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Keep Optimising
Chloe Thomas
272 episodes
6 days ago
For 5 episodes at a time we focus in on one marketing method - maybe Email or SEO or Google Ads or Facebook Ads. In our weekly episodes, we go deep into a different area of the marketing method we’re focused on, with a guest selected because they are an expert in their field AND because they have a specific tactic or approach you NEED to know about. That means for the whole 5 episodes you’re getting ideas about ONE THING, and you can focus your optimisation time along with us on that one marketing method. - Current Mini-Series = SEO - Next Mini-Series = Marketplaces, including Amazon - Last Mini-Series = Google Ads Previous topics you can listen to right now: SEO, Email marketing, Black Friday, Facebook Ads, Marketing Foundations, Content Marketing, Organic Social Media, Google Ads, TikTok, & Improving Conversion Rates You can hear a new episode for free every Wednesday. Each episode lasts about 30-45 minutes and is audio only. AND at the end of each month we also have a Live Q&A webinar where you get to ask your questions of our guests. >> Sign up for the next one here: https://keepoptimising.com/webinar/ I look forward to helping you keep optimising your marketing very soon! Chloe Thomas, host of the show About our host: Chloe Thomas has been in marketing for over 15 years, she's the author of multiple best selling books on eCommerce and marketing, and the host of the award-winning UK top 5 marketing podcast, eCommerce MasterPlan. Join our email list: https://keepoptimising.com/
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For 5 episodes at a time we focus in on one marketing method - maybe Email or SEO or Google Ads or Facebook Ads. In our weekly episodes, we go deep into a different area of the marketing method we’re focused on, with a guest selected because they are an expert in their field AND because they have a specific tactic or approach you NEED to know about. That means for the whole 5 episodes you’re getting ideas about ONE THING, and you can focus your optimisation time along with us on that one marketing method. - Current Mini-Series = SEO - Next Mini-Series = Marketplaces, including Amazon - Last Mini-Series = Google Ads Previous topics you can listen to right now: SEO, Email marketing, Black Friday, Facebook Ads, Marketing Foundations, Content Marketing, Organic Social Media, Google Ads, TikTok, & Improving Conversion Rates You can hear a new episode for free every Wednesday. Each episode lasts about 30-45 minutes and is audio only. AND at the end of each month we also have a Live Q&A webinar where you get to ask your questions of our guests. >> Sign up for the next one here: https://keepoptimising.com/webinar/ I look forward to helping you keep optimising your marketing very soon! Chloe Thomas, host of the show About our host: Chloe Thomas has been in marketing for over 15 years, she's the author of multiple best selling books on eCommerce and marketing, and the host of the award-winning UK top 5 marketing podcast, eCommerce MasterPlan. Join our email list: https://keepoptimising.com/
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Keep Optimising
Marketplaces: How to Choose Channels and Grow Profits Strategically with Will Haire
6 days ago
37 minutes

Keep Optimising
SEO: The 3 Questions Every eCommerce Brand Should Be Asking with Dan Coleman
1 week ago
37 minutes

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SEO: How to Improve eCommerce SEO with a Content Quality Audit with Ian Ferguson
2 weeks ago
35 minutes

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SEO: How to Drive SEO Buy-In From Plan to Execution with Owain Lloyd-Williams

Getting buy-in for your SEO plans can often feel like navigating a maze, but we’re here to simplify that journey. The main takeaway from today’s discussion is that understanding the unique story and aspirations of your brand is crucial when you're trying to get approval for your SEO strategies. Whether you’re in a big enterprise or a smaller team, the tips we share can help you effectively communicate the value of your SEO initiatives.

In this episode, we speak with Owain Lloyd-Williams, an SEO expert with extensive experience working with diverse companies.

Owain highlights the need to align SEO work with business goals from day one. Many projects fail because SEO teams focus too much on rankings or traffic. But stakeholders want to see how SEO drives real outcomes—like sales, leads, or conversions. For eCommerce brands, that means tying SEO wins to revenue or product performance. Set clear KPIs early, build reports that show impact, and update them regularly to keep buy-in strong.

He also suggests working across silos by offering value and support—not just making demands. Understand what each team cares about and show how SEO can help them win. In eCommerce, this could mean helping product pages convert better or reducing bounce rates with smarter content.

Lastly, Owain advises reviewing and updating these before creating new material. Older content often has authority and just needs a few tweaks to perform again. This is a fast, cost-effective way to drive traffic and meet SEO goals. It's especially useful when budgets or developer time are tight.

