bryce shares how he went from battling anxiety, depression, and bitterness toward God to boldly preaching the Gospel across Los Angeles and online. At 17, a supernatural encounter with Jesus changed everything. Since then, he’s been on a mission to help others discover their identity in Christ.
They talk about people-pleasing, sanctification, confession, and how true ministry begins in the quiet place—with prayer, fasting, and the fear of the Lord. Bryce also opens up about the cost of obedience, the weight of words, and the process behind his approach.
This episode reminds us that the deepest growth happens in surrender, and healing begins when we bring the truth into the light.
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On the road to VOUSCon, Rich sat down with worship leader and recording artist John Wilds for a powerful conversation about presence, purity, and purpose.
John has led worship around the world—but his story starts far from the stage. Raised by a single mother, he experienced homelessness, church hurt, and deep rejection. At 17, he cried out to God—and one encounter changed everything.
They talk about what it means to truly be led by the Spirit, how to protect your heart when your platform grows, and why everything comes down to your posture before God.
John shares the weight of discipleship, the danger of performance, and how to keep your awe in a world that rewards filters over faith.
“The ultimate goal is not that God uses me—it’s that God has me.”
This episode is a powerful reminder that restoration begins with surrender.
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On this episode of Mature Me: On the Move, Rich sits down with JJ—husband, preacher, and pastor of Journey Church in Orlando—for a conversation about calling, character, and learning to lead through both clarity and cost.JJ doesn’t just talk about faith—he’s lived it.He shares the story of losing his son, planting a church through grief, and how that journey reshaped his understanding of trust, purpose, and the voice of God.They talk through how he prepares to preach, the art of communication, and how creativity and illustration can carry truth in a way people can truly receive it—without ever watering it down.More than anything, JJ reminds us that who we are always speaks louder than what we say.This one’s for the leaders, the pastors, the preachers…for anyone learning to lead while carrying the full weight of the call.Final episode before VOUSCon. 🔗 Don’t miss it.
Less than two weeks from VOUSCon, Mature Me: On The Move continues with bestselling author and leadership coach Jon Gordon.
In this episode, Rich sits down with Jon—a voice who has deeply shaped his leadership journey.
Long before the bestselling books and leadership conferences, Jon was a husband on the verge of losing his marriage. That breaking point led him to Jesus… to daily gratitude walks… and eventually to writing The Energy Bus—a book that was rejected 30 times before becoming a global phenomenon.
Together, they unpack the long road to purpose—what it really takes to lead with impact. From team culture to personal calling, and Jon’s latest release The 7 Commitments of a Great Team… it all comes back to three core values: Love. Serve. Care.
This conversation is a powerful reminder that it’s not about what we can do—but what God can do through us.
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On this episode of Mature Me: On the Move, Rich sits down with Bodie—singer, songwriter, husband, and father of three—for a powerful conversation about identity, gifting, and the tension between platform and presence.Rich dives into Bodie’s journey: from getting expelled in high school to leading in the Church, from saying no to The Voice until God gave the green light, to learning how to stay grounded while on tour.Bodie opens up about pride, pressure, and what it means to humbly partner with heaven.The question that keeps him anchored: Does this offend my spirit… or just my flesh? This one’s for anyone walking the tension between platform and posture. Watch the full episode now 🔗
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Mature Me is on the move.We’re on The Road to VOUSCon—running 400 miles in 40 days from Jacksonville to Miami—serving people, building community, and having conversations along the way.
In our first stop in Duval, Rich sits down in the RV with one of his favorite preachers—and longtime friend—Tim Timberlake, senior pastor of Celebration Church.Tim has been pastoring for 21 years. He’s walked through pain, pastored under pressure, and grew up running from the call of God.
But today, his mission is clear: “All I want is to make sure God is pleased before anything else.”In this episode, Tim and Rich talk about what it means to serve on the move—to be a church not only in the community, but truly for the community.
They unpack spiritual maturity, the cost of consistency, and what it means to preach from a place of presence—not performance.
Tim shares hard-earned wisdom:“If we seek popularity, we forfeit power.”“If the enemy can’t get you to stop, he’ll try to speed you up.”This conversation is for anyone navigating pain, pressure, and the tension of purpose. Don’t miss it.
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This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Chandler Smith—former U.S. Army officer, West Point graduate, and one of the top CrossFit athletes in the world.From wrestling at a national level to leading in the military to ranking 7th in the world at the CrossFit Games, Chandler’s life has been marked by competition. But beyond the accolades is a story of resilience.In this episode, Chandler shares about his upbringing, the discipline it takes to lead, and the moments that tested his identity. From losing a finger to battling depression, he shares how faith, community, and consistency helped him keep showing up.This conversation is a reminder that strength isn’t just physical. It’s shaped through commitment. If you’ve ever wrestled with pressure, purpose, or performance—this episode will meet you there.Watch the full episode now!
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In this episode of Mature Me, Rich sits down with Sean Cannell—CEO of Think Media and a leading voice in digital strategy.
Sean’s been creating videos for over 20 years—before viral content or creator careers were even a thing. What started in a small church has grown into a global media company serving top creators and brands.
They talk about:
— Building with character
— Using AI as a leadership tool
— Stewarding what’s in your hand
— Handling conflict with maturity
Whether you're a full-time content creator, church leader, or just trying to make sense of faith in the scroll-and-swipe era—this episode’s for you.
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In this episode of the Mature Me Podcast, Rich sits down with Philip Anthony Mitchell: husband, father, pastor and a faithful man of God. Philip Anthony is probably no stranger to you all. He leads 2819 Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is a man of God’s word. They unpacked ministry from all angles and the reality of being held to such a high public standard. They unraveled the idea of what success really looks like, the power of the secret place and even leading through hard times.
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