In this episode, Samuel is joined by Mark and Ellie as they take a nostalgic trip back to the early 2000s, reflecting on what growing up felt like and how childhood expectations often collide with the truths of adult life.

From navigating independence to handling the immediate surprises of being an adult, they share stories highlighting how these experiences shape their shifting perspectives. Whether it’s learning to let people show you who they are, understanding that everyone reveals different sides of themselves, or the importance of having a strong support system, this conversation looks into the lessons that come with growing up.

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HOST: Sam Toye
WITH: Ayo (Mark) Obe & Ellie Otasowie