Takeaways:

  • Understanding your brand's story and unique selling proposition is key for effective SEO.
  • Data-driven decisions are essential for gaining buy-in from stakeholders in SEO projects.
  • Breaking down silos within an organization fosters collaboration and enhances SEO project success.
  • Establish clear reporting systems to prove the value of SEO initiatives to stakeholders.
  • Engaging stakeholders early and often is crucial for securing support for SEO strategies.
  • Utilizing modern SEO tools can help streamline processes and encourage team involvement in projects.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/266

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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3 weeks ago
37 minutes

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SEO: Using TikTok Data to Create High-Impact Content with Christine Corbin

Using TikTok data to create trending on-site content is a game changer for eCommerce brands. In this episode, Christine Corbin shows us how to use TikTok’s Creator Search Insights tool to find keyword gold—no business account needed. She shares how to spot content gaps, build timely collection pages, and drive fast SEO wins. If you want to boost traffic by aligning with trends, this one’s for you.

The intersection of TikTok trends and SEO is a hot topic. This episode gets into how brands can harness this connection to drive online traffic. Christine guides us through the practical steps of using TikTok's Creator Search Insights tool, which offers a wealth of keyword data that can inform content creation strategies. This allows brands to identify trending topics even before they hit peak popularity, giving them an edge in the competitive digital landscape.

We also explore the implications of producing timely content. While traditional SEO focuses on long-term strategies, there's now a compelling case for short-term, trend-based content. Christine explains how this approach not only aligns with current consumer behaviors but also encourages brands to maintain a dynamic presence online. It's also important to create engaging collection pages and blog posts that leverage trending keywords, which can significantly enhance search visibility and user engagement.

The conversation doesn't shy away from the challenges brands face when integrating these tactics. We address the necessity of ensuring that any trend-based content aligns with the brand’s identity and resonates with its target audience. This episode serves as a guide for marketers looking to innovate their SEO strategies by tapping into social media trends, showcasing the potential for rapid growth and increased visibility through well-executed, timely content.

Takeaways:

  • Utilizing TikTok's Creator Search Insights tool can unlock invaluable data for SEO strategies.
  • Short-term trends can drive immediate traffic to your site, offering quick wins for brands.
  • Creating themed collection pages can effectively capitalize on trending topics and keywords.
  • The key to successful SEO is not just new content creation but also refreshing existing content.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/265

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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1 month ago
32 minutes

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SEO: ChatGPT + Shopify... How can you capitalise on AI Shopping? with Sam Wright, Blink

Understanding the rapidly evolving landscape of SEO is more crucial than ever, especially with the introduction of ChatGPT's shopping functionality. In this episode, we explore how the integration of the buy button in ChatGPT creates a new product discovery channel, fundamentally changing how brands will need to approach their data and optimization strategies. Our guest, SEO expert Sam Wright, emphasizes that the structure of your product data will dictate your success in this decentralized marketplace. Whether you're on Shopify or another platform, the strategies we discuss will help you prepare for this shift and boost your eCommerce performance.

The episode unpacks the pivotal role that product data plays in the eCommerce landscape. Sam emphasizes the importance of organizing product attributes to enhance visibility and discoverability across various platforms, especially with the emergence of AI shopping functionalities like those introduced by ChatGPT and Shopify. Optimizing product data for AI systems not only improves SEO but also enhances user experience on eCommerce sites. This is why brands should prioritize their data structure to harness the full potential of emerging technologies.

The dialogue shifts to the transformative impact of ChatGPT's integration with Shopify, which introduces a new product discovery channel that brands cannot afford to ignore. Sam articulates that this is not just about SEO; it's about evolving the way brands think about their online presence. Clear taxonomy, accurate schema markup, and well-structured content are not just SEO best practices; they are vital for ensuring that AI systems can effectively interpret and relay product information.

Wrapping up, the episode highlights actionable strategies for brands to adapt to the new eCommerce reality shaped by AI. Sam provides practical steps, such as focusing on product data management and ensuring that content is both human-readable and machine-friendly. This episode not only prepares brands for the immediate challenges posed by AI in eCommerce but also reinforces the foundational practices of SEO that will continue to drive success.

Takeaways:

  • Understanding your product data is key; think like a data engineer for success.
  • Successful brands will prioritize structured data to enhance their visibility and performance.
  • The buy button in ChatGPT creates a new product discovery channel that can revolutionize eCommerce.
  • Optimizing for ChatGPT involves using clear product data and maintaining good SEO practices.
  • Regularly review and update all content to ensure consistency across your site for AI utilization.
  • The future of SEO leans heavily on product data management, blending marketing and technical strategies.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/264

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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1 month ago
27 minutes

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Google Ads: The Ultimate Guide to Six-Figure Campaigns with Issy Johnson, Stellar Search

Managing a six-figure budget for Google Ads can be a game changer for your marketing strategy. In this episode with Google Ads expert Issy Johnson, we dive into effective strategies for maximizing your investment, focusing on the importance of creative, campaign diversity, and a test-and-learn mindset. We also discuss how to properly manage scaling budgets. Whether you're currently navigating a hefty budget or just curious about what it entails, we’ll share valuable insights that can help you optimise your Google Ads performance.

