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Masters in Travel
Whitney Shindelar and Brianna Glenn
246 episodes
5 days ago
Join Whitney & Brianna as they explore how successful travel advisors grow travel businesses and what advice do they have for other travel entrepreneurs. Tune in each week for conversations about all things growing and scaling a successful travel business, hearing stories from various industry professionals, unfiltered conversations about business fails and successes, and more. Masters in Travel is for travel advisors who are ready to accelerate their success. Subscribe, rate, share, and tune in each week for advice, insights, and resources to maximize your travel business potential!
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Join Whitney & Brianna as they explore how successful travel advisors grow travel businesses and what advice do they have for other travel entrepreneurs. Tune in each week for conversations about all things growing and scaling a successful travel business, hearing stories from various industry professionals, unfiltered conversations about business fails and successes, and more. Masters in Travel is for travel advisors who are ready to accelerate their success. Subscribe, rate, share, and tune in each week for advice, insights, and resources to maximize your travel business potential!
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Masters in Travel
Ep 242 3 signs you’ve outgrown your business model

Many travel advisors hit a stage where their business is running, clients are happy, and revenue looks strong — but behind the scenes, it still feels harder than it should. In this solo episode, Brianna shares the three clear signs that you’ve outgrown your current business model and offers quick, practical wins to help you step into the next phase of growth. From recognizing when you’re the bottleneck, to patching hidden leaks in your workflows, to aligning your marketing with the business you’re really running, this episode is designed to help you lighten the load and reclaim your role as CEO.

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1 day ago
30 minutes 36 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 241 Building a Team

When your calendar is full but your goals are bigger, something has to change. In this candid conversation, Ali Raymer (Picture This Travel) shares how she scaled from solo advisor to leading a 6-person team—owning mistakes, codifying training, and letting go of control to protect life outside of work. Expect practical frameworks, real client-experience lessons, and permission to build the support you need to grow sustainably.

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1 week ago
54 minutes 1 second

Masters in Travel
Ep 240 Shop Talk: Biz Huddle, AI trends, how to scale without burnout

And we're back with newly recorded content! Picking up with a Shop Talk check in. We unpack the difference between trip operations and business operations, how project tools like Asana and ClickUp can run an entire agency, and why protecting client data with clear roles is non-negotiable. Plus: Brianna shares fresh takeaways from the Biz Huddle conference and strategies to make your content more discoverable in the AI era.

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2 weeks ago
49 minutes 14 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 239 [REPLAY} Client Experience Series: Five areas of business that impact a client's experience

In this second episode of our 4-part client experience series, we explore five top areas of business that impact any client's experience working with you: service offering, aesthetics, communication, systems, and attracting new clients. Do a self-audit on your travel business with this episode, and hear our experiences and advice as you consider these vital parts of your business and how to improve each of them.


*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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3 weeks ago
57 minutes 39 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 238 [REPLAY] Client Experience Series: Branding Experience is Client Experience

Today premiers the first episode of our 4-part Client Experience Series! Join us as we explore all the ins and outs of creating a memorable, signature client experience. This week, we are talking about how your brand experience impacts the client experience more than you may realize. Learn to define your business purpose, gauge a client's expectations, and create memorable memories from the first moment the learn about you to the post-trip check-in.


*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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4 weeks ago
48 minutes 44 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 237 [REPLAY] How to host client events as a marketing strategy

Join Brianna as she chats with Megan Vatnsdal, the passionate entrepreneur behind Onyx and Evergreen Travel, to discuss the ins and outs of attracting new clients and crafting value in our sometimes competitive industry. They explore marketing, but with a twist – how to use events as a way to showcase your value and serve as a catalyst for travel business growth. Plus, they also chat about mentorship, networking, and growing into your entrepreneurial mindset.


*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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1 month ago
47 minutes 26 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 236 [REPLAY] Increase sales in your travel business without that "sales ick"

Love travel and planning it, but hate the sales part? In this episode, Brianna and guest Glenda from The Art of Selling Travel delve into the art of sales and client relations. Glenda shares her seasoned approach to pricing negotiations and reframing rejection, all while maintaining an authentic human connection. She provides invaluable insights on asking the right questions and building rapport that help build connections with clients. Through this candid discussion and personal stories, they unravel the complexities of selling travel experiences, advocating the power of conversation over assumption.


