In this episode we speak with Joe De Sena an accomplished athlete, leader, and founder and CEO of Spartan. His goal is to get 100 million people off the couch. His new book is called, Extreme Balance: Paradoxical Principle That Make Your a Champion. Life will throw many obstacles in your path, learn how an "unfixed mindset" can truly elevate your game.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Shokz- the industry leader and pioneer in open-ear headphone technology. Use code MTA for a discount!

IQBAR brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000..

AG1 Next Gen -get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order.

Run the London Marathon in 2026 with Sports Tours International USA. They have guaranteed bibs!

The Richmond Marathon on November 15, 2024 -America's Friendliest Marathon!

Extreme Balance -book by Joe De Sena, Ben Askren, and David Sacks, Ph.D.

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We have another international running adventure planed this year and you are invited. We are going to Ireland to run the Dublin Marathon on October 26th 2025. Do you want to go?

We have 6 spots left. Please email us or sign up with this link. Enter code MTA at checkout.

Dates: Friday October 24th to Tuesday October 28th 2025 (3 night or 4 night options)

The Dublin Marathon is the fourth largest marathon in Europe and requires a lottery or charity entry. The lottery has ended but worry not, we have guaranteed race entries through our sponsor Sports Tours International.

The course is relatively flat course with a 7 hour cut-off. It passes through many of Dublin's famous 18th century Georgian streets and the beautiful Phoenix Park, Europe's largest urban park. The race crosses the city, north and south of the river Liffey.

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What is included:


Guaranteed race bibs for up to 2 runners
3-4 nights accommodation at the 4 star Hyatt Centric The Liberties Hotel
Daily complementary breakfast
Welcome reception Friday evening
Shakeout run Saturday morning and escorted trip to the expo.
MTA meet-up later that day
Post-race party for all guests

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The Jamison Extension
The next day, for those who want to stay an extra night, we are visiting the Jamison Distillery where the famous Jameson whiskey is made for a cask draw and tasting. We will have a guided tour of their warehouse and hear all about our ‘Grain to Glass’ process. Then we plan to visit a famous pub or two like the Temple Bar Pub.
 
Spots are limited, so please email us if you are interested or sign up on the Sports Tours website with this link: https://sportstoursinternational.com/event/irish-life-dublin-marathon/

Enter code MTA at checkout to get notified about special events and meetups with Trevor and Angie in Dublin!

Cheers!

In this episode we interview Henry Abbott -sports journalist and author of the book 'Ballistic, The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance'. Plus, Angie and I run down our 7,000 mile road trip across the USA.

In this episode we visit with Olympic runner and Boston Marathon champion Des Linden. Hear about how she has used the words of doubters to her advantage; her shift to ultra and trail running; her thoughts on super shoes and more!

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with a MTA running Coach.

COROS Watches will help you train according to heart rate. Use code MTA and get an additional free watch band with your purchase! Just pick the band you want, add it to your cart, and use code MTA.

Riverbend Ranch -quality beef raised on American Ranches without hormones or antibiotics. Taste the difference for yourself. Use code MTA at checkout to receive $25 off your first order.

Joint Health Plus by Previnex -prevention is the best medicine and you need to protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order!

The Richmond Marathon on November 15, 2024 -America's Friendliest Marathon!

AG1 Next Gen -get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order.

Des Linden Instagram: @des_linden

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In this episode Coach Angie and Coach Erin answer question about heart rate training, running in the heat, warm up drills, hydration, electrolyte sources, strength training, anxiety before long runs, finding time to train, and more! Thank you to everyone who send in a question!

Coach Angie Spencer has run 70 marathons and ultras, including a marathon in every US state.  She is a RRCA and USATF Certified Running Coach and Registered Nurse. Angie loves books and dark chocolate.

Coach Erin Palos is a Certified Running Coach and professional photographer. When she began her running journey it was all she could do to run a mile but she now she is a Boston qualifier, 12X marathoner, ultra runner and Half Ironman finisher. Erin lives in LA and loves to run with her huskies!

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Linis Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with a MTA running Coach.

COROS Watches will help you train according to heart rate. Use code MTA and get an additional free watch band with your purchase! Just pick the band you want, add it to your cart, and use code MTA.

Run the London Marathon in 2026! Preregister now for a travel package with Sports Tours International.

Lagoon Sleep -take their awesome 2 minute sleep quiz to find your match.  Use the code “MTA” for 15% off your first purchase.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.

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In this episode we speak with Ultramarathon Man, Dean Karnazes, about the storied history of the marathon and the land that birthed the legend -Greece. And in the quick tip segment, Coach Angie answers a listener question about how to improve your marathon time as a masters runner.