One of the standout themes in our conversation is the need for a more granular approach when scaling budgets. Instead of merely increasing existing campaigns, it's important to explore new campaign types and strategies, like Performance Max, which allows advertisers to diversify their approach and maximize their return on investment. Issy emphasizes that as budgets grow, so does the complexity of managing those campaigns, demanding a constant test-and-learn mindset to ensure that every dollar is effectively spent.

Another key aspect we discuss is the importance of creative in Google Ads. With larger budgets, the need for diverse and compelling ad creatives becomes even more pronounced. Issy explains how creative testing and optimization should be a continuous process, leveraging AI tools to generate new ideas and keep the content fresh.

We also touch on the significance of proper attribution and conversion tracking, especially when substantial funds are involved. Issy advocates for a robust understanding of how different marketing channels interact, suggesting that marketers look beyond Google Ads for comprehensive performance insights. This episode is packed with actionable insights, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to optimize their Google Ads strategy, particularly when working with six-figure budgets.

Takeaways:

  • When managing six-figure Google Ads budgets, having a diverse range of campaigns is vital for success.
  • It's essential to continuously test and reflect on ad performance every two weeks to optimize strategies effectively.
  • Attribution becomes increasingly important with larger budgets; consider using Marketing Mix Modeling for comprehensive insights.
  • Scaling budgets requires a strategic approach; simply increasing spend without a plan often leads to poor campaign performance.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/263

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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1 month ago
28 minutes

Keep Optimising
Google Ads: Advanced Tips for Precision Conversion Tracking and Optimisation with Michael Cole, Everflow

Precision tracking and reporting in Google Ads is key to effectively optimising your campaigns and driving meaningful sales. In today’s episode, we dive into how understanding different buyer personas can significantly enhance your advertising strategy. We break down the importance of providing accurate attribution data to the Google Ads platform, which allows it to optimise for high-value customers rather than just any lead. Our guest, Michael Cole, shares insights from his experience at Everflow, where they successfully implemented these strategies to see a remarkable increase in quality leads.

Precision tracking and reporting in Google Ads is crucial for driving sales and maximizing ROI. Michael emphasizes that merely relying on Google’s native tracking can lead marketers astray, as the platform often attributes conversions based on a variety of factors that may not reflect the actual effectiveness of an ad. He suggests that using a third-party tool allows marketers to capture more accurate attribution data, enabling them to focus on high-value customers and optimise their ads accordingly. By sharing specific buyer behaviors and conversion metrics back to Google, advertisers can steer the algorithm towards what truly matters: identifying and targeting users who are likely to return for repeat purchases, thereby nurturing long-term customer relationships.

We also explore the differing types of buyers and how understanding their behaviors can inform ad strategies. Michael shares insights from his own experience, showing how their approach led to a significant increase in quality leads, even in the competitive landscape of SaaS marketing. He outlines the need for businesses to adapt their tracking methods to capture not just immediate purchases but also long-term customer engagement, which can drastically change the effectiveness of ad campaigns.

As we wrap up, Michael provides valuable insider tips on maximising Google Ads performance, encouraging listeners to prioritize understanding their customer data and refining their attribution models. Ultimately, the episode serves as a guide for marketers looking to refine their Google Ads strategies by focusing on precision tracking and effective reporting, ensuring that they can make informed decisions that lead to sustained growth and profitability.

Takeaways:

  • Understanding different buyer types is crucial for effective Google Ads marketing strategies.
  • Utilizing third-party tools can significantly enhance the precision of your Google Ads tracking.
  • It's essential to provide accurate conversion data back to Google Ads for optimal ad performance.
  • Ad platforms often have different incentives than advertisers, making independent data crucial for success.
  • Treat your customers differently based on their buying behavior to foster long-term relationships.
  • Optimising Google Ads is a continuous process that requires regular adjustments and data analysis.

Episode sponsored by Everflow. To find out how Everflow can help your brand, visit everflow.io .

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/262

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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1 month ago
36 minutes

Keep Optimising
Google Ads: Optimising Your Shopping Feed for Maximum Impact with Danny Ireland, Launch

If you're looking to ramp up your Google Ads game, optimising your shopping feed is a crucial step you shouldn't overlook. In this episode with Danny Ireland, we dive deep into how feeding the algorithm as much data as possible can significantly enhance your ad performance. Whether you're new to the game or a seasoned pro, this episode is packed with actionable tips that can help you refine your approach to Google Ads and ultimately drive better results for your business.

In this episode, we take a closer look at the potential of Google Ads through the lens of feed optimisation. It's a topic that often gets overlooked in the broader discussion of eCommerce marketing strategies. Danny breaks down the mechanics of product feed optimisation, explaining how crucial it is to enhance the data being fed into Google Merchant Center.

The discussion focuses on the importance of data in driving performance, with Danny stressing that more data leads to better targeting and optimisation. He navigates through the various methods of improving your product feed, including the use of third-party tools for better data management.

