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localfirst.fm
localfirst.fm
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2 months ago
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A podcast about local-first software development
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#23 – Sujay Jayakar: Dropbox, Convex

This episode's guest is Sujay Jayakar, co-founder of Convex and early engineer at Dropbox. In this conversation, Sujay shares the story of how the sync engine powering Dropbox was initially built and later redesigned to address all sorts of distributed systems problems 

Mentioned in podcast:

  • Sujay Jayakar: X + GitHub + Bluesky + Linkedin
  • Convex
  • Dropbox
  • Tech Talk on Dropbox’s Architecture
  • Rewriting the heart of our sync engine
  • Testing sync at Dropbox
  • How Convex Works
  • A Map of Sync
  • An Object Sync Engine for Local-first Apps

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to Jazz for supporting the podcast.

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1 week ago
1 hour 8 minutes

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#22 – Paul Butler: Jamsocket

The guest of this episodeis Paul Butler, founder of Jamsocket and creator of the Y-Sweet project. This conversation will delve into building vs buying a sync engine and explore the various projects behind Jamsocket including Plane, Y-Sweet and ForeverVM.

Mentioned in podcast:

  • Paul Butler: Website + X
  • Jamsocket
  • Learn Yjs
  • Y-Sweet
  • Plane
  • ForeverVM
  • You might not need a CRDT
  • AI as a Player in Multiplayer
  • Browsertech Digest Trip Report: Local First Conf
  • Browsertech Digest: Encrypting offline storage for local-first apps
  • Browsertech Digest: Figma is a File Editor
  • The WebAssembly App Gap


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to ElectricSQL and Jazz for supporting the podcast.

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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes

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#21 – Seph Gentle: Google Wave, eg-walker, creativity, AI

The guest of this episode is Seph Gentle, a prolific software researcher who is behind projects such as the new eg-walker paper and ShareJS, one of the oldest local-first open source projects. Before, Seph also co-created Google Wave over 10 years ago which will be explored in-depth in this episode.

Mentioned in podcast:

  • Seph Gentle: Website + X
  • CRDTs are the future
  • Collaborative Text Editing with Eg-Walker
  • Hammock Driven Development - Rich Hickey


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to ElectricSQL for supporting the podcast.

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1 month ago
1 hour 29 minutes

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#20 – Adam Wulf: Muse

The guest of this episode is Adam Wulf, the engineer and solopreneur behind Muse, a local-first canvas-based tool for thought. This conversation will get trough the evolution of Muse as a product, company and people who made it, reflecting on the joys and struggles of building software as a team of one. Later, the conversation will dive deep into topics such as analytics and distribution of a local-first app. 

Mentioned in podcast:

  • Adam Wulf: Website + Bluesky + Mastodon + GitHub
  • Muse + Bluesky + X
  •  Muse Discord community 
  •  Download Muse
  • Setapp
  • Muse Setapp launch
  • Rebuilt iPhone app 
  • Adam Wiggins' Retrospective
  • Muse Sync at Programming Local First Workshop – ECOOP’22


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to Convex and ElectriSQL for supporting the podcast.

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2 months ago
1 hour 33 minutes

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#19 – Brooklyn Zelenka: UCAN, Beehive, Beelay

The guest of this episode is Brooklyn Zelenka, a local-first researcher and creator of various projects including UCAN and Beehive. This conversation, will go deep on authorization and access control in a decentralized, local-first environment and explore this topic by learning about UCAN and Beehive. Later, the conversation will also diving into Beelay, a new generic sync server implementation developed by Ink & Switch. 

Mentioned in podcast:

  • Brooklyn Zelenka: Website + GitHub + Bluesky + Mastodon
  • Messaging Layer Security (MLS)
  • Messaging layer security: Encrypting a group chat
  • TreeKEM
  • Group Messaging for Secure Asynchronous Collaboration by Matthew A. Weidner
  • Beehive lab notebook
  • UCAN Working Group
  • UCAN - Be in control of your auth: Brooklyn Zelenka (Local-First Conf)
  • Automerge
  • WNFS Working Group
  • Robust Composition: Towards a Unified Approach to Access Control and Concurrency Control by Mark Samuel Miller
  • SPKI Certificate Theory
  • Edwards-Curve Digital Signature Algorithm (EdDSA)
  • Comparison of Symmetric Encryption Methods


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to Convex and ElectriSQL for supporting the podcast.

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3 months ago
1 hour 11 minutes

localfirst.fm
Special episode: Apps vs Files with Gordon Brander, Peter van Hardenberg & Jess Martin.

This is a special episode which was recorded as a Twitter space conversation between Gordon Brander, Peter Van Hardenberg, and Jess Martin.
This conversation explores the ideas and trade offs of apps versus files.

