E26: Deep dive into DeepScribe with Dr. Dean Dalili.
E25: Deep dive into the PACE program with Dr Rob Schreiber and Eric Patzelt from myPlace Health.
Physicians and other senior-serving professionals trying to operate within the complicated Medicare ecosystem must be constantly learning, as the landscape, rules, tools, and vendors are in constant flux.
We interview eldercare and Medicare industry experts, do deep dives into their companies, services, and experiences, and share their stories and insights with you.
Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni do a deep dive interview with Jonathan Edenbaum, the owner of Eden Homes about the ALF industry.
What is an Assisted Living
What is a Group Home
Small vs large assisted living
Kosher assisted living
Key triggers for transitioning from independent living to assisted living
Standard ratios in assisted living days vs nights
Incontinence as a trigger for assisted living
What patients don't qualify for ALFs
They don't do ALFs, ventilators, certain bed sores (III or IV)
Assessments required for qualifying for ALF
RN needs to reevaluate the resident every 45 days
Some facilities charge more for level of care
Romantic relationships between ALF seniors
State and county unannounced random checks
How to determine a low vs high quality ALF
Do an unannounced visit to check quality
Get family reference
RPM in the ALFs
Zoning requirements for ALFs
HOA issues for ALFs
Risks in an ALF
Marketing ALF services
When an ALF resident gets hospitalized
Eden Homes of Potomac
www.edenhomesofpotomac.com
301-299-0090
Jonathan recommends these finder services:
CarePatrol
FamilyTies
Video version:
https://youtu.be/pJgIa3EWxVA
In this amazing interview with Robert Bullock, a DC-based Elder Law attorney, from The Elder & Disability Law Center, Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni discuss Medicaid Long Term Care coverage. We cover these topics:
What is Medicaid
Medica long term care eligibility
What does Medicaid waiver mean?
How does one qualify for Medicaid
Medical eligibility for Medicaid long term care
Financial eligibility for Medicaid long term care
Most people are in crisis mode when trying to qualify for Medicaid long term care
How are patients assigned to rehab
Medicaid 5 year lookback
Put your assets into an irrevocable trust at least 5 years before you think you made need Medicaid
Why doesn't Medicaid cover ALF
Medicaid long term care payments are like a loan
Medicaid estate recovery
Atlantic article on Medicaid estate recovery
Life care Planning and Management
At what age should everybody talk to an elder law attorney
Video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/EIwz0kv_O1o
Robert's contact information: 202-452-0000
https://www.edlc.com/
on AVVO.com
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Danielle Doberman, MD, MPH, HMDC, is the Clinical Medical Director for Palliative Medicine at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni dive deep into the world of Palliative Care to understand what this commonly misunderstood specialty is all about. We cover the following:
What is palliative care / palliative medicine?
What symptoms does palliative focus on?
How does palliative operate as a team?
Hospital-based vs outpatient palliative care
Palliative care vs hospice
https://www.PrepareForYourCare.org
Who should be a palliative care patient?
Where do most referrals to palliative care come from?
https://getpalliativecare.org
Center to Advance Palliative Care www.capc.org
Interaction and relationship between PCPs and palliative care
Contracting for safety and consent in palliative care
Palliative care pain management
Palliative Sedation (aka Proportional Sedation)
Article: "Best Case Worst Case"
Youtube video "Best Case Worst Case"
Palliative care is not giving up
Palliative care services lose money but they help the hospital because they reduce inpatient length of stay
$3,000 of Part A savings per palliative care patient
Typical patient volumes for palliative care
Youtube version of this interview: https://youtu.be/poYoZ807SWU
Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni interview Steve Ackerman, the owner of Spectrum Medical, and do a deep dive into the world of Durable Medical Equipment (DME).
Introduction to Steve Ackerman and Spectrum Medical
What is Durable Medical Equipment DME?
Not disposable, has to be able to sustain repeated use
Can't be used in the absence is disease or injury
Can't be an environment improvement
Can't be a safety item
Controversy with DME beds
Semi-electric bed
Patients who need frequent immediate change in body position
Different types of DME wheelchairs
What is a seating clinic?