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Named by TIME magazine as one of the “100 Most Influential People in the World,” Dean Karnazes has pushed his body and mind to inconceivable limits. Among his many accomplishments, he has run 50 marathons, in all 50 US states, in 50 consecutive days. He’s run across Death Valley in the middle of summer, and he’s run a marathon to the South Pole.

On ten separate occasions he’s run a 200-mile relay race solo, racing alongside teams of twelve. His list of competitive achievements include winning the World’s Toughest Footrace, the Badwater Ultramarathon, and winning the 4 Deserts Challenge, racing in the hottest, driest, windiest and coldest places on earth.

A New York Times bestselling author, Dean is a frequent speaker and panelist at many running and sporting events worldwide.




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Mentioned in This Episode

Golden Marathon Tours Athens VIP Package -Dean's tour company

Jet Insoles -uses dynamically flexible carbon fiber that fully activates at ANY pace - generating the same propulsive force that you'd get out of $300 super shoes for a small fraction of the cost.

Lagoon Sleep -take their awesome 2 minute sleep quiz to find your match.  Use the code “MTA” for 15% off your first purchase.

AG1 Next Gen -get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order.

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

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In this episode we talk heart rate training with Dr. Phil Maffetone who is the creator of the MAF Method (180 minus your age) and an internationally recognized researcher in endurance science.

Dr. Phil Maffetone has worked with endurance athletes for more than thirty-five years. He is the author of eighteen books on health and fitness. He is perhaps best known for the Maffetone Method of heart rate training. Some of his clients have included running guru Dr. George Sheehan, famed New Zealand coach Arthur Lydiard, marathon great Grete Waitz, and six-time Hawaii Ironman world champion Mark Allen. Outside the sports arena, Dr. Maffetone has coached a variety of people in the entertainment field, including musicians James Taylor and Johnny Cash, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and producer Rick Rubin.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with a MTA running Coach.

COROS Watches will help you train according to heart rate. Use code MTA and get an additional free watch band with your purchase! Just pick the band you want, add it to your cart, and use code MTA.

Joint Health Plus by Previnex -prevention is the best medicine and you need to protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order!

The Richmond Marathon on November 15, 2024 -America's Friendliest Marathon!

IQMIX -a zero-sugar drink mix from IQBAR that hydrates, boosts your mood and promotes mental clarity. Text MTA to 64000 to get twenty percent off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply.

Dr. Maffetone's two websites:
https://philmaffetone.com
https://maffetonemusic.com/home

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In this episode we speak with Alex Hutchinson author of the book 'The Explorer’s Gene -Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map'.

Alex Hutchinson is the author of the 2018 New York Times bestseller 'Endure' and is a science journalist and Outside magazine’s longtime Sweat Science columnist. He has a PhD in Physics from Cambridge University and a MS in Journalism from Columbia. He was a long-distance runner for the Canadian national team and lives in Toronto.

His new book The Explorer’s Gene refutes the myth that the age of exploration is dead. Instead, the itch to discover new things persists in all of us, expressed not just on the slopes of Everest but in the ways we work, play, and live. The Explorer’s Gene combines stories of exploration with cutting-edge insights from behavioral psychology and neuroscience, making a powerful case that our lives are better—more productive, more meaningful, and more fun—when we break our habits and chart a new path.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with a MTA running Coach.

AG1 Next Gen -get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order.

MetPro Nutrition Coaching -speak with a Metabolic Expert about your goals and get actionable steps toward fueling for performance, losing weight, adding muscle, or changing your body composition. Get $500 off their concierge coaching.

IQMIX -is a zero-sugar drink mix from IQBAR that hydrates, boosts your mood and promotes mental clarity. Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.

The Greenbrier River Trail Marathon and Half Marathon in beautiful Pocahontas County, West Virginia. With this being one of the few WV marathons, it’s great for those 50-staters out there. 

The Explorer's Gene -book by Alex Hutchinson

Alex Hutchinson's website

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In this episode we bring you a conversation with Robin Walters -who just completed the Boston Marathon. This is a story about overcoming an acute injury, training through winter conditions, and what it's like to accomplish a goal many years in the making!

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Run Coaching. Work with a MTA running Coach.

Run the London Marathon in 2026! Preregister now for a travel package with Sports Tours International.

UCAN -we have been fueling with UCAN since 2013. As a listener to the podcast you can try UCAN Edge gels for FREE! all you pay is the cost of shipping. You can also get 20% off anything in their store with the code MTA.

AG1 Next Gen -get a FREE bottle of AG D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, AND 5 of the upgraded AG1 travel packs with your first order.