Mentioned in podcast

  • Gordon Brander 
  • Peter van Hardenberg
  • Jess Martin


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
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3 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes

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#18 – James Arthur: ElectricSQL, read-path syncing, PGLite

The guest of this episode is James Arthur, founder and CEO of Electric SQL, a Postgres-centric sync engine for local-first apps. This conversation will dive deep into how Electric works and explore its design decisions such as read-path syncing and using HTTP as the network layer to improve scalability. Towards the end we are also covering PGLite, a new Postgres in WASM project by Electric. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • James Arthur: x.com/thruflo / bsky.app/profile/thruflo
  • ElectricSQL
  • ElectricSQL - Quickstart
  • ElectricSQL - Github
  • Discord - ElectricSQL
  • PGlite
  • PGlite - Github
  • database.build
  • trigger.dev


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to PowerSync and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

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#17 – Kyle Simpson: Local-first identity

The guest of this episode is Kyle Simpson, a prolific JavaScript engineer and author of the book You Don’t Know JS. Over the past years, Kyle has been researching user identity and encryption in a local-first context which we explore in depth in this episode. This conversation will dive into the story that led Kyle to local-first including what he calls Web 2.5 and Zero Servers.

Editor's Note: when Kyle speaks about SilentJS, is actually referring to QuiteJS (link below)

Mentioned in podcast

  • Kyle Simpson: x.com/getifyX / me.getify.com
  • Local-peer-to-peer
  • Webauthn-local-client
  • Local-data-lock
  • Local-vault
  • Storage
  • Qr-data-sync
  • Vella.ai
  • Socket Supply
  • You-Dont-Know-JS
  • LoFi.so
  • QuietJS

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to PowerSync and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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5 months ago
1 hour 32 minutes

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#16 – Anselm Eickhoff: Jazz

The guest of this episode is Anselm Eickhoff, creator of Jazz and founder of Garden Computing. This conversation will dive deep into Jazz to learn how it works and which use cases it’s a good fit for by exploring various apps already built on top of Jazz. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • Anselm Eickhoff: x.com/anselm_io / anselm.io
  • jazz.tools
  • Garden Computing

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to PowerSync and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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6 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes

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#15 – Tuomas Artman: Linear, sync engines, rethought startup MVP

The guest of this episode is Tuomas Artman, co-founder and CTO of Linear. Prior to Linear, Tuomas had already built sync engines for over a decade at companies like Groupon and Uber. This conversation will explore how local-first and software quality was crucial for Linear’s success and how the concept of a startup MVP should be rethought. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • Tuomas Artman: x.com/artman / github.com/artman
  • Linear
  • Scaling the Linear Sync Engine
  • Rethinking the startup Mvp: Building a competitive product
  • Unexpected benefits of going local-first - Tuomas Artman (Local-First Conf)

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to PowerSync and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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6 months ago
1 hour 1 minute

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#14 – Matthew Weidner: Architectures for Central Server Collaboration

The guest of this episode is Matthew Weidner, a computer science PhD student at Carnegie Mellon University focussing on distributed systems and local-first software. Matthew has recently published an extensive blog post about architectures for central server collaboration which is explored in depth in this conversation comparing different approaches such as CRDTs and event sourcing.

Mentioned in podcast

  • Matthew Weidner: x.com/MatthewWeidner3 / mattweidner.com
  • Architectures for Central Server Collaboration
  • TRVE Data project
  • Shapiro 2011 paper
  • Carlos Baquero papers
  • CRDT paper (the "very theoretical" one)
  • Collabs: Docs / Paper
  • Jupiter collaboration system from the 90s
  • Building on Quicksand
  • Immutability Changes Everything
  • Ink & Switch's Upwelling
  • list-positions
  • Fractional indexing

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to Expo and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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7 months ago
57 minutes

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#13 – Maggie Appleton: Barefoot Developers, AI, end-user programming

The guest of this episode is Maggie Appleton, a designer, anthropologist and developer who has recently explored the world of local-first by giving the closing keynote at the last local-first conf. This conversation will dive into the topics of her talk including home cooked software, the idea behind barefoot developers and how AI complements local-first software development. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • Maggie Appleton: x.com/Mappletons + maggieappleton.com
  • Home-cooked Software and Barefoot Programmers: Maggie Appleton (Local-First Conf)
  • Home-Cooked Software and Barefoot Developers

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm

Thank you to Expo and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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8 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

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#12 – James Pearce: Tinybase

The guest of this episode is James Pearce, the author of Tinybase, a reactive data store library for local-first apps. This conversation will explore how Tinybase works including its custom query system, the various persistence and syncing integrations as well as James’ plans for the future. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • James Pearce: x.com/jamespearce + scoutsailing.com
  • TinyBase
  • TinyHub

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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9 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes

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#11 – Adam Wiggins: Local-first Conf 2024

The guest of this episode is Adam Wiggins, who is the founder of Heroku and one of the co-authors of the local-first essay by Ink & Switch. As Adam is also a co-organizer of the first local-first conference, this conversation will reflect on the event, share our learnings and discuss a couple of key topics such as a new definition of local-first software. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • Adam Wiggins: x.com/_adamwiggins_ + adamwiggins.com
  • Browsertech Digest Trip Report: Local First Conf
  • Alice and Bob in wonderland. Bootstrapping identity and authority in a world without servers.