What are Assisted Device Professionals
Choices of wheelchairs
K codes for wheelchairs
Hemi wheelchairs
K3 standard wheelchair is the most ordered wheelchair
Parachute ordering portal
Walkers as DME
Medicare local coverage determination (LCD)
Every equipment has its own LCD
Clinical inference
Secondary market for DME
5-year limit
Indoor vs outdoor use of DME
What is a transport wheelchair?
Fraud and abuse in DME
How PT/OT help with getting DME
Hoarders
DME company doesn't remove old equipment
Implications of having and MA plan for DME
Rollators are not covered
Walkers vs Rollators
How quickly can DME be delivered?
Aging in place
Video version: https://youtu.be/m9dM7PT63M0
Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni interview Michael Hughes, principal at Mitchell-Lowey, LLC, and do a deep dive into Medicare Advantage plans, especially as they relate to supplemental benefits like private duty home care services. We discuss:
What is Medicare Advantage
MA plans offer supplemental benefits
CMS is realizing that SDOH determine health and cost outcomes
Who costs the system the most
Examples of supplemental benefits include things like home care and pest control
How many MA plans are there
SSBCI - special supplemental benefits for the chronically ill
How does an MA plan measure effectiveness of supplemental benefits
How do physicians order supplemental benefits for members
VBID model
Conversion rate from MA plan to private pay
What are the downsides of choosing an MA plan
Why MA plans care about the quality of supplemental benefits
MA plans as a percentage of total Medicare population by state (Link)
Link to Michael Hughes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hughes-7010221/
Video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NrtiqkkHtQ
In this episode we do a deep dive into Hospice with our guest, Cathy Gurson. She teaches us everything we ever wanted to know about Hospice. Here are some of the topics we cover:
How do people get referred to hospice
Hospice is covered 100% by Medicare part A
What does hospice cover
How to get Part B medical care covered while under hospice
Hospice reimbursement model
Hospice per diem
Three levels of hospice care
Pier diem changes at the higher levels of care
For profit vs non-profit hospice
Hospice certificate of need requirements
What questions you should ask about when interviewing a hospice
CHAP certification for hospice
Transitioning - what does transitioning mean in the context of hospice?
How to know when a hospice patient is dying
Does hospice pay for food and nutrition
Tube feeding hospice patients
Measuring mean arm circumference (MAC) as a measure of nutritional decline
Who is making the hospice recertification?
Hospice patient’s relationships with their their PCP and hospice medical director
DNR status and resuscitating hospice patients
Most common reasons somebody leaves hospice status
What is the role of PCPs for patients in hospice status
What a PCP can bill for care plan oversight for a hospice patient
Retroactive hospice status changes
What happens if you don’t requalify for hospice recertification?
Graduating from hospice
Video version: https://youtu.be/qat1HZicdrA
Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni do a deep dive into Alex's frustrations with documentation, billing, coding and his EMR in setting up a solo practice. They discuss the issues that make it nearly impossible for small practices to thrive if they agree to accept health insurance.
Link to Youtube video version: https://youtu.be/kI5QqVA9NAQ
Dr. Amy Schiffman and Dr. Alex Mohseni talk with the team from Fox Rehab about physical therapy, occupational therapy and speech pathology and uncover all the hidden issues, challenges, and secrets of this huge industry. If you are a senior-serving professional or medical provider who orders PT, OT or Speech services for your clients, you need to listen to this episode.
Alex and Amy cover the following topics:
Speech Therapy vs Speech Language Pathologist
In-home PT, OT and speech therapy for geriatric patients
Part A rehab vs Part B rehab
When and why do you flip from Part A therapy/rehab to Part B rehab?
How do you continue to qualify for Part A therapy?
Who decides whether a patient has reached their therapy goal - the ordering provider or therapist?
What does a physical therapist do?
What does an occupational therapist do?
What does a speech therapist do?