This episode is packed with actionable insights for marketers who want to ensure their product listings are not just seen but also convert effectively in an increasingly competitive environment. It also touches on future trends in digital marketing, particularly how emerging technologies like AI might influence feed optimisation strategies moving forward.

This is a must-listen for anyone serious about eCommerce growth.

Takeaways:

  • Feeding the algorithm with extensive data is crucial for effective Google Shopping campaigns.
  • To optimise your eCommerce feed, include more keywords and detailed attributes like color and material.
  • Using a reliable feed management tool can significantly enhance how you manage and optimize your product data.
  • The quality of your Google Shopping feed directly influences the success of your ads and overall campaign performance.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/261

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com

Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor

**** Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify. Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor
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2 months ago
32 minutes

Keep Optimising
Google Ads: Audience Targeting Strategies for eCommerce Brands with Jyll Saskin Gales

Your customer list is your most powerful asset when it comes to Google Ads, and sharing that information with Google unlocks a wealth of opportunities for effective audience targeting. In this episode, we dive deep into the often-overlooked world of audience targeting, exploring how it can significantly enhance your advertising strategy.

We’ve got Jyll Saskin Gales, a Google Ads expert and author, sharing her insights and experience, including how your customer data can inform smart bidding algorithms and optimize your campaigns.

Audience targeting in Google Ads is a topic that often doesn't get the attention it deserves, yet it holds immense potential for eCommerce businesses looking to optimise their ad performance. A key takeaway from our conversation with Jyll is the impact of sharing your customer list with Google. This list is not just a collection of emails; it represents a powerful asset that informs Google's bidding algorithms and unlocks features like optimised targeting. Jyll emphasizes that for eCommerce retailers leveraging this customer data can significantly enhance ad effectiveness.

Transitioning into practical applications, Jyll shares real-world examples of how businesses can utilize Google’s audience targeting capabilities, illustrating that understanding who your target audience is can lead to better engagement and conversion rates. The conversation also touches on the importance of keeping your customer lists updated and utilizing Google’s automation features to stay competitive. By the end of the episode, listeners are equipped with not only theoretical knowledge but also practical tips that can be immediately implemented to boost their Google Ads campaigns.

Whether you are a small business or a larger retailer, this episode is packed with insights that can drive your marketing efforts forward.

Takeaways:

  • Your customer list is an invaluable asset that can greatly enhance your Google Ads campaigns.
  • Sharing your customer list with Google unlocks features that can optimise bidding and targeting strategies.
  • Audience targeting is essential for eCommerce success, especially with Google Ads evolving rapidly.
  • Utilizing Google's audience segments can help you reach specific demographics and interests effectively.
  • Always keep your customer data updated to maximize the potential of automated targeting in Google Ads.
  • Understanding how to leverage Google audiences will give you a competitive edge over your rivals.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/260

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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**** Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify. Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor
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2 months ago
28 minutes

Keep Optimising
Google Ads: The 5 Dos and 5 Don'ts of PMax Optimisation with Becky Hopkin and Jonny Hyams

If you're looking to up your game with Google Ads, you're in the right place. We're diving deep into the world of Performance Max, or PMAX, and sharing the five essential dos and five key don’ts for optimising your campaigns. Understanding what you aim to achieve with your campaign is crucial before you even set your bid strategy. With insights from Google Ads experts Becky Hopkin and Johnny Hyams, we'll equip you with practical tips to fill your optimisation to-do list for months to come.

Quick terminology update from Becky: "We refer to something called “Search Max” a few times in the episode. Google decided to rebrand it to “AI Max for Search” just after we recorded 🙄 so when you hear us say Search Max, please know it’s the same thing!"

The 5 Dos of PMax Optimisation

  1. Understand channel performance: PMax campaigns run across various Google channels, so it's important to analyze performance on each to optimise effectively. Use scripts to get data on channel performance and understand where your budget is going.
  2. Test feed-only PMax: To prioritize shopping and limit placements, create PMax campaigns using only a product feed and no other assets. This gives you more control and focuses spend on shopping, which often performs best for eCommerce.
  3. Use high-quality assets: If you include images, videos, headlines, and descriptions, ensure they are high quality and relevant. All creatives should work well together, and asset groups should be used to maintain coherence.
  4. Use negative keywords: Add negative keywords to your PMax campaigns to refine targeting and prevent irrelevant traffic. Google now allows adding negative keywords at the campaign level, which gives you greater control.
  5. Align bid strategy with objectives: Choose the right bid strategy and set appropriate targets to achieve your campaign goals.