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In this episode we play an interview we did on the 'I’ll Have Another Podcast' with Lyndsey Hein. Lyndsey invited us to participate in her Behind the Mic series -where she interviews fellow podcasters in the running space. Hear us discuss podcasting, parenting, travel, books, our favorite marathons, and more!

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Lindsey Hein lives in North Carolina with her husband of 15 years, Glenn and their four boys. She’s the founder of the podcast network SandyBoy Productions and host of I’ll Have Another and Why is Everyone Yelling? with Lindsey Hein. Lindsey has run 17 marathons and one half ironman. She loves podcasting, hosting live interviews and coaching runners!


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Mentioned in This Episode
Work with a Running Coach in 2025 or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

Joint Health Plus! -Protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order.

MetPro Nutrition Coaching -speak with a Metabolic Expert about your goals and get actionable steps toward fueling for performance, losing weight, adding muscle, or changing your body composition. Get $500 off their concierge coaching.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.
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In this episode we speak with Brad Culp -author of the book The Norwegian Method. Plus, Coach Angie discusses the value of Zone 2 Training.

Brad Culp is a sports journalist who has contributed to many triathlon publications. Culp has finished more than 100 races (including 15 marathons). He currently resides in Illinois with his wife and two children.

His new book is titled The Norwegian Method-The Culture, Science & Humans Behind the Groundbreaking Approach to Elite Endurance Performance.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Lagoon Sleep -take their awesome 2 minute sleep quiz to find your match.  Use the code “MTA” for 15% off your first purchase.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.
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In this episode we celebrate the 15 Year Anniversary of the Podcast! Listeners call in to tell us what running marathons and half marathons has taught them about life.

Runners from all over the world shared their inspiring stories, mantras, and advice. Thanks to everyone who sent in a voicemail, and THANK YOU ALL for supporting the podcast for the last 15 years!

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Sponsor Links
Drury Hotels -our longest running sponsor! They have over 150 locations in 25 states; free food and drinks (the 530 kickback), clean rooms, great locations, indoor/outdoor pools, popcorn, reasonable rates. Get 10% off your stay with our link!

UCAN -we have been fueling with UCAN since 2013. As a listener to the podcast you can try UCAN Edge gels for FREE! all you pay is the cost of shipping. You can also get 20% off anything in their store with the code MTA.

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.
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In this podcast episode we talk about why you should run the World Marathon Majors; and how to get into the Berlin, Chicago, and NYC Marathons.

Plus we share a special announcement about a trip we are hosting to Dublin, Ireland!

The Abbott World Marathon Majors is the most prestigious marathon series in the world, hosting over 250,000 runners per year, and millions applying for a bib. There are basically 4 ways to get into each marathon as a non-elite runner.

Enter the lottery
Run for charity
Qualify with a fast time
Travel with a tour company

 
But as you will hear, there are many exceptions, nuances, and backdoor ways to get into the Majors.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Sports Tours International USA -Join us at the Dublin Marathon! Get a race bib and 3 nights at a 4-start hotel. Use code MTA when you book your spot.

Joint Health Plus! -Protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

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Here's your guide to getting a race bib for the Tokyo, Boston, London, and Sydney Marathons! Our next episode will focus on Berlin, Chicago, and New York.

The Abbott World Marathon Majors is the most prestigious marathon series in the world, hosting over 250,000 runners per year, and millions applying for a bib. Many runners in our audience are working toward their Six Star Medal (Angie only needs 1 more star).

There are basically 4 ways to get into each marathon as a non-elite runner.

Enter the lottery
Run for charity
Qualify with a fast time
Travel with a tour company

 
But as you will hear, there are many exceptions, nuances, and backdoor ways to get into the Majors. We hope you enjoy this episode!



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Links Mentioned in This Episode
MetPro + MTA Coaching Deal. Special offer we've never done before limited to the first 30 people, signup for MetPro Nutrition coaching will also get MTA Run coaching included at no additional cost. $200 a month savings.

Lagoon Sleep -take their awesome 2 minute sleep quiz to find your match.  Use the code “MTA” for 15% off your first purchase.

Sports Tours International USA -our top recommended marathon tour company for runners in the USA, UK, France, and Ireland.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

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In this episode we speak with Matt Fitzgerald author of the book 'How to Run the Perfect Race -Better Racing Through Better Pacing'. Matt will explain why many runners struggle with pacing in the marathon. We also take a look at the concept of "Work Rate"; and the central governor theory of fatigue versus Brehm's motivational intensity theory.


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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Joint Health Plus! -Protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order.

UCAN -try UCAN Edge gels for FREE all you pay is the cost of shipping. You can also get 20% off anything in their store with the code "MTA".

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

Book: How to Run the Perfect Race -Better Racing Through Better Pacing

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Matt Fitzgerald is a coach, nutritionist, and author of books on endurance sports including Pain & Performance, 80/20 Running, How Bad do you Want it and his most recent book “How to Run the Perfect Race- Better Racing Through Better Pacing.” He is cofounder of 80/20 Endurance and a lifelong endurance athlete.

In this episode we are joined by Coach Amber from MetPro to tackle nutrition questions sent in by listeners. We discuss meal timing, hydration, protein sources, menopause, how to balance performance and fat loss goals, managing cravings, fueling for an ultra, and we even dive into the current buzz around GLP1 medications.

Whether you're training for a marathon or an ultra, you'll get practical nutrition advice to help optimize your running. Thanks to everyone who sent in a question!



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Links Mentioned in This Episode
MetPro + MTA Coaching Deal. Special offer we've never done before limited to the first 30 people, signup for MetPro Nutrition coaching will also get MTA Run coaching included at no additional cost. $200 a month savings.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

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Coach Amber Velasquez has a Master of Health Sciences and is a Licensed and Registered Dietitian and a certified personal trainer. She’s a coach at MetPro and loves all things nutrition & fitness.

When we had her on the podcast last year it was our most listened to episode in 2024 according to Spotify.

In this episode we interview a long-time member of our community named Debbie Gelber who has reinvented herself through running. A self-described late bloomer to the sport, she stepped on the treadmill at age 40 with a goal of losing weight, over a decade later she’s training for her 51st marathon!

Debbie Gelber is a Fine Arts Instructor at South Plains College in Levelland, Texas. She is currently training for the Tokyo Marathon working with MTA Coach Carrie.



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Links Mentioned in this Episode
Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

The Drury Hotels -they have free breakfast and free food and drinks in the evening -something they call the 5:30 kick back. They have more than 150 locations in 26 states. Use our link to save 10% on your stay.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text “MTA” to 64000.

Debbie Gelber's website: https://debrunsto50.wordpress.com

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In this episode we interview Dakotah Popehn who finished as the first American woman at the Olympic Marathon in Paris!

There was a time when she couldn’t fathom running 26.2, and actually DNF’d at her debut marathon. But she didn’t give up! Listen as Dakotah shares the lessons she’s learned along the way, tips on building mental strength, and the importance of getting good sleep during training.



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Sponsor Links
Lagoon Sleep -take their awesome 2 minute sleep quiz to find your match.  Use the code “MTA” for 15% off your first purchase.

UCAN -try UCAN Edge gels for FREE all you pay is the cost of shipping. You can also get 20% off anything in their store with the code "MTA".

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

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Most people first heard of Dakotah Lindwurm at the 2024 Olympic Trails. She has since gotten married and goes by Dakotah Popehn. Dakotah is a 29 year old elite runner from Minnesota who has raced everything from the mile to the marathon. She won the Grandma’s Marathon in 2021 and 2022; finished 3rd at the US Olympic Trials in 2024; and finished as the first American female at the Paris Olympic Marathon with a time of 2:26:44. She lives with her husband in the Twin Cities.

In this episode we speak with Jeff Horowitz author of the book 'Think Like a Runner -Understanding Why We Run and How to Do It Better'. Learn about the importance of "finding your why"; the difference between chronological age versus training age; and recommended training changes for older runners.

Formerly an attorney, Jeff quit law to pursue his passion for endurance sports. He currently teaches running at the George Washington University and has completed over 200 marathons and ultras across six continents.

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Links Mentioned in This Episode
Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.

Joint Health Plus! -Protect your joint cartilage from breakdown. Use code MTA for 15% off your first order.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text "MTA" to 64000.

Think Like a Runner book.

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In this episode we speak with Alistair Crompton, a trail guide with Run the Alps, about his latest adventures and what it’s like to run in the Swiss Alps. Plus, Coach Angie shares tips on training for an ultramarathon.

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Switzerland Running Retreat with Angie, Trevor, and Run the Alps.

The Drury Hotels -they have free breakfast and free food and drinks in the evening -something they call the 5:30 kick back. They have more than 150 locations in 26 states. Use our link to save 10% on your stay.

AG1 -It’s the perfect time to start a new healthy habit and AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box.

IQBAR -brain and body-boosting bars, hydration mixes, and mushroom coffees. Their Ultimate Sampler Pack includes all three! Get 20% off plus FREE shipping. Just text "MTA" to 64000.

Speak with a Running Coach about one-on-one coaching or join the Academy and use a MTA training plan.
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Alistair Crompton is a mountain running & trekking guide, yoga teacher, and vegan chef based in Chamonix, France. He is originally from the UK when he’s not running he enjoys skiing and paragliding. Alistair will be one of our guides this year on our Running Retreat in Switzerland🇨🇭 with @RunTheAlps