PT vs OT vs Speech
Functional independence
Activities of daily living
What does Medicare pay for with Part B PT, OT and Speech Therapy
Two requirements for Medicare to pay for Part B rehab: medical necessity and skilled need
The Therapy Cap for PT and Speech
Part B works on a calendar year basis
How to get an exception to the Therapy Cap for PT, OT and Speech Pathology
Coding and billing PT, OT and SLP encounter CPT codes
What is a low-tech augmentative communication device?
What is the common work file in Medicare rehab?
How often does a physical therapist usually go to a person's home?
What is the patient responsibility or copy for Medicare Part B rehab and physical therapy?
Part B rehab is not home health
Which types of providers refer to Part B rehab the most?
Most common reasons for referral for Part B Rehab all revolve around falls: gait, balance, and weakness
Do not have to be homebound for Part B rehab in the home
Common mistakes when referring to rehab
How to write an order for PT, OT, or speech and what CPT codes to include
Part B rehab does medication reconciliation
How to order DME
What is a 3-in-1 commode
How long does it take to get a hospital bed paid for by Medicare
FoxRehab.org
With COVID-19 causing lots of seniors to be stuck at home and not be able to access the medical care that they need, Alex decides to start his own medical practice to serve this population. Alex chronicles everything he's doing to start this practice and gets Amy's help in figuring out lots of the details and issues. In this episode Alex and Amy discuss Medicare enrollment for individuals, organizations and employee providers, deploying Athenahealth EMR, and getting the first patients. Alex's Medicare telemedicine practice is called Canary Doctor.
Dr. Alex Mohseni and Dr. Amy Schiffman are two Emergency Medicine doctors who are the hosts of MasteringMedicare.net, a podcast helping unearth the secrets of Medicare for healthcare providers and senior-serving professionals.
Video version of episode: https://youtu.be/MeRWrKF6eno
Part 2 of our incredible interview with Andy Diamond, the President of Diamond Medical Labs and Mobile Medical Imaging. In this amazing episode, Andy teaches us everything about how mobile medical imaging is done in nursing homes, rehabs, assisted livings and in patients' homes.
In part 2 we discuss:
Brief summary of mobile labs episode
What sort of equipment do mobile medical imaging labs have in their cars?
How do you get mobile imaging equipment up a flight of stairs?
How much does a mobile digital x-ray machine cost?
How quickly can you get imaging done in a patient's home?
The logistics challenges of home-based medical care
Managing dispatchers for home-based services
How is the logistics of labs more complicated than radiology?
Is there a transportation fee for radiology done in the home?
How do trip fees work when visiting an assisted living or nursing home?
How do you split the trip fee?
What technology is used to manage logistics for home-based care?
Lab tests are not subject to Medicare deductible but imaging is
What could providers do better when ordering labs and radiology?
Training nursing home staff on anatomy
Point Click Care
No trip fee on EKG and ultrasound; trip fee only on x-rays
Do lab and radiology providers need to get patient consent when they visit a nursing home or assisted living?
What is the minimum percent of tests a lab must do in-house?
How many patients per day can a mobile radiology tech perform?
How quickly do labs need to be run?
With COVID-19 causing lots of seniors to be stuck at home and not be able to access the medical care that they need, Alex decides to start his own medical practice to serve this population. Alex chronicles everything he's doing to start this practice and gets Amy's help in figuring out lots of the details and issues. Alex and Amy discuss Medicare enrollment for individuals, organizations and employee providers, choosing an EMR, choosing a telemedicine platform, setting up medical malpractice insurance, planning for NPs and PAs, rules for supervision of NPs and PAs, reimbursement models, and how to figure out how much you are going to get paid.
Dr. Alex Mohseni and Dr. Amy Schiffman are two Emergency Medicine doctors who are the hosts of MasteringMedicare.net, a podcast helping unearth the secrets of Medicare for healthcare providers and senior-serving professionals.