*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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1 month ago
1 hour 1 minute 5 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 235 [REPLAY] How to find the best host agency fit for your travel business

Host agencies...how do you find the right fit for you? Whitney delves into this world with special guest Steph Lee, the founder of Host Agency Reviews. They discuss the importance of transparency in the travel industry, the challenges and opportunities that come with reviewing host agencies, and tips for travel advisors on switching host entities. Steph shares her personal journey from managing a host agency to creating a vital industry resource that helps travel professionals make informed decisions based on honest reviews and comprehensive directories.

Get Brianna's free "Branding Your First Impression" webinar: https://mastersintravel.myflodesk.com/dmyliai2lk

*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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1 month ago
54 minutes 44 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 234 [REPLAY] The secret of specialization and becoming a destination expert

Is there a certain part of the world that tugs at your heart strings? If you want to learn more about developing a travel planning niche, this is the episode for you! Brianna chats with Lori Gold, the travel savant behind Mexperts, who has built an impressive career curating personalized trips in the Mexican Caribbean AND as an expert advisor with resources to share. Lori shares her evolution from a generalist travel agent to a specialized advisor, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and how her love for the Mexican Caribbean fueled her niche expertise. From this discussion, you'll gain insights on the importance of passion in your work, the possibility of becoming an expert that can support other advisors, and how your career can take unexpected turns.

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1 month ago
44 minutes 38 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 233 [REPLAY] How to harness the power of lead magnets and email marketing to grow your business

In this episode of Masters in Travel, Whitney dives into the art of marketing with the experienced Kaytee Fisher, founder of Moxie & Fourth, and guru about all things email marketing for travel advisors. They dissect the strategic layers of marketing: the importance of understanding your target audience, the value of consistency, and tools and tricks for upping engagement. Plus, Kaytee shares her insights on the balance between using various marketing platforms and concentrating on a few that yield the highest ROI. Whether you are just starting as a new advisor and need the basics, or are a seasoned advisor who needs some marketing fine-tuning, this episode has insights for you!

*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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2 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 26 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 232 [REPLAY] How to plan a self-guided FAM trip

In this insightful episode, Brianna and special guest Kate Sullivan peel back the curtain on the concept of self-fam trips in the travel advisory world. From their personal experiences to the nuances of independent hotel site inspections and strategic relationship building, they offer a deep dive into the professional benefits and challenges of self-organizing familiarization trips. Plus, they discuss the intricacies of planning, executing, and capitalizing on these experiences to enhance their service offerings and bolster their expertise in the luxury travel market.

*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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2 months ago
58 minutes 28 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 231 [REPLAY] How to effectively ask for and leverage reviews

On today's episode, Whitney is joined by Jen Lee, VP of Industry Engagement and Support for Travel Planners International, to talk about a valuable asset for any travel business: client reviews. Get tips on how to ask for reviews and maximize their potential for attracting future clients. Whitney and Jen talk about how to prompt clients to leave detailed reviews, how to respond to positive and negative reviews, and how to creatively leverage views on your online presence.


*For the next few weeks, enjoy replays of listener favorite episodes that were previously behind a paywall. We will be back soon with newly-recorded content.

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2 months ago
47 minutes 8 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 230 Shop Talk: Building a Business That Runs Without You [And an important Advisor Accelerator announcement]

In this candid Shop Talk episode, Brianna joins from Costa Rica, where she’s spending a month on a “sabbatical-ish”—a slower pace of work made possible by years of intentional business design. She and Whitney unpack what it really takes to step away from the day-to-day without compromising client experience. They discuss shifting from task-based delegation to outcome-based leadership, building a team culture rooted in ownership and empowerment, and redefining success beyond revenue. Plus, they reflect on the personal and professional growth required to truly let go and why they’ve decided to sunset the Advisor Accelerator after five impactful years.

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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 46 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 229 What every travel advisor should know about representation partners

Representation companies are often misunderstood, but they’re one of the most valuable allies a travel advisor can have. In this episode, Whitney and Natalia Aldacour-La Borie of TL Portfolio demystify the role of representation companies, explain why advisors should rely on them more often, and share how these partnerships elevate client experiences and advisor businesses alike.

Takeaways:

  • How reps act as liaisons between advisors and suppliers and why that connection matters

  • The visibility and consistency in the market that reps provide for suppliers

  • Why advisors should loop in their reps early and often when working with suppliers

  • How reps can support marketing efforts and supplier education

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3 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 34 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 228 How this travel business uses AI to save hours every week

In this episode, Whitney talks with Kaleigh Kirkpatrick and Julie Jamgochian from Shameless Tourist about how they’re reimagining travel advising through AI. Instead of just dabbling, they’ve fully embraced AI tools—from itinerary review bots to inbox systems and trained ChatGPT models that write like them. They discuss what’s working, what’s not quite there yet, and how curiosity fuels their innovation.

Takeaways:

  • Why dedicating team resources to AI research has paid off for their business

  • How ChatGPT is integrated into marketing, emails, and itinerary reviews

  • The tools they’re testing now—from AI concierges to real-time rate trackers

  • How AI can enhance personalization and efficiency without compromising quality

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3 months ago
1 hour 47 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 227 Get support for your travel business: coaching vs. mentoring vs. training

This episode dives into the critical (but often misunderstood) differences between training, coaching, and mentoring in the travel industry. Jeremy Seulich and Whitney unpack why using the wrong term can lead to misaligned expectations, and how understanding each role can help travel advisors find the exact support they need to grow. From the relational roots of mentorship to the goal-driven power of coaching, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone building a career in travel.

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3 months ago
45 minutes 20 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 226 Shop Talk: First class flights & surprise staffing changes

This month’s Shop Talk is a masterclass in both luxury travel and operational resilience. Brianna recaps her epic Emirates first-class experience—secured via a flurry of points and last-minute magic—while Whitney walks us through losing both her employees in five weeks, onboarding overseas hires, and simplifying systems without skipping a beat. If you’re navigating growth, hiring, or unexpected transition, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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3 months ago
56 minutes 50 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 225 On DMCs: A candid conversation with a DMC partner

In this conversation on DMCs, Whitney flips the script and chats with Hicham Mhammedi Alaoui, co-founder of Experience Morocco and The Travel Collection, to shine a light on the DMC side of working with travel advisors. They unpack how DMCs can create unique and memorable experiences without breaking the bank, how global expansion works behind the scenes, and what travel advisors should know to build successful partnerships. Hicham shares candid advice on communication, budgets, and the ever-evolving landscape of destination management, offering invaluable insights for both new and seasoned travel entrepreneurs.

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4 months ago
50 minutes 16 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 224 Tapping into your travel story

Brianna welcomes Sahara Rose Devore, founder of the Travel Coach Network, to discuss the power of using personal stories and deeper purpose in building a thriving travel business. They explore how travel professionals can differentiate themselves in a crowded marketplace by tapping into their personal “why,” connecting more meaningfully with clients, and combining coaching principles with traditional travel advising. Sahara shares about her transformative journey from solo traveler to industry innovator, giving practical tips for business owners seeking more authenticity and alignment in both their marketing and client relationships.

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4 months ago
43 minutes 12 seconds

Masters in Travel
Ep 223 How to share contextual feedback on hotels after returning home

How can you talk about hotels in a way that inspires and informs your clients? Joining Whitney this week is Madeline Steuber to shine a spotlight on the art of hotel and experience recommendations in the travel industry. Fresh from a FAM trip to Cape Town, they discuss the pitfalls of using superlatives (“the best hotel,” “must stay”) without context, emphasizing the importance of thoughtful, client-centered matching. And they dive into differentiating between luxury properties, understanding client priorities, and asking better discovery questions to ensure every traveler is matched with their ideal stay—not just “the best” one.

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4 months ago
42 minutes 12 seconds

Masters in Travel
Join Whitney & Brianna as they explore how successful travel advisors grow travel businesses and what advice do they have for other travel entrepreneurs. Tune in each week for conversations about all things growing and scaling a successful travel business, hearing stories from various industry professionals, unfiltered conversations about business fails and successes, and more. Masters in Travel is for travel advisors who are ready to accelerate their success. Subscribe, rate, share, and tune in each week for advice, insights, and resources to maximize your travel business potential!