The 5 Don'ts of PMax Optimisation

  1. Only use PMax campaigns: Don't rely solely on PMax; continue to use other campaign types like search, remarketing, and display for better control and targeting.
  2. Bid on your brand name in PMax: Exclude your brand name from PMax campaigns to avoid paying higher costs per click, and use separate search campaigns for brand terms.
  3. Let campaigns be limited by budget: If possible, avoid budget limitations, and adjust targets or increase budgets to maximize potential.
  4. Overly segment campaigns: Avoid excessive segmentation, as PMax needs sufficient conversions to optimise effectively.
  5. Leave final URL expansion on: Turn off the final URL expansion setting to control which pages users land on and prevent traffic from going to irrelevant pages.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/259

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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**** Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify. Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor
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2 months ago
33 minutes

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Email & SMS: Why SMS Should Be Your Next Marketing Move with Naomi Davies

SMS is a very personal channel that goes directly to your phone, making it an essential part of your marketing strategy. In this episode, we dive into how to effectively integrate SMS into your email marketing plans, addressing a common challenge many businesses face: knowing they should use SMS but not knowing how to start. I chat with Naomi Davis, an expert in the field, who shares actionable insights on the types of campaigns to send and the importance of messaging that provides real value.

Integrating SMS into your email marketing strategy is essential for enhancing customer engagement. The episode dives into the nuances of this integration with expert Naomi Davis, who emphasizes that SMS is a highly personal channel. Unlike emails, which can get lost in an inbox, SMS messages land directly on the recipient's home screen, making them more immediate and impactful. By considering the timing and content of your SMS campaigns in relation to your email efforts, you can create a seamless customer journey that maximizes engagement and conversion rates.

The conversation shifts to practical tips for executing SMS campaigns effectively. Naomi advises listeners to start by collecting SMS consent properly and utilizing that list from the get-go. She suggests implementing a welcome series that immediately engages new subscribers, providing them with incentives and offers tailored to their interests. The discussion covers how to avoid common pitfalls, such as over-segmenting or solely relying on discounts in SMS communications. Instead, Naomi encourages brands to explore a diverse range of messaging strategies to keep their audience engaged without diluting their brand value.

Towards the end, Naomi shares insights on measuring the effectiveness of SMS alongside email marketing. She highlights the importance of analyzing customer behaviors across both channels to optimize future communications. The episode wraps up with actionable advice on maintaining a balanced cadence of messaging, ensuring that customers feel valued. By combining the storytelling power of email with the immediacy of SMS, brands can foster stronger relationships with their audience and drive better marketing results.

This episode is a goldmine for marketers looking to elevate their strategies and connect with customers on a more personal level.

Takeaways:

  • Integrating SMS in email marketing demands a unique approach tailored to the audience.
  • SMS is a personal communication channel and should be treated with respect and value.
  • Sending a prompt welcome message after collecting SMS consent is crucial for engagement.
  • To optimize your SMS strategy, segment your audience based on behavior and engagement metrics.
  • Timing is key; consider sending SMS after an email to enhance engagement rates effectively.
  • Avoid over-relying on discounts in SMS campaigns to maintain brand value and customer loyalty.

Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/258

Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

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**** Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify. Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor
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2 months ago
26 minutes

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Email: Increase Loyalty to Grow CLV & Profits with Anna Frapwell, Neon Digital Clicks

Building customer loyalty isn’t just a nice-to-have; it’s essential for any brand looking to thrive. We dive deep into the heart of loyalty programs in this episode, emphasizing that true engagement stems from a genuine understanding of your customers. Anna Frapwell shares her expertise on how to personalize communications and enhance customer relationships by asking the right questions.

Establishing customer loyalty in today’s competitive market hinges on one critical aspect: understanding your customers deeply. It's important to engage customers through direct communication and gather insights to inform marketing strategies. Anna highlights that without this foundational understanding, loyalty programs risk becoming superficial and ineffective.

We also dive into actionable strategies that brands can implement to foster loyalty.

Learn how to enhance your understanding of customer preferences through data collection methods such as surveys and interactive quizzes. These tactics not only improve engagement; they also provide vital information that helps personalize marketing efforts. Anna emphasizes that the key to successful loyalty initiatives lies in creating a genuine connection with customers, ensuring they feel valued and understood.

As we wrapped up our conversation, it became clear that true customer loyalty is built on trust and engagement rather than discounts or promotions. Brands that prioritize understanding their customers will not only increase retention rates but will also see improvements in overall profitability. The future of marketing is about forging meaningful relationships and creating personalized experiences that resonate with customers. By effectively leveraging insights, brands can position themselves for long-term success in the eCommerce space.

Takeaways:

  • Understanding your customer deeply is essential for building authentic loyalty programs that engage effectively.
  • If brands fail to grasp what value means to their customers, loyalty efforts will likely fall flat and lack retention.
  • Engaging with customers through surveys and quizzes can significantly improve loyalty and enhance communication strategies.
  • Utilizing tools like Klaviyo allows brands to gather valuable insights to tailor their marketing efforts and foster loyalty.
  • Personalization in email and SMS marketing is crucial; it turns potential spam into meaningful engagement for customers.
  • A thoughtful approach to customer data collection helps avoid messy databases and ensures targeted marketing efforts.

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3 months ago
31 minutes

Keep Optimising
Email & SMS: Data-Driven Welcome Campaigns—Insights from Samantha Burmeister

Samantha Burmeister joins us to dive into the world of email welcome campaigns, emphasizing that the key takeaway is to gather valuable data about your audience. Understanding not just who buys, but also who doesn't, allows us to make informed marketing decisions moving forward. Samantha shares insights on how to start these campaigns right, the balance between gaining insights and making sales, and the significance of personalization in today’s marketing landscape.

The dialogue begins with a crucial insight: the primary aim of a welcome sequence should be to gather data about new subscribers, which can inform future marketing strategies. Samantha emphasizes that understanding why some subscribers choose not to purchase is just as important as knowing who does buy. This data-driven approach enables marketers to fine-tune their strategies, ensuring that they invest in the right channels and messages moving forward.

As we explore the structure of an effective welcome campaign, Samantha outlines key components that should be included in the initial emails. She advocates for providing immediate value to subscribers, which encourages prompt engagement. The importance of follow-up emails is also highlighted. By using data from initial interactions, marketers can create segments within their audience, delivering personalized content that speaks directly to each group’s needs and preferences.

Towards the end of the episode, the conversation shifts to the changing landscape of consumer behavior. Samantha notes that in times of uncertainty, consumers are more cautious with their spending, which necessitates a more personalized and conversational approach in email marketing. By focusing on the emotional transformations that products can provide, rather than just the products themselves, brands can create deeper connections with their audience.

This episode provides valuable insights into developing effective email welcome campaigns that not only drive sales but also build lasting customer relationships.

Takeaways:

  • A successful welcome email sequence should prioritize understanding customer data over immediate sales.
  • Tracking who buys and who doesn't helps in allocating marketing resources effectively for future campaigns.
  • The sequence begins with the opt-in process, making it essential to craft a compelling opt-in page.
  • Personalization in marketing emails leads to higher conversion rates, especially during uncertain times.

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3 months ago
30 minutes

Keep Optimising
Email: Popups 101: How to Craft the Perfect Signup Experience with Shaan Arora

Maximising email sign-ups is the name of the game in our latest chat. We dive deep into the effectiveness of using mystery offers over straightforward discounts, revealing how this simple tweak can significantly boost opt-in rates. I recently tested this with a luxury home brand, and we saw a jump from 12% to 18% in email sign-ups, proving that a little mystery goes a long way. We also explore the importance of running A/B tests on pop-ups, focusing on elements like graphics and copy to see what resonates best with your audience. By the end, you'll be armed with practical strategies to enhance your email marketing efforts and truly optimise your approach moving forward.

This insightful episode brings to light the often-overlooked power of email pop-ups in the eCommerce landscape. Shaan Arora, the founder of Alia, joins the conversation to shed light on how effective pop-ups can significantly enhance email sign-up rates and, ultimately, sales. He shares a recent success story where a simple pivot from standard discount offers to a mystery offer resulted in a remarkable increase in email opt-ins, demonstrating the effectiveness of curiosity-driven engagement. Sian's insights challenge the conventional wisdom that bigger discounts always lead to better results, revealing that the way an offer is presented can have a profound impact on customer behavior.

Listeners are guided through the essential components of crafting compelling pop-ups, with Sian emphasizing the need for A/B testing to optimize every element. He discusses the common pitfalls brands face, such as neglecting the testing process or failing to update their pop-up designs. Through various examples, he illustrates how testing different graphics, copy, and offers can uncover hidden opportunities to boost sign-up rates and, by extension, sales. The episode underscores the idea that brands should approach pop-up strategies with the same level of optimization and analysis they apply to other marketing channels.

The conversation also touches on the timing and context of pop-up displays, suggesting that brands should aim to present pop-ups within the first 10 seconds of a user’s visit to capitalize on their initial interest. Sian advocates for multi-stage pop-ups that engage users with relevant questions before asking for their email addresses, noting that this technique can lead to higher conversion rates. By the end of the episode, listeners are equipped with actionable strategies to refine their email pop-up tactics, ensuring they can effectively grow their email lists and enhance their overall marketing performance.

Takeaways:

  • Using mystery offers instead of fixed percentage discounts can significantly boost email opt-in rates.
  • It's essential to test various elements of your pop-ups, like graphics and copy, to optimize performance.
  • Running multi-stage pop-ups has shown to increase user commitment and improve signup rates effectively.
  • Brands often overlook the importance of ongoing A/B testing for their pop-up strategies and should treat them similarly to ads.
  • Zero party data questions can enhance engagement by tailoring the pop-up experience to customer interests.
  • Timing is crucial; displaying pop-ups within the first 10 seconds of page load is generally recommended for optimal engagement.

Chapters:

  • 01:22 - Introduction to Email Marketing and Popup Strategies
  • 11:30 - Multistage Pop-Ups and Best Practices
  • 18:18 - Testing Offers and Copy Improvements in Marketing
  • 22:26 - Transitioning from Popup Strategies to Insider Tips on Email Marketing
  • 24:25 - The Impact of AI on Marketing

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3 months ago
29 minutes

Keep Optimising
Email & SMS: Your Customer Retention Playbook with George Kapernaros, Yocto

Building a solid retention marketing playbook starts with understanding that your best ideas come from your customers, not from free templates or competitor research. In this episode, we dive deep into the importance of empathy in retention marketing and how it can significantly impact customer loyalty and revenue.

In this engaging episode, we sit down with George Kapernaros, a retention marketing guru from Yocto, who brings a wealth of experience in helping brands enhance their customer retention strategies. The discussion kicks off with a critical examination of why understanding customer needs is the cornerstone of effective retention marketing. George emphasizes that the best insights do not come from generic research or competitor analysis but rather from directly engaging with customers to understand their experiences.

He also shares statistics that highlight the importance of timely and relevant communication with customers. George advocates for a shift away from treating retention marketing as a series of one-off campaigns. Instead, he promotes the idea of creating comprehensive, empathetic, and multi-faceted customer journeys. By doing so, brands can not only improve retention rates but also enhance customer satisfaction and lifetime value.

The conversation also touches on practical tools and methodologies that marketers can use to elevate their retention efforts. George introduces innovative technologies that facilitate interactive customer engagement, making it easier for brands to connect with their audiences meaningfully. He encourages marketers to tap into their internal knowledge and leverage customer feedback as a continuous source of insight.

This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the evolving landscape of retention marketing and the importance of empathy, data-driven strategies, and customer engagement in fostering sustained business success.

Takeaways:

  • Your best ideas for retention marketing will come from understanding your customers, not from templates or competitor research.
  • To impact customer retention, focus on creating empathetic messages that align with the customer journey rather than following a company calendar.
  • Retention marketing should prioritize long-term customer understanding over short-term campaigns; it's essential to stay relevant after the sale.
  • A successful retention strategy relies on collecting customer data to tailor messaging that resonates with their unique journeys and needs.

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3 months ago
34 minutes

Keep Optimising
Partnerships: Tapping into Experts to Maximise Conversions with Eric Sheinkop

Partnerships can be a game changer when it comes to boosting your conversion rates, and today we're diving deep into how to leverage experts to make that happen. We’ll be unpacking insights from Eric Sheinkop, co-founder of The Desire Company, who shares his unique approach to connecting brands with knowledgeable professionals rather than influencers or celebrities.

The conversation begins with a critical look at the declining effectiveness of celebrity endorsements, as 67% of consumers report a lack of trust in such marketing tactics. Eric emphasizes that in a world where consumers are inundated with advertising, the need for authentic voices has never been greater. By collaborating with experts, brands can provide valuable information that resonates with potential buyers, ultimately driving conversions and sales.

Listeners will gain practical insights into how to effectively implement expert-driven marketing strategies. Eric offers valuable tips on identifying the right experts for specific product categories and leveraging their knowledge to address consumer questions and concerns.

Overall, this episode serves as a crucial resource for brands looking to enhance their marketing efforts by embracing expert partnerships and optimizing their conversion strategies.

Takeaways:

  • Leveraging expert partnerships can lead to significant increases in conversion rates and customer trust by educating consumers effectively.
  • Using professionals from diverse fields, such as chefs or veterinarians, can enhance the authenticity of your marketing content.
  • Expert-driven content performs better in lower funnel marketing, addressing consumer doubts and increasing purchase confidence.
  • Investing in expert partnerships not only aids conversion but also enhances the overall customer experience on retail websites.

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3 months ago
31 minutes

Keep Optimising
Affiliate Marketing: 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts for getting Started with Kelly Morrison

Starting an affiliate program can be a game changer for your business, and in this episode, we dive into the essential do's and don'ts to get it right the first time. Our guest, Kelly Morrison, shares her expertise on defining clear goals and expectations to kick things off effectively. Tune in for practical insights that will help you launch a successful affiliate program.

In our conversation with Kelly, an affiliate marketing expert, we dive deep into the essential do's and don'ts of launching your affiliate program. She emphasizes the importance of defining clear goals and expectations right from the get-go. Knowing what you want to achieve—whether it's brand visibility, increased sales, or building relationships—will set the stage for your program's success.

She stresses that quality is more important than quantity when it comes to selecting affiliates; it's better to have a handful of engaged partners than a large group who may not resonate with your brand. Furthermore, providing your affiliates with comprehensive marketing materials and support is crucial for enabling them to promote effectively.

As we get further into the conversation, we explore the critical need for data-driven decision-making. Tracking performance metrics allows you to understand what's working and what needs adjustment. Kelly shares her insights on maintaining open lines of communication with your affiliates, which can significantly enhance their motivation and effectiveness. The episode wraps up with a list of pitfalls to avoid, including neglecting your affiliates and ignoring compliance issues.

This thorough discussion equips listeners with the knowledge to not only start their affiliate program but to optimize it for lasting success.

Takeaways:

  • Tracking and measuring performance data is essential for driving decisions in your affiliate program.
  • Define clear goals for your affiliate program to guide your setup and management effectively.
  • Choosing the right affiliates is more important than having a large number of them.
  • Provide affiliates with comprehensive marketing materials to ensure they can promote effectively.

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4 months ago
24 minutes

Keep Optimising
Affiliate Marketing: 5 Steps to Growing your Existing Program with Red Barrington

Improving your affiliate marketing performance can feel like a daunting task, but we're breaking it down into five manageable steps that can really make a difference. So, let's get started on leveling up your affiliate marketing game!

In our latest discussion, we break down five key steps to elevate your affiliate marketing strategy.

  1. First, we emphasize reviewing your publisher mix to ensure you’re targeting all segments of your audience effectively. This means utilizing tools available in your affiliate networks to identify any gaps in your current strategy.
  2. The second step focuses on identifying low-hanging fruit—those affiliates who drive traffic but yield low sales. By reaching out to these partners, you can often find ways to enhance their promotional efforts.
  3. Our third step is all about communication. We stress the importance of nurturing relationships with your affiliates through consistent and tailored messaging. This keeps your brand top of mind and fosters collaboration.
  4. The fourth step encourages attending networking events and engaging in educational opportunities. The affiliate marketing space is fast-paced, and staying informed about the latest trends and best practices is crucial for success.
  5. Finally, we wrap up with a discussion on the importance of monitoring industry trends, such as card-linked offers and the rise of brand partnerships, which can provide new avenues for growth.

By following these steps, you can position your affiliate program for greater success and profitability.

Takeaways:

  • Your contact list is essential in affiliate marketing, make sure it's comprehensive.
  • Identifying gaps in your publisher mix is crucial to optimizing affiliate performance.
  • Maintaining regular communication with affiliates can significantly enhance your marketing effectiveness.
  • Networking and continuous education are vital for staying ahead in the affiliate marketing game.

Chapters:

  • 03:09 - Optimizing Your Affiliate Marketing Channel
  • 12:51 - Networking and Education in Affiliate Marketing
  • 17:40 - Optimizing Your Affiliate Program
  • 24:26 - Looking to the Future of Affiliate Marketing

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4 months ago
29 minutes

Keep Optimising
Influencers: Meta Ads + Influencers = Success, with Sam Thompsett, Genie Goals

Sam Thompsett is part of the team at award-winning marketing agency Genie Goals, who deliver all sorts of partnership marketing and advertising activity for eCommerce brands like Mamas and Papas, Bird and Blend and Industville. 

 

In this episode, we discuss: 

  • The secret to turning influencer content into high-converting Meta ads 
  • Why whitelisting influencer ads outperforms traditional brand ads 
  • How to use affiliate and influencer partnerships to lower ad costs 
  • The three ad strategies that will boost your click-through rates 

 

Dive in: 

[03:12] Influencer content boosts paid social. 

[07:33] Influencer whitelisting boosts ad success. 

[12:17] Audience alignment for broader reach. 

[13:33] "Brand Awareness Strategy Essentials" 

[14:59] Insider Tips from Sam! 

 

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4 months ago
22 minutes

Keep Optimising
For 5 episodes at a time we focus in on one marketing method - maybe Email or SEO or Google Ads or Facebook Ads. In our weekly episodes, we go deep into a different area of the marketing method we’re focused on, with a guest selected because they are an expert in their field AND because they have a specific tactic or approach you NEED to know about. That means for the whole 5 episodes you’re getting ideas about ONE THING, and you can focus your optimisation time along with us on that one marketing method. - Current Mini-Series = SEO - Next Mini-Series = Marketplaces, including Amazon - Last Mini-Series = Google Ads Previous topics you can listen to right now: SEO, Email marketing, Black Friday, Facebook Ads, Marketing Foundations, Content Marketing, Organic Social Media, Google Ads, TikTok, & Improving Conversion Rates You can hear a new episode for free every Wednesday. Each episode lasts about 30-45 minutes and is audio only. AND at the end of each month we also have a Live Q&A webinar where you get to ask your questions of our guests. >> Sign up for the next one here: https://keepoptimising.com/webinar/ I look forward to helping you keep optimising your marketing very soon! Chloe Thomas, host of the show About our host: Chloe Thomas has been in marketing for over 15 years, she's the author of multiple best selling books on eCommerce and marketing, and the host of the award-winning UK top 5 marketing podcast, eCommerce MasterPlan. Join our email list: https://keepoptimising.com/