Video version of episode: https://youtu.be/ebZZkHHBy30
Amy and Alex interview Andy Diamond, the President of Diamond Medical Labs and Mobile Medical Imaging. In this amazing episode, Andy teaches us everything about how labs are done in nursing homes, rehabs, assisted livings and in patients' homes.
In part 1 we discuss:
How and why do lab companies have contracts with nursing homes and assisted living facilities?
Part A and Part B billing for labs in the same facility
Figuring out Same and Similar in the lab world
Patient financial responsibility for labs drawn in a nursing home
Lack of centralized database of lab data
Integration with state health information exchange / CRISP
What is a health information exchange?
Why does CRISP charge the lab company to participate?
Nursing home is paying for some lab tests directly
Lab billing denials
Revenue cycle management in the lab world
What are the most common mistakes and issues when nursing homes and assisted livings order labs?
What labs aren't allowed to tell ordering physicians?
Alex thinks the rules for ordering labs are stupid
Trends in lab testing
Molecular testing - why is molecular testing becoming more popular?
Who collects urine samples in nursing homes and homebound patients?
What is the cost of molecular testing and is the denial rate different?
What things to consider other than just the cost of a lab test?
Workflow requirements for molecular testing
PGX testing - what is it and why would you order it?
Cost of PGX testing
Are the results from PGX testing easy to interpret?
Effect of PAMA on labs and lookback for lab payments
Why doctors can't have their own labs
Amy and Alex interview Dr. Howard Haft, the Executive Director of the Maryland Primary Care Program, and Tammy Liu, a Primary Care Transformation Coach. We do a deep dive into the Maryland Primary Care Program and understand how this amazing innovative program is helping physicians provide higher quality more holistic care while providing physicians the tools and resources they need to provide that care in an efficient and low-friction way.
We discuss so many valuable topics in this episode:
Who is Dr. Howard Haft
What is the Maryland Primary Care Program
Maryland All Payer Model
Global Budget Revenue Hospital Payment Model
What do Primary Care Practice Transformation Coaches do
Advanced Alternative Payment Model
Track 1
Track 2
Upfront payments
Is the Maryland Primary Care Program only for Medicare
Carefirst participation in the Maryland Primary Care Program
How much extra can physicians earn from the Maryland Primary Care Program
Average $40,000 per year per physician
Care Transformation Organizations
Administrative requirements of the Primary Care Program
ECQMs
Alex's mind gets blown
Empathy in healthcare
20% Reduction in avoidable admissions
Predicting high risk patients and avoidable admissions
How Maryland is using machine learning to support primary care doctors
Social Determinants of Health services in Maryland
How to order SDOH services from CRISP
How community-based organizations can work with the Maryland Primary Care Program
211 service in Maryland
Global Budget contracts
Maryland Stakeholder Innovation Group
Alex and Amy discuss telemedicine and RPM (remote patient monitoring) in the COVID-19 Era. Medicare has published new rules for telemedicine to help cope with the novel coronavirus epidemic. Medicare also published new rules for RPM that went live Jan 1 of 2020. These rules create valuable opportunities for medical providers, especially with COVID-19 quarantine and isolation requirements.
We discuss:
appreciation for our emergency medicine colleagues
original medicare telemedicine telemedicine requirements
Medicare telemedicine geography requirement
Medicare telemedicine originating site requirement
COVID19 Medicare telemedicine reimbursement updates
HHS won't audit preexisting relationship rule, but what about MACs?
Provider licensure requirements for telemedicine
Fee for service telemedicine billing guide
Home health telemedicine
RPM (Remote Patient Monitoring) COVID19
Connection between real estate tax code and healthcare opportunities
Why is Medicare paying for RPM
How does remote monitoring work
Alex's Concierge Medicine RPM article
How much does RPM pay
Medicare eVisit non-face-to-face encounters
Role of RPM with addressing loneliness in seniors
Some states' Medicaid programs pay for RPM
Kudos to Dr. Blake McKinney from CirrusMD
Telemedicine pictures need to be treated like radiology films
Accuhealth RPM website
Email us at amy@masteringmedicare.net or alex@masteringmedicare.net for our RPM Workbook