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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9 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

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#10 – Matt Wonlaw: cr-sqlite, syncing strategies and incremental view maintenance

The guest of this episode is Matt Wonlaw, a prolific local-first tool builder who’s behind projects such as Vlcn, cr-sqlite and Materialite. Most recently Matt also joined Rocicorp to work on their new product. This conversation will go deep on his projects covering CRDTs, SQLite and incremental view maintenance.

Mentioned in podcast

  • Matt Wonlaw: x.com/tantaman + github.com/tantaman
  • RemoteStorage
  • ownCloud
  • The Virtual Table Mechanism Of SQLite
  • Towards a General Database Management System of Conflict-Free Replicated Relations
  • Materialite benchmark

Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and Rocicorp for supporting the podcast.

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10 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

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#9 – Dax Raad: Local-First SaaS

The guest of this episode is Dax Raad, who is using local-first in multiple projects including the serverless deployment tool SST.dev, a healthcare app and an upcoming personal finance app. This conversation will explore how local-first simplifies app development, the UX and data patterns he used on and how self-hosting could empower local-first apps.


Mentioned in podcast

  • Dax Raad: x.com/thdxr + thdxr.com
  • SST.dev
  • Rethinking the startup MVP: Building a competitive product.


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and CrabNebula for supporting the podcast.

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11 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

localfirst.fm
#8 – Pirijan Ketheswaran: Kinopio, Canvas-based tools, being a solo developer

The guest of this episode is Pirijan Ketheswaran, the creator of the Kinopio, a playful, canvas-based tool for thought. He is also the co-creator of the online IDE Glitch. This conversation will go trough his journey as a creative including his time at Fog Creek and later building Kinopio as a solo developer.


Mentioned in podcast

  • Pirijan Ketheswaran: x.com/pketh + pketh.org
  • Mastodon: @pirijan@c.im
  • kinopio.club
  • First Four Years of Glitch 
  • Kinopio: Building Offline
  • are.na/kinopio


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and CrabNebula for supporting the podcast.

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11 months ago
56 minutes

localfirst.fm
#7 – James Long: Actual Budget, Hybrid Logical Clocks & Absurd-SQL

The guest of this episode is James Long, the creator of local-first app called Actual Budget and the absurd-sql project which helped to pave the way to bring SQLite back to the browser. This conversation will explore his journey of building Actual Budget including implementing a syncing solution from scratch and expanding from an Electron app to mobile and the web while re-using most of the code. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • James Long: x.com/jlongster + jlongster.com
  • James Long: Where Have I Been?
  • Actual Budget on GitHub 
  • actualbudget.org
  • Hybrid Logical Clocks
  • Nodejs-mobile
  • absurd-sql


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and CrabNebula for supporting the podcast.

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1 year ago
1 hour 34 minutes

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#6 – Rasmus Andersson: Playbit, Software Quality, Data Models Tradeoffs

The guest of this episode is Rasmus Anderson, who helped to build many monumental products such as Spotify, Dropbox and Figma and is now working on Playbit, a local-first operating system built from scratch. 
This extended conversation will go deep on software quality, the tradeoffs of different data models and the importance of the web for modern applications. 

Mentioned in podcast

  • Rasmus Andersson: x.com/rsms + rsms.me
  • Playbit


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and CrabNebula for supporting the podcast.

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1 year ago
1 hour 43 minutes

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#5 – Kyle Mathews: Benefits of using a sync engine, personal local-first apps, ElectricSQL

The guest of this episode is Kyle Matthews, who, in the past, founded Gatsby JS and is currently delving into local-first software. 
In the conversation, Kyle shares his experiences in building some small-scale local-first apps for his personal use and discusses how the utilization of a data syncing engine liberates significant development time.

Mentioned in podcast

  • Kyle Mathews: x.com/kylemathews +  bricolage.io 
  • bricolage.io/some-notes-on-local-first-development
  • bricolage.io/build-notes-micro-apps-time-distribution
  • electric-sql


Links:

  •  Website: localfirst.fm
  • X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm
  • YouTube: youtube.com/@localfirstfm
  • Local-First Conf 2024

Thank you to Expo and CrabNebula for supporting the podcast.

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1 year ago
46 minutes

localfirst.fm
A podcast about